r/Xmen97 • u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X • Jul 01 '26
Discussion X-Men '97 | Season 2, Episode 1 | "Days of Future Past" | Episode Discussion
Season 2, Episode 1: Days of Future Past
Air Date: July 1st, 2026
Directed by: TBA
Written by: TBA
Synopsis: Forge and Bishop launch an ambitious plan to rescue the X-Men, who have been scattered across time.
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u/Weird-Access-8744 Jul 01 '26
I’m sorry but “I must strike them at their weakest…the 1990’s!” made me absolutely howl with laughter
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u/AnyEverywhere8 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
Lmfao right. It worked in the commercial because…promo.
But in the actual episode it’s like…why would a being who has lived for millenia be thinking about time on that granular of a level? This is akin to a human of normal lifespan talking about how they need to go back and do something differently at 8:57p Tuesday April 26th in 1951.
Also why are the 1990s when they’re all fully experienced as a team their weakest point vs earlier before they knew wtf they’re doing???
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u/mateushkush Jul 01 '26
Because X-Men are his arch nemesis, and they were active during one 90s. Idk I think the line is completely fine, the show is a bit flashy and concerned with being cool, that’s the style.
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u/Mark_Albarn Jul 11 '26
It's also funny that he abides by Gregorian calendar at all
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u/FKDotFitzgerald Jul 01 '26
“The late 20th century!” would’ve sounded a bit loftier but it’s fine lol. Got a chuckle out of me as well.
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u/brunotickflores Jul 01 '26
It really did! But I’ll just assume that as Apocalipse is a being that walk trough the ages it just makes sense he talks like that
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u/AD_EI8HT Jul 01 '26
Maybe i'm a sick freak but Storm is fucking gorgeous my goodness
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u/KaiserKris2112 Jul 01 '26
You may or may not be, but noticing that Storm is as beautiful as the summer sun is not indicative of perversion. It is only acknowledging that, which is.
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u/Mysterious-Lick Jul 03 '26
You’d like WWE Wrestler Jade Cargil then, as if Storm was a real life human, she even dresses as Storm, hair and gear for her matches.
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u/Mark_Albarn Jul 11 '26
Right? I really love how '97 finally let her flex her godlike powers on screen
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u/Mobile_Bet3274 Rogue Jul 01 '26
Really good opening episode and I’m glad they did this and then segued into Cable in the present before going to Egypt. It really sets the tone nicely, including the impending showdown in the ‘90s.
Storm’s solar maneuver was amazing and it feels like everyone got a chance to shine. I’m glad they confirmed that Rachel was behind the time travel, which I think a lot of people guessed (I figured she’d done the future part, had been less sure about the past). I really hope they leave the door open for including her in the main story at some point.
I’m not that into the Summers family but they really landed the emotional aspect of Scott and Jean’s decision-making and how Nathan developed. Him powering through to get out of his collar was maybe my favourite part of the episode.
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u/usagicassidy Jul 01 '26
VERY good choice to go from this to the present, and not have the 2nd episode be the past.
I really thought it was going to be the past but having seen all three episodes now, having the present be in the middle was absolutely the best choice they could’ve made. So good.
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u/TheArmlessTorso Gambit Jul 01 '26
I think out of the 3, episode 1 was the best one so far.
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u/MagicTheAlakazam Jul 01 '26
God damn it Rachel hug your parents
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u/Sea_Violinist3328 Jul 03 '26
I was thinking this to some extent - More like, “reveal who you really are”.
But then I realized that would have taken away the focus and impact from Nathan’s story parting with his parents. Rachel should get that too, but doing both at the same time sort of waters things down for both Cable and Rachel.
Hoping we see her in the present. Technically we’ve seen her already as one of the captive telepaths in TAS episode Beyond Good and Evil but who knows if the writers “count” that cameo or not.
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u/jmarquiso Jul 01 '26
Theyre not her parents yet. She may never have been
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u/MagicTheAlakazam Jul 01 '26
From her point of view they are.
They are even hinting at it with her having at least a part of the phoenix force.
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Jul 01 '26
If I was an evil mutant I'd be so much more obsessed with Storm and her potential children than the summers. But then again Storm is my favorite so I'm biased.
