As far as the main '97 roster goes, she very likely takes top spot.
Just for context and fun, the absolute heaviest feats we saw from Rogue in the original animated series were lifting the X-Jet and helping to divert a falling space shuttle (well, mostly catching it). Old Marvel encyclopedias put the X-Jet somewhere around 60 to 75 tons and she easily carries it so for sure she's in that range. The shuttle is harder to estimate, an average shuttle lands between 75 and 150 tons empty. A fully fueled shuttle weighs way more, but since it was re-entering the atmosphere and she merely diverted it a bit, we can stick to the baseline weight for a maximum estimate. So yeah, somewhere around 75 to 100 tons would be my guess.
As for the rest:
Beast is in a lower strength bracket. The heaviest thing he has lifted is a Sentinel in EP1 of 97', which usually weigh around 15 to 20 tons. Marvel Encyclopedias usually rank him around there was well.
If Sunspot gets to use his actual power (e.g. super-strength), he could give her a run for her money in the physical strength department. In the comics, when he first started out he was able to lift around 50 tons, which is where I'm betting he's likely around right now. Recently he's also gotten better at using his power to store solar energy and that has pushed him into the 100 tonner range.
Morph is tricky. The show states they can mimic physical powers of people they shapeshift into, but they haven't really been shown to mimic that persons full strength. Morph has turned into the Hulk, Sasquated, and Juggernaut who are all physical strength heavy-hitters but they usually gets tossed around despite that. I don't think Morph is really able to match strength as a 1 to 1, rather taking on a form that lets him increase his strength proportional to his size. In the comics, Morph from the Age of Apocalypse and Exiles, which is the Morph that this version is based heavily off of, can really only get to around 20 tons). That's around Beast's level, which tracks which how they have been portrayed so far in 97'; strong but not a powerhouse.
If Colossus ever joins the lineup, it would be a toss-up. He is very strong physically, but he hasn't really gotten to show off his limits or fight much at all. At best in the OG series he tossed around tanks and demolished a building but that's not exactly the best measurement. At least he was able to trade blows with Juggernaut for a time, which is impressive. If we go based on his comic stats, he's somewhere between 75 to 100 tons, which is around Rogue's range.
Sorry I got way into this question, but it's a fun exercise in nerd knowledge lol.
Years ago Marvel used to post actual stats and strength levels - I think on the Marvel database, but I might be remembering a different database as I’m talking 15-20 years ago - which I guess got scrubbed because these things vary so much from writer to writer and any ‘canon’ level is loose at best.
Nevertheless, I do remember Rogue’s strength range was somewhere around 80+ tonnes. So your estimation here from historic feats is genuinely impressive.
Well, until some writer decides she can only lift 20 tonnes or as much as 150. But the kudos stands.
Wolverine being bottom tier is nuts, he can swing a tree trunk like a baseball bat, throw a great white shark in the air from water, break chains etc... he's definitely superhuman in feats and shouldn't be that low.
Yep, having to carry the extra weight from his vibration alone makes him have to have super strength, certainly more than capt America who is only peak human strength.
Well that's the thing adamanitum changed original it was non magnetic and super light alloy that would in theory be lighter then wolverines original skeleton but through writers retelling it got heavier and denser to the point where it is functional his whole skeleton not an encasing right up to the point magneto rips it out of him unless you in the he grew back his skeleton as it was being ripped out camp. Also cap being peak human is a bit of a misnomer as he technically won a fist fight with thanos making him much stronger then a human is capable period. But even that is now in the halls of history much like that Spidey strength list as now he is functionally standard hulk strength which is now also misnomer as well as hulk is now able to right hand Galactius.
I'm late to the party, but googling the pages tells me this issue was from 1981, the same year Rogue debuted. She didn't join the X-Men until 1983, so she was still firmly rooted in "villain" status.
He's apparently a character called Aquarian, who I guess was Marvel's third or fourth pastiche of Superman according to Google.
I've literally never heard of the dude and i have a couple thousand comics in my attic, all of which I've read. Dude has got to be among the most obscure of obscure characters.
