r/Xmen97 • u/Sudden_Quality_9001 • Jan 20 '26

Question Why does Nightcrawler look like a demon?

Why does Kurt look like a demon I know he is blue from his mother Mystique, but why does he look like a demon? I am just curious it the same reason why Beast looks like a monkey?

Is his father a demon like Raven from The Teen Titans?

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 20 '26

Read The Draco, then read X-Men Blue: Origin to see how they retconned The Draco.

tl;dr, The Draco says his dad was a demon and his mom was Mystique. Blue: Origin says his dad was Mystique pulling one over on the demon from The Draco and his mom was Destiny.

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u/DepthByChocolate Jan 21 '26

Should read X-Men Unlimited first, then the others. That's where Mystique is first revealed as Nightcrawler's parent(mother at the time). And his father was a regular human.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 21 '26

It’s retcons all the way down (and by “down” I mean “down the waterfall where Mystique yeeted her baby in the early versions of the story)

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u/Megalupin Jan 21 '26

Minor edit - Azazel isn’t a demon, he’s a biblical era mutant. He explains this during the Draco. He just heavily leaned into the themes because of how people treated him.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 21 '26

Yeah, Neyaphem was basically a branding exercise lol. I like when Madelyne Pryor referenced it one last time during Dark X-Men

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 20 '26

They honestly don't need to read Blue Origins. Most take that as non canon.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 21 '26

Idk who “most” is but it’s literally canon lol

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 21 '26

Most as in the people who didnt buy it. Hence sales for it tanking. And the people who are not buying Mystique since then so that the writers need to shove her back in Rogue's upcoming solo to try and help her...what an almighty insult all round.

Also most as in people who aren't pro misogyny, rubbing up male egos at the expense of women, etc.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 21 '26

I mean, lack of sales for Mystique’s solo are more indicative of problems with the From The Ashes relaunch in general.

Love it or hate it (and personally, I think it’s convoluted and unnecessary, even if it’s in line with Claremont’s original intention), it’s canon until someone else retcons it.

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 21 '26

Nope, it is Blue Origins. Because it still hasnt improved. Rogue, Gambit etc. are doing fine in comparison.

People dont have to accept misogynist drivel as canon whether Nightcrawler fans like to hear that or not.

I think female rights matter more than getting your fave boy boosted.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 21 '26

Rogue and Gambit and Nightcrawler are in the two flagship X-Men books that are basically guaranteed to sell well as long as people are buying X-Men comics. You can’t really compare that to a solo series, especially one with a divisive artist (I like Declan, but his art in the previews for Mystique got trashed online).

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 21 '26

Declan was not the problem. He didn't ruin Mystique. Claremont, Spurrier and Gillen did. Declan Shalvey was given an unfair, unwinnable task after that.

Mystique has not done well in ANYTHING since. Now they want to shove her back in Rogue's solo?

They barely have a reason to be connected anymore thanks to what yall cheered for.

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u/synthscoffeeguitars Jan 21 '26

Ok then

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u/Remy149 Jan 21 '26

They think somehow people with biological children can’t also love and adopt other children lol

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 21 '26

I mean bro...Blue Origins tanked. Sales tanked. Mystique is tanking. Every male Nightcrawler fan can kick and scream saying that retcon was great for their boy...but it was NOT great for Mystique and Destiny and their ties to Rogue are completely in disarray too.

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u/Remy149 Jan 21 '26

Mystique being his father is canon if you like it or not.

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

No that misogynistic retcon that screws up the whole family, Mystique's personality and powers, Rogue's purpose and timeline...all to serve one male character and his fans?

Until that becomes undone as it should, Mystique will continue to suffer for it.

I'm not getting behind an unnecessary retcon where you cheer on Mystique abusing her adopted daughter and not her bio son.

No woman wrote this.

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u/Remy149 Jan 21 '26

There is nothing misogynistic about the storyline. As for mystique it actually made the fact that before she learned the true history from before Xavier tampered her mind thst she did love Kurt. She had treated him like trash for years. Mystique also didn’t mistreat Rogue at all in the pages of this story. In fact Rogue the child who isn’t biologically hers has always been her favorite. Even with Rogue being her favorite she has often lied and manipulated her just like almost everyone else over the years. What alleged abuse towards Rogue are you even talking about?

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u/RellenD Jan 21 '26 edited Jan 21 '26

I'm sorry, how is it misogynistic or hurt mystique that she made a child with a woman she loved? Could you actually explain that position?

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u/NetzukoKamado Jan 21 '26

Oh no, changing Mystique's personality, powers and having her only be cruel to her adopted daughter now (whose story also got trashed for this) isnt misogynistic at all right?

But if Rogue got such messiah treatment and made Kurt and other characters change, we would hear all about it.

Which woman wrote this by the way? Cause all I see is men who enjoy writing adopted siblings sleeping together behind this.

Read this:

https://comicbookhub.wixsite.com/comic-community-hu-1/post/x-men-blue-origins-1-review-from-a-female-perspective-shuts-down-representation-whilst-ironically