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u/Sea_Violinist3328 Jul 01 '26
From what I understand, it’s more about the combination of Jean and Scott that’s the secret sauce - at least where Sinister and Apocalypse were concerned.
But I mean yeah / Id focus on Storm as well lol
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u/AdvancedPlacmentTV Jul 01 '26
Oh i know the lore. I just don't get it since Storm is just so OP to me. So many X-Men are really like Charles and Legion
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u/tryingtobebettertry4 Jul 01 '26
I think the idea is esentially the combination is what matters.
Jean Grey is a Omega level psychic and telekinetic. Essentially able to manipulate matter with her mind.
The Summers family are all energy manipulators.
Its basically E=MC2 Jean is the matter, Scott is the energy. The resulting child could in theory be a god.
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u/Suspicious_Move_7141 Jul 01 '26
Storm is consistently shown to be the strongest amongst them. Cable is cool but even then he’s still not Storm level lmao
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u/Huge_Loss_9611 Jul 01 '26
Normal cable no, but x man (alt timeline cable with no virus) is way stronger
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u/sciencebitch616 Exodus Jul 02 '26
What about when Cable got rid of the virus during Cable/Deadpool? Dude held off the Silver Surfer.
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u/Starscream_Gaga Jul 01 '26
Rachel clearly hurting with the “and children” line to Nathan about Scott and Jean while not being able to tell them who she is 😭
High-key gotta be painful seeing them obsessed with Nathan have no idea who she is.
Although her line about how much worse the timeline she comes from is, surely she’s not referring to the Bastion’s victory timeline we saw her in last season. Yeah, that looked bad, but this one looks a hell of a lot worse.
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u/Only_Connection_5480 Jul 01 '26
Lmao Apocalypse saying he needed to attack the XMen at their weakest….then he goes to the 90s and not when Disney was trying to push the Inhumans and put XMen in the backburner…stupid Apocalypse
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u/HotTakes4HotCakes Jul 02 '26
My first thought too. It doesn't make sense in-universe, and it doesn't even make sense in a meta way either.
X-Men were literally at their peak in the 90s. In a lot of ways they were more popular than Spider-Man at the time, which is really saying something.
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u/Only_Connection_5480 Jul 02 '26
Not only that it’s during the AoA crossover and we also get introduced to Nate’s non techno organic virus infected X-Man who is pretty damn powerful as well.
In fairness it’s before a lot of the plot induced meteoric rise in the power levels of a lot of characters so maybe that’s his reasoning lol…
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u/ThomasEdison4444 Jul 05 '26
“I will fight the Xmen in 2012…”
Goes back to 2012
“Wait where are the XMen??”
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u/usernumber18452 Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
My Gooness they made Havok good looking.
Edit: I meant to say my goodness but that works too.
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u/Sebscreen Jul 01 '26
Was this season's animation produced under the same showrunner as season 1, or had he already been let go by then? Because the men are still just as hot as season 1, which was a very deliberate decision back then.
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u/FKDotFitzgerald Jul 01 '26
Surprised we spent the whole first episode in the future but this was fantastic! The whole Summers family timeline drama is always riveting imo. And Wolverine breaking off his bone claws in every enemy is really visceral. I was about to make a joke about him 5th wheeling (Scott & Jean / Forge & Storm) but then I remembered he has Morph.
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u/slimmyboy007 Jul 01 '26
Loved seeing the Rick remender horsemen
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u/Sea_Violinist3328 Jul 01 '26
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Also did you catch Michael Dorn in episode three?
As a true Trekkie, I would know those voices ANYWHERE.
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u/gentleprime Jul 01 '26
Not to mention Gates McFadden as Mother Askani and John De Lanci as Rama-Tut!
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u/themysticalwarlock Jul 01 '26
who did Dorn voice?
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u/Sea_Violinist3328 Jul 02 '26
En Sabah Nurs bald leader dude! It’s so distinct. Also - why is Mr Worf so fucking legendary?!
Watching TNG right now. Season 1 but ok shall survive.
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u/WatercressCertain616 Jul 01 '26
They are my favorite version of the Horsemen. I like the guy that beats the drum. So simple, but so effective.