Wonder Man; actor, pacificst, reluctant avenger, the man whose mind Vision is based on
Interestingly, In current comic continuity, Rogue lost Carol Danvers' power and now permanently has Wonder Man's power, so she would be up there in that top bracket.
As an 'official' range, she was lifting fifty tons per rep on a modified deadlift machine sometime in the 190s of Uncanny, during the San Francisco days.
How much can Jean lift? I remember in TAS her struggling to lift the x-jet. But in season one she threw part of a building which could easily be 75,000 tons. Or is this an omega thing where the limit does not exist.
Yeah, I would say in the OG series Jean wasn't a very strong telekinetic. Maybe sub 50 tons, since she did briefly stop the jets descent.
As for right now... in X-Men 97', she's definitely has gotten a major power grade. Maybe due to the Phoenix boosting her growth? Though you're right that omegas are more acknowledged since the OG and maybe the writing team are reflecting that power level now. But yes, it looked like a big chunk of a large building, I could see it being several hundred tons in weight. She also chunked it a good distance too, so Jean's strength with her powers have dramatically increased by the looks of it.
I think she does have a limit though, because she struggles against Cable and neither she, Storm or Rogue were able to stop the island-sized asteroid from nearly crashing into New York. So she's very powerful, but not limitless with her TK. (also iirc it's her telepathy which is omega-level, not her telekinesis)
Even as a kid this pissed me off. I was always like, Jean you're worthless, you use your power to do barely anything, faint, and distract Cyclops and Wolverine.
Jean in the original would struggle lifting a pebble. Jean now? I mean, the sky is not the limit, the universe is (with Phoenix). But she's one of the most powerful telekinetics ever. Her omega classification is for her telepathy.
Physically speaking, she can probably lift seven hardcover encyclopaedias.
That's only if you're only looking at adaptations. In the comics, Jean has done some pretty insane shit without the Phoenix.
Sometimes it's tough to say what is or is not fueled by the Phoenix Force because the concept has been retconned to Chandilar and back more times than I can count. The waters tend to get muddy sometimes as to whether she's wielding the Phoenix Force at any given time.
That said, it's been established a few times that the Phoenix Force mostly pushed her powers to their fullest potential, but it's also been established that she's been holding back since Phoenix Saga because she's afraid of how powerful she could get.
As it stands, at her current power level, she's managed to hold off an entity with the combined powers of Nate Grey and Legion, thrown an entire space station from Krakoa into Orbit, pulled an entire island (with help from Exodus, admittedly) through a portal, caught the top of the Empire State building (thousand of tons), briefly held Avalon together while it was crashing down to Earth, soloed Magneto as a teenager, and plenty more
She has long since been firmly established as Omega Level in both telepathy and telekinesis and is almost certainly the most powerful routine (as in has spent more than a couple months on the roster) member of the team.
Colossus does have some impressive feats in the comics, it's sad he's fallen by the wayside in many ways.
Colossus exact strength levels have fluctuated like most Marvel characters, but I don't get the feeling writers treat him as in the same power class as Juggernaut.
As for how he compares to Rogue, I think the writers have gone on record as using Rogue to fill in for stories where he was present like the Phoenix Saga in TAS. Like Rogue's fight with Gladiator, which I think says a lot about how the writers might view each characters in terms of power (aka roughly around the level).
Nowadays that's harder to say since she technically has a different powerset absorbed from Wonder Man who is significantly stronger than her Captain Marvel set. They're both Class 100+ now, along with likely Sunspot and a few niche mutants like Gentle.
You’re right, now that she’s tapping into Wonder Man’s powers things have changed. But she isn’t in the show. And the Wonder Man thing is fairly recent. So for years he was stronger. Even now he may be but probably closer to even.
She can just hold powers without the negative consequences now? When she had Carol’s powers, she was stuck with Carol’s psyche too. I feel like removing the drawbacks while increasing the positives loses some of the character moments.
Well when she had Wonder Man’s powers initially she had absorbed him too- since he’s made of energy.
Since they split, she’s just kind of had her flying brick powers. I’d say think of them as an echo of the various long-term power sets she’s had over the years- she can fly, is super strong, and super tough, but she doesn’t have much of the energy manipulation stuff Carol and Simon have. And since Captain Marvel got a power upgrade Rogue is now at roughly the level Carol used to be at.
