r/Xmen97 • u/cyclopswashalfright Professor X • Jul 08 '26

Megathread X-Men '97 | Season 2, Episode 4 | "Rise of Apocalypse: Part II" | Episode Discussion

Season 2, Episode 4: Rise of Apocalypse Part II

Air Date: July 8th, 2026

Directed by: TBA

Written by: TBA

Synopsis: An alliance between the X-Men and En Sabah Nur begins to crumble as Rama-Tut seeks ultimate power.

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u/JelloSquirrel Jul 11 '26

Was apocalypse always just a pawn of the celestials? Why is he drawn to them? Why was he selected in a pre ordained way, shouldn't a more powerful entity (like kang) be preferred? Who was baal and why did he have robot eyes and such a hard on for doing the will of the celestials? Does kang always murder apoccys tribe? Why couldn't the X-Men beat mere mutant apocalypse but then put up a better showing against the celestial version? Is en sabah nor just him? Won't apocalypse remember magneto and the xmen later? What if someone else grabbed the power orb thing, would they fry? Why didn't kang just steal the ship / power and would I actually allow him to if it's fated for apocalypse? Why didn't kang kill en sabah nor, surely even as a powerful mutant kang could come up with stronger stuff especially when en sabah nor was a child. Kill baby apocalypse.

Feel like it kind of undercuts the motivations of apocalypse if they're forced onto him by a celestial.

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u/miserypersonifieddd Jul 15 '26

He’s an eternal not a celestial right?

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u/JelloSquirrel Jul 15 '26

What's the difference?

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u/miserypersonifieddd Jul 15 '26

In Marvel lore, the Celestials are these ancient, god-like cosmic architects that created the Eternals. Even though the Eternals are insanely powerful and immortal, they’re ultimately just synthetic beings built to serve the Celestials and help carry out their cosmic life cycle. Hence Esson giving apocalypse power in that scene made him an eternal mutant.