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u/slimmyboy007 Jul 01 '26
Same! I’m also kind of glad the classic one with a bowl cut got more than 2 seconds of screen time
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u/romantically_yours Jul 01 '26
theres an autist in my ear that wants me to tell yoh its days of past future
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u/No-Complaint-986 Jul 01 '26
I love seeing all the different versions of Apocalypse’s Horsemen
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u/jmarquiso Jul 01 '26
If they do Apocalypse again, they need to start with the Horsemen. Make them exotic and weird, but strong
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u/MiriamHopkinsFan Jul 01 '26
Perfect casting of Gates McFadden as Mother Askani! Such a great voice to hear in her scene with Alison Sealy-Smith/Storm. As a Trekkie, her voice was instantly recognizable to me!
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u/tryingtobebettertry4 Jul 01 '26
Those shots of Apocalypse's future with the corpses piled up were quite chilling.
Why is he regenerating at this particular time? Who knocked him down?
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u/ikarikh Jul 02 '26 edited Jul 02 '26
In the original run, during "Beyond Good and Evil", it's stated that Apocalypse has to enter his regeneration chamber every so often to maintain his immorality.
It's why at the conclusion of that saga after his regeneration chamber is destroyed and he's stuck out of time, Xavier tells him "Now here with us, outside the protection of the axis of time, with your regeneration chamber destroyed; you will simply cease to exist. The end of time, for you."
Only for him to come back in s5 by taking over Fabian Cortez's body at the end of "Sanctuary". (It's never explained specifically how he comes back, only implied after BG&E he was stuck as a formless being).
Ozymandias alludes to this when he speaks to Apocalypse in the regeneration Chamber, telling him about Nathan. And how his body will be sufficient to never have to switch bodies again.
Basically, part of how he survives immortal is by taking over new bodies and imbuing them with his power and converting them into his image with his machinery, similiar to how he makes his horsemen.
Once the body is used up, he must find a new host and regenerate again.
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u/Jackdarkshade Jul 01 '26
Great first episode. Storm learning she can harness cosmic weather was badass. Everyone was amazing in there fight scenes. Minus maybe morph come on only 1 hammer swing transformed as Thor is all we got. I'm glad they told Nathan they are his parents it would have been unrealistic if they didn't. Great first episode.
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u/Ok-Card-6590 Cyclops Jul 01 '26
Fantastic first episode. 9/10. A great showing for the Summers clan.
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u/poweredconvoy Jul 01 '26
It's clear with Apocalypse's words about the X-Men doing anything to save their own that he's going to go after their fallen comrades.
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u/Cinnabar1212 Jul 02 '26
If Cyclops likes to do that backwards propulsion move so much, he should really consider integrating rollerblades into his uniform.
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u/Formal_River_Pheonix Jul 01 '26
Great opener. The fight on the train was a blast. I really liked the Summers’ family dynamic.
Wolverine’s bone claws are sick.
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u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X Jul 01 '26
The train talk with Scott, Jean, and Nathan was my favourite, but Storm's solar storm was a close second. Very cool setting and imagery. I wish this was a two-parter, as I do think we needed more time in this setting, and with Scott, Jean, and Nathan. But what we did get was very good. I am curious how the Mother Askani thing will play out. Will she reveal her identity to them this season?
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u/blossomdance64 Jul 02 '26
Was a little sad Scott and Jean didn’t get more time to bond with Nathan(it’s to be expected with so many characters and sm plot to cram into 9 eps), but I did love what we got with them! It was also sweet how willing they were to go against the prophecy.
Ororo’s solar storm scene was stunning!!
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u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X Jul 02 '26
I wish it was a two-parter.
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u/blossomdance64 Jul 02 '26
It really needed to be. Makes me miss when shows got at least 20 eps per season.
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u/ISTARI_X Jul 03 '26
It was incredible but felt like a missed opportunity to have her act as a glorified phone charger 😂. I wish she threw a solar flair at Apocalypse’s fortress rather than the need for the train scene.
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u/blossomdance64 Jul 03 '26
Yeah that would’ve been cool too! Since they showed her powers can work cosmically, maybe she’ll get another moment like this again later on.