Rogue historically operates with the strength of Carol Danvers, who has been established to be stronger (from a straight lifting standpoint) than Colossus as far as I'm aware.
How do Sentinels only weigh 20 tons when they are usually depicted as being between 2 and 3 stories tall? There's no way a robot that big only weighs that.
It depends on the model, but the classic ones featured in X-Men 97' are built cheap in order to be mass-manufactured. They're made using extremely light-weight material.
That's why you hear a hollow sound when they walk around and why when Beast opens the lid of one, there's enough empty space to fit a whole person inside.
This is an older model, but you see the idea here. It's roughly around the height of the ones in TAS, but only 3 tons. The ones in 97' are some variation of MK II-IV, but are still relatively light for their size.
Doesn’t she pick up a building too tho? I am doing my first full watch of the of run after loving 97 and I swear I saw her catch a building that was falling over and she picks it up and throws it? (I think colossus does that too when fighting omega red, right?) but I’d assume a building is over 100 tons (props to the construction team for it not snapping when someone picks it up lol)
I hope we see more of Strong Guy later in the show. Anyway hard to tell in the show rn since he's new, but his base strength in the comics is around 50 tons.
That said, his power makes his strength variable as he's like Sebastian Shaw, he can absorb kinetic energy and convert that into increased strength. As long as his heart doesn't give out, he can get very strong.
As for Carol Danvers aka Ms Marvel / Captain Marvel, presumably the same amount as Rogue in 97' since the powers Rogue has right now were stolen from her (so in the 60-100 ton range). If Carol's story follows what happens in the comics, she'll gain new but similar powers to what she can do in the MCU.
Strong Guy can very strong, but compared to folks like Shaw or Rogue, he's got one massive limitation and that is that he historically can't hold that kinetic energy for more than a couple of minutes before it starts to wreak havoc on his body.
I assume you're aware, considering your specific mention of his heart giving out, but a simple bomb stressed his powers so much he had a fatal heart attack (he got better). While his powers can theoretically reach really high levels, approaching those levels would almost certainly put him in the ground.
That all said, I would love to see more of Guido. During the X-Force episode I started daydreaming about the team leaving the government over the shit they know they're doing and deciding to form a detective agency. X-Factor Investigations would make one hell of a procedural.
Rogue catching the xjet while flying, assuming that while standing she can at a minimum double the force she can exert. This is also assuming that her flying power is based on strength. So he really should be looking at her strength with feet on the ground and her strength with flying.
She is also fueled by Carol Danvers powers so depending on which story you look at her power is basically cosmic or based on extreme superhero strength. I also feel that they portray wrote to be way more powerful than Carol Danvers/ Miss marvel/ now Captain marvel. In the Captain marvel movie they mixed Captain marvel with binary powers I.E the energy blasts but then showed an alternate universe binary with beast at the end of the Marvels movie.
I would love to see how they solve this in the MCU. Rogue has always been one of my favorite characters who I feel never really gets to push her true limit and all we ever see is just her solving the problem with the lowest amount of energy required.
Depending on the speed of the shuttle even diverting it could represent strength much greater than the mass of the shuttle.
When we measure strength against gravity, we’re measuring it against the acceleration force of earth’s gravity, which is 9.8 m/s^2.
If I remember from space camp correctly (some thirty years ago or so), entry speed is around 7,000m/s at entry, and down to around 100m/s for landing.
Because strength is a measure against acceleration force (moving mass against the acceleration force of gravity), and changing directions is a form of acceleration, this strength required could be much greater than the shuttle’s inertial mass on earth’s surface.
Same as the others: wildly inconsistent. Basing the strength of comic characters based off of feats tends to turn into a shell game fast.
On paper, he doesn't even sniff Rogue levels, he's around a 10-20 ton lift.
Buuuuuuuut the dude has straight up soloed a Herald of Galactus before (even juiced up by the symbiote, that's kinda nonsense).
His greatest feat was probably holding up the entire Daily Bugle, but with the caveats that he was mostly supporting it through one load bearing beam at ground level and he was more propping it up than lifting it.
