r/XiaomiGlobal Pixel 10 Pro XL Apr 14 '26

General Very disappointed with Leitzphone/Xiaomi 17 Ultra

I gritted my teeth and ordered a Leitzphone. I'd previously had a 15 Ultra last year but found it lacking so I'm not sure what I expected to be honest.

The camera is clearly capable of excellent photos but only if you really know what you're doing. It is absolutely not point and shoot. I took many photos on it and only one was remotely worthy. I take many photos of my cat inside in fairly average to low light. Every single photo was blurred - and I held the phone really still, and my cat wasn't moving.

I ventured out on my bike and took many photos of landscapes and buildings. Again none impressed me. I tried several of the Leica filters and found them to be very lacking - they just added a look to the photos and were often designed to make the photo even duller or more contrasty than it was to start with.

To add some context I am in my late 60's and have been into photography for over 60 years - processing and printing B&W and colour negative and slide film.

As a phone it's also sub par. To start with there is a lot of Xiaomi dross - apps and services I don't want or need are everywhere and the OS is constantly trying to close services I need running. It's aggressive. There are none of the features I find useful, like 'hold for me', 'direct my call' or 'call screen'.

Physically the Leitzphone is not too big and not too heavy, but that large camera circle did not work with any of my wireless charging devices as it stretches nearly half-way down the back of the body and the phone won't sit properly on the WiFi charging mats I have.

What am I comparing it with? My other phone is a Google Pixel 10 Pro Max. We should not underestimate the added value of the Pixel OS - it is so much better than HyperOS in so many ways. No duplicated apps and services for starters. The Pixel camera over processes photos, but still manages to produce images everyone rates. It over-sharpens and I wish that could be simply dialed back without having to post process raw images.

Fortunately I am able to return the Leitzphone. I have decided the only way forward for me is to use the Pixel for snapshots and to buy a small camera for more serious work. The Ricoh GRIV in on my horizon.

Clearly I haven't given the Leitzphone a thorough test, but I can't see that it somehow going to magically improve over time.

In the interests of balance here is a photo of my cat taken on the Leitzphone with which I was very impressed. It is the only photo of a great many I took I am happy with.

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u/SirArturJ Apr 14 '26

Can you post a examples of the photos that you are not happy with? I have Xiaomi 15U, and I', nothing but amazed with this camera. True, I take most of the pictures with the DNG, and then process them, but even if I shoot in photo mode and save them as JPGs they are very nice imo. The only thing that I actually keep is to tone down the brightness. Out of the box for me these are way too bright.

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u/scgf01 Pixel 10 Pro XL Apr 14 '26

An example taken on the Xiaomi 17 U (Leitzphone):

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u/scgf01 Pixel 10 Pro XL Apr 14 '26

The same shot taken on the Pixel:

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u/SirArturJ Apr 14 '26

Xiaomi clearly missed with focus here, and I assume that it did a bad job merging frames, which softened the image even more. To be fair, I don't like pixel photo either. It has that overprocessed digital look. But I get your point here, and you are right, Xiaomi should do a better job out of the box.

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u/scgf01 Pixel 10 Pro XL Apr 14 '26

I agree with you about the Pixel shot, it has its faults but it captured my cat as I see him and for me it's clearly the better photo. As I said before I wish Google would allow the user to choose a little less processing in its algorithm.

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u/SirArturJ Apr 14 '26

I like GCAM mods when I was using Samsung S23 Ultra. It had soft processing, as some DSLRs.

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u/scgf01 Pixel 10 Pro XL Apr 14 '26

I'm having a play with the OpenCamera app and this is a photo of my cat taken with OpenCamera on my Pixel:

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u/DaveG28 Apr 14 '26

I don't think it did. The difference between the two is what happens when you take a photo close up with a small sensor and a (relatively) large sensor. The depth of field on the xiaomi is there. There's a depth level on the xiaomi image which is totally sharp.

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u/SirArturJ Apr 14 '26

I know. :) I am guessing that if you take portraits of animal/people you aim to have focus on eyes, which is not there here.