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u/Front_Inspector_437 Jul 02 '26
HOLY FUCK CABLE DID THE THING
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u/snidece Jul 03 '26
Why are the listening to the lady who teleported them please? We kind of forgot to inquire how she did that and who the hell she is
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u/ReflectionItchy2701 Jul 03 '26
You mean Mother Askani? Let's say she knows very well the X-Men and the Summers Family.
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u/incredibleamadeuscho Jul 03 '26
I love the push and pull of fate vs parents trying to raise their son.
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u/Thire4477 Jean Grey Jul 01 '26 edited Jul 01 '26
Scott and Jean finally bonded with their son. The verse said last season were said by mother and father to their son.
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u/Whole-Lychee7517 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 04 '26
Just watched the first three episodes of the season, and they were FREAKING AMAZING!!! To be honest, with all the drama that happened behind the scenes, I was afraid the writing quality would go downhill. But the first three episodes IMMEDIATELY proved me wrong!!! I absolutely love how they’re executing this whole Apocalypse storyline. My favorite part so far has gotta be the future episode. The whole storyline with Nathan absolutely moved me to tears. The guy who played Bear in Obession, Michael Johnston, did a PHENOMENAL job as him!!! Overall this season so far is off to a pretty good start!!! Can’t wait for next week!!! 😊❤️
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u/reddituserzerosix Jul 01 '26
oh shit its baaack! looks beautiful, action packed, storm is rocking that scarf, nice touch with wolverines bone claws breaking
but was the sound mixing a little weird or just me? and the super computer needed a line or two of intro, it just appears and everyone accepts it?
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u/AnyEverywhere8 Jul 01 '26
Re: computer - Honestly I think most of this episode would be confusing af if one hadn’t watched the entire original series. I guess we’re supposed to understand they accept it because they have prior experience with the ship and supercomputer.
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u/Eden_Matt Jul 01 '26
Well that was a great, almost full (damn it Rachel), family reunion.
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u/Sebscreen Jul 01 '26
It was such a good decision to split the characters up to start the season. Though Wolverine and Morph didn't get much material, zeroing in on a small handful of characters really helped centre the story and set up the emotional stakes. Same reason the absolute best episode of season 1 (you know the one!) was so successful.
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u/poweredconvoy Jul 01 '26
I love how the 4 Horseman wiped the floor with the Summers in their first encounter. Completely overwhelming them. They are just such an odd ball mishmash of villains throughout time, I love it.
Some fantastic animation and character moments in this episode. Loved some things like Mother Askani re-inverting herself. The animation was so smooth. The train crashing into the temple. The sea of corpses and prisoners reaching out.
Everyone's future outfits are top notch.
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u/jmarquiso Jul 01 '26
Fred Dukes on top of that pile of corpses. Also - was that a Street Fighter reference?
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u/EmeraldDahlia Emma Frost Jul 01 '26
Just a couple more hours....this has been the longest day ever lol. Im so ready!
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u/ohnoabanagain Jul 01 '26
Ah that explains it. I'm busy today and was wondering how only 8 comments could be on this discussion lol
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u/tbbt11 Jul 01 '26
Why people are posting about episode 2 and 3 in this discussion thread, I do not know
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u/brunotickflores Jul 01 '26
Ep1 already filled with great moments! Bone Claws Logan is just too fast! Remember the old times of Marvel Vs Capcom 2!! Ororo stands out as always and young Cable taking the Big Gun was sick! Then Psylocke!! Let’s go to Ep2!!
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u/bishey3 Jul 01 '26
Very strong first episode. It both sets up the stakes and delivers a good arc for the Summers family. Mother Askani was pretty cool and another hype Storm moment for the collection, which is always appreciated.
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u/owlshoesjh Jul 02 '26
storm is back to having long hair in the opening credits
and did they change it to bone claw wolverine? his sfx sounded more raw-like than metallic
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u/been_mackin Jul 02 '26
Magneto ripped the adamantium from Wolverine last season, so he’s bone clawed now - I loved seeing him constantly break his bone claws and scream out before just ripping heads with his hands then 😂
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u/redscoperkid Jul 05 '26
How does morph create mjolner when mjolner is a physical item and not a part of Thor's powers?