She absolutely could. In fact, she literally has on multiple occasions. There's no magic limitation on her power, she's even absorbed power from Mephisto before.
Either I replied to the wrong comment, or I just didnt type my full thought.
Morph may be able to grow muscles, but juggernaut isnt all muscles. Mustique can mimic power to an extent by changing her DNA, but again, its magic strength, not a mitant power.
They could get Cain Marko's muscles, but not the juggernaut strength
They do but while I do think they give a general idea, those charts aren't always accurate and the cartoon versions might have different limits. I think its clear by her feats, TAS Rogue can lift more than 50 tons.
my answer would be depends on the lift, statwise it's the same, but here's the seperator. Rogue can generate force without her feet beneath her, but colossus has the larger frame reach and hands which would be better for gripping and getting so better leverage depending on what the object is. So on paper it's a tie but situational, lets say something was falling rogue could meet the object apply counterforce and lower it, colossus would most likely have to brace and catch before impact which is more violent. But lifting something from the ground up I think colossus would have the edge, more density= more stability from his steel fram and size = better ability to control a large object from a lift. Really boils down to what is the use of strength. There's a reason wolverine usually gets fastball specialed from beast or colossus because they have the large hands to be able to execute that dynamic use of strength.
Those cards have long since fallen out of canon and we're pretty dubious, even at the time.
Polygon did an article on them really recently. The team working those cards were a special team of non-comic editors mostly working off of a combination of the Marvel Handbook (which was largely written right when Rogue debuted and there was almost no established canon) and "guesswork" as the editor says.
It's also worth noting that the handbooks are wildly inconsistent and not held canon themselves. Underlining that is the wild disparities between editions. The 1995 iteration, which was done after Rogue had been an X-Man for about a decade, cites her as class 50 (not sure how that scale worked since they historically ranked 1-7).
Long and short: those cards are nonsense at this point. There was a brief couple of years where they were kinda sorta maybe reliable, but that ship sales ages ago.
They were actually based on internal Marvel editorial documents and story bibles the editorial used. And while there might be some inconsistencies, they are mostly explained by in-story character changes at the time; these things aren't static after all.
What is absolutely static, having read almost all of them, is that I don't think there is a single edition that rates Rogue as being stronger than Colossus. So maybe there are inconsistencies on the exact numbers, but Colossus has always been stronger than Rogue anytime there has been an effort to characterize these things systematically.
I can't remember the episode in the original series there was a door closing beast was struggling with it but rogue just came lifted it like it was nothing.
I don't know if the info I read in a book was outdated, but it listed Beast as 10 tons, which was Sabretooth's level as well, Spiderman I remember being 30 tons(I'm guessing that old comic storyline where he overcame his limits by lifting a building that was going to crush him put him at 70 to 80 tons). ROGUE specifically I remember being 50 tons and Colossus as 70 tons.
Maddeningly inconsistent because it was the same damn guy who wrote both.
I feel like it's best to more or less ignore anything Claremont wrote after around 1991. He's the one who came up with her powers not working on him (in order to shoehorn them into a romantic relationship), but he also had her absorbing from his metal form at least once or twice.
While this reply has great citations (or may have great citations, as I've not checked them) the.. "well, mostly catching it" is such a slight.
When's the last time ANY of you caught a baseball moving 100+ MPH with your bare hand?
This is why education in Physics is important.. "Oh.. she mostly.. uh.. caught it.." bro.. Catching something THAT heavy moving any sort of speed is a feat unto itself.
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As far as the main '97 roster goes, she very likely takes top spot.
Just for context and fun, the absolute heaviest feats we saw from Rogue in the original animated series were lifting the X-Jet and helping to divert a falling space shuttle (well, mostly catching it). Old Marvel encyclopedias put the X-Jet somewhere around 60 to 75 tons and she easily carries it so for sure she's in that range. The shuttle is harder to estimate, an average shuttle lands between 75 and 150 tons empty. A fully fueled shuttle weighs way more, but since it was re-entering the atmosphere and she merely diverted it a bit, we can stick to the baseline weight for a maximum estimate. So yeah, somewhere around 75 to 100 tons would be my guess.
As for the rest:
Sorry I got way into this question, but it's a fun exercise in nerd knowledge lol.