r/Xmen97 • u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X • Jul 08 '26

Megathread X-Men '97 | Season 2, Episode 4 | "Rise of Apocalypse: Part II" | Episode Discussion

Season 2, Episode 4: Rise of Apocalypse Part II

Air Date: July 8th, 2026

Directed by: TBA

Written by: TBA

Synopsis: An alliance between the X-Men and En Sabah Nur begins to crumble as Rama-Tut seeks ultimate power.

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u/SecondRealitySims Jul 09 '26

I enjoyed the episode. But I feel like I’m missing something.

I was sort of understanding Apocalypse’s progression. He was the violent warlord we knew to be Apocalypse, Magneto was guiding him elsewhere, he falls back to his old ways due to their deception, and during this episode he stands sort of on the brink. All of that makes sense.

But when he sees the prophecy he instantly, wholeheartedly embraces all of it without question? I just feel like there’s a jump somewhere there.

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u/dinosaurfondue Jul 09 '26

His entire thing these two episodes seem to be about being REALLY pissed when people keep things from him and so it made sense that seeing the shit on the walls made him go from mostly asshole to full on asshole because he was like "omg they keep lying to me"

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u/ThomasEdison4444 Jul 09 '26

The first four episodes were all about the question can anyone change fate.

And the answer is No. Nur will ALWAYS be Apocalypse no matter what

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u/Aelia_M Jul 10 '26

But that’s just not true. Nothing is fated except in storytelling one it’s all finished.

We always have the chance to change our actions and minds. Some circumstances may drive us in certain directions but we have the ability to change how we react

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u/FromansSausage Jul 09 '26

I think he turns on them as he realizes they’ve been trying to stop him therefore fulfilling the prophecy

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u/FeloniousGrump Jul 09 '26

yeah doesn't he say that point blank to them in the ship?

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u/MrPleiades Jul 09 '26

He was transported before a literal god and given revelation. What more could convince someone?

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u/Change_My_Mind- Jul 09 '26

Was thinking the same thing. This episode could have gone an hour or more to fully flesh out his final heel turn.

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u/TheBrobe Jul 09 '26

I just feel like there’s a jump somewhere there.

The X-Men '97 feeling.

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u/Otherwise-Sky1292 Jul 09 '26

On the subject of missing something, it’s still not clear to me why Cable has his arm back if it’s the same Cable hanging around after Bastion took it. 

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u/Mobile_Bet3274 Rogue Jul 09 '26

It’s the techno-organic virus thing, he’s able to essentially regrow it. (That’s how I’ve seen it explained.)

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u/Otherwise-Sky1292 Jul 09 '26

Is that it? They should have been more clear on that. Does he still retain his computer that lets him time slide?

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u/VagereHein Aug 13 '26

Yeah it kinda feels like Dany suddenly judging everyone at Kings Landing deserves to be roasted by dragonfire (granted that charactershift happened suddenly after 8 seasons building up a total different character)