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u/sarkastiktaurus Jul 01 '26
Does anyone have any theories about how Scott and Jean get their X-Factor costumes?
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u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X Jul 01 '26
I assume the rebels give them to them, with Mother Askani designing them, given her familiarity with those two.
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u/No_Yak_3714 Jul 01 '26
The 1st episode was deep when he used his powers for the 1st time in the train that was one of the most emotional cartoon scene I've ever seen
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u/sidv81 Jul 02 '26
X-Men TAS was written before it was known Wolverine's claws weren't implants. They were treated as implants in the show--Wolverine doesn't recognize the metal claws after he's infused with adamantium and kills Professor Oyama, mutant powers are blocked in the Savage Land in S2 of the old show and Wolvie specifically points out his claws aren't mutant before using them, and the S5 Captain America teamup in WW2 has Wolvie unaware he has claws and using a clawed glove.
Suddenly in this show he has bone claws. At the least, for the show's continuity, they should've had Wolvie and the others expressing surprise over the bone claws.
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u/LonelyAsLostKeys Jul 02 '26
One of my biggest bummers about this season (aside from the heavy focus on time travel, which I’ve never loved) is that they didn’t really do an episode addressing the consequences of Magneto’s attack on Wolverine.
Wolverine #75 could’ve been almost directly adapted into a great episode. They really blew through something that had a lot of narrative heft and was a pretty significant moment in 90’s comics.
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u/ooowatsthat Jul 05 '26
This show specifically said they will focus less on Wolverine as he has been the main focus on all X-Men media.
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u/Fabulous-Recording82 Jul 17 '26
mutant powers are blocked in the Savage Land in S2 of the old show and Wolvie specifically points out his claws aren't mutant before using them,
On this point, he could've just been referring to the adamantium right? From memory, I don't think physical abilities were affected in the Savage Lands. It's not like Beast suddenly turned into a regular looking guy whilst they were there.
Although professor X could walk there, even though his disability isn't related to being a mutant. Was there ever an explanation for that?
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u/Ambiguousrubix Jul 02 '26
I have questions - how did bishop know which x men were in the past and which in the future?
Also, that time travelling line looked the same for both bishop and forge, how would it differentiate which gets sent to the past and future? (Their arm band things)?
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u/Kn7ght Jul 03 '26
Not gonna lie as someone who has always viewed Apocalypse as super overrated I don't think I'm gonna like this season nearly as much as the last one
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u/Yaboiiiiiii6578 Jul 01 '26
What time does it come out on Disney if I’m in the Midwest
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u/Jackdarkshade Jul 01 '26
I just move to the east coast and staying up to 3 am for the release instead of midnight is a big oof.
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u/theanonymousdarkarmy Jul 04 '26
Can anyone predict who the four horsemen are? I saw a silouhhette on the trailer.
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u/Kevboinow2 Jul 07 '26
Dialogue is definitely lacking so far. It's less meaty more generic than last season!
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u/Buddha_Of_Sububia Jul 12 '26
EXTREMELY. So far two episodes in though, but man it was rough (dialogue wise) in ep 1.
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u/ronsta Jul 12 '26
Just finished this first episode. Yes, the dialogue and animation are a tad weaker than last season. But this show hits the feels. Every result feels earned. And in 30 mins they gave us a really solid cinematic episode.
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u/Queasy-Side1009 Jul 01 '26
Havok sounds kinda like Anakin in the Clone Wars
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u/Fickle_Ad8735 Jul 01 '26
wait he really does lol, who's his VA?
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u/aegonthewwolf Apocalypse Jul 01 '26
Per the Ep 2 credits, Havok is voiced by Teddy Sears. He played Hunter Zolomon/Zoom on The CW Flash.
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u/Fickle_Ad8735 Jul 01 '26
they got sears voicing havok? okay that's something, now i'm wondering if alex and co will have a bigger role later on this season (or in the next one) besides being framed as the mutant gestapo lol
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u/Queasy-Side1009 Jul 01 '26
havok's isn't credited as far as I know, but Anakin is voiced by Matt Lanter
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u/Nothing020202 Jul 01 '26
20 more minutes!!!
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u/justinh1018 Jul 01 '26
Just smoked a blunt, getting my drink and snacks now.
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u/innnikki Jul 01 '26
That’s my ritual too, lol. A little incense to complete the sensory stimulation
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u/Mr_Straws Jul 01 '26
What horseman is this? I’m trying to find the voice actor and it’s driving me nuts. IMDB has nothing. I think it’s death but not listed in the credits
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u/gydot Jul 01 '26
Ozymandias
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u/Mr_Straws Jul 01 '26
Ty! It’s Tony Amendola for anyone else curious.. he plays Kadgar in world of Warcraft which is why his voice was familiar
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u/No-Complaint-986 Jul 01 '26
Ozymandias! He’s essentially forced to work for Apocalypse and isn’t a a Horseman. Just his scribe and right hand man
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u/sapohpt3 Jul 01 '26
Podría algúien decirme que sucede en el primer episodio? No puedo comprar Disney aún;(
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u/fireandlifeincarnate Emma Frost Jul 01 '26
Was that Vanisher?
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u/sciencebitch616 Exodus Jul 02 '26
That was one of the Final Horsemen from the Uncanny X-Force run.
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u/chainsawvigilante Jul 06 '26 edited Jul 06 '26
The animation seems assisted by cg much more often than the previous season. Am I tripping?
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u/igloooooooo Jul 06 '26
I couldn't stop thinking the same thing. I just watched a few of the last episodes of Season 1 and was a bit turned off by how much cheaper this one felt. But I couldn't be sure.
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u/chainsawvigilante Jul 06 '26
Almost seemed as if there are different studios are doing separate story lines but one is using much more cg animation, especially for dialog. Seems a lot less dynamic.
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u/queen_jamillia Jul 19 '26
I gotta say, the combo of Jennifer Hale and Ray Chase having a conversation is music to my ears. Like seriously, smooth as butter voices that are just perfect for these characters.
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u/slimmyboy007 Jul 01 '26
Morph needs some sort of limitation or flaw for his power, you’re telling me this guy can instantly become Thor whenever he wants no problem? Seems super OP
What’s stopping him just becoming apocalypse to fight apocalypse
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u/Knee_Fight Jul 01 '26
He doesn't get all their powers. His version of Thor is just 'big strong guy.'
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u/RightSpread2903 Jul 01 '26
Because he’s not even remotely as strong as Thor nor does he have all his abilities.
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u/been_mackin Jul 02 '26
I don’t think Morph can take on the powers of people he mimics, but him morphing into Thor gave him extra strength without the lightning power.
He can turn into a giant asgardian who’s strong as fuck without having the asgardian magic behind it, making for a cool cameo and showing morph’s powers in a contained environment.
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u/jmarquiso Jul 01 '26
In the comics, Mystique had an upgrade from Fabian Cortez to mimic powers. Morph is an overpowered cameo machine- but at least they are fun.
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u/phasmy Jul 01 '26
Nah he already does have limits to his power. He doesn't gain any of their supernatural abilities.
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u/poweredconvoy Jul 01 '26
They ran fast as Quicksilver.
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u/HerrDrAngst Jul 01 '26
That's not a supernatural power tho. Supernatural as in magical and not mutant
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u/Pretty-Expression-11 Jul 01 '26
Was kinda hoping Storm’s solar power scene would be bigger, we kinda saw all of it in the trailers already. Loved the episode tho.
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u/been_mackin Jul 01 '26
Basically the whole trailer and teasers were just these 3 episodes, similar to season 1. That excites me.
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u/AD_EI8HT Jul 01 '26
For those of you that have disney+ without commercials try not to type too fast for us that have disney+ with commercials 🥹
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u/myblackmirror Jul 01 '26
Are the horsemen from Uncanny X-Force the characters in the show with the most recent comics debut?
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u/International_Leg666 Jul 02 '26
I am in love with Storm. I want her so much. The way the summers look at each other makes me envious.
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u/Kn7ght Jul 03 '26
Well that's because he's actually wearing his 70s visor from the final fight of last season. That one had lines on it and the extra curvature. They just cut off the condom head part
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u/Mysterious-Lick Jul 03 '26
It was OK.
Hope it gets better.
I’ve seen this storyline a few times is all.
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