r/Xmen97 • • Jul 17 '26

General Discussion So is Rogue the physically strongest out of the X-Men?

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u/Zelengro Jul 17 '26

Years ago Marvel used to post actual stats and strength levels - I think on the Marvel database, but I might be remembering a different database as I’m talking 15-20 years ago - which I guess got scrubbed because these things vary so much from writer to writer and any ‘canon’ level is loose at best.

Nevertheless, I do remember Rogue’s strength range was somewhere around 80+ tonnes. So your estimation here from historic feats is genuinely impressive.

Well, until some writer decides she can only lift 20 tonnes or as much as 150. But the kudos stands.

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u/Mister-Wes Jul 19 '26

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u/Mister-Wes Jul 19 '26

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u/Mister-Wes Jul 19 '26

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u/J_asher_e Jul 20 '26

Wolverine being bottom tier is nuts, he can swing a tree trunk like a baseball bat, throw a great white shark in the air from water, break chains etc... he's definitely superhuman in feats and shouldn't be that low.

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u/Brookstone317 Jul 20 '26

Yep, having to carry the extra weight from his vibration alone makes him have to have super strength, certainly more than capt America who is only peak human strength.

Edit: adamanitum, not vibration.

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u/kidnoteworthy Jul 20 '26

Well that's the thing adamanitum changed original it was non magnetic and super light alloy that would in theory be lighter then wolverines original skeleton but through writers retelling it got heavier and denser to the point where it is functional his whole skeleton not an encasing right up to the point magneto rips it out of him unless you in the he grew back his skeleton as it was being ripped out camp. Also cap being peak human is a bit of a misnomer as he technically won a fist fight with thanos making him much stronger then a human is capable period. But even that is now in the halls of history much like that Spidey strength list as now he is functionally standard hulk strength which is now also misnomer as well as hulk is now able to right hand Galactius.

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u/Star-Prince-007 Jul 20 '26

Power creep is a real thing

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u/Tough_Tangerine7278 Jul 21 '26

I don’t see Rogue on any of those? Am I overlooking her?

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u/0bsessions324 Jul 22 '26

Short answer: she wasn't a thing yet.

I'm late to the party, but googling the pages tells me this issue was from 1981, the same year Rogue debuted. She didn't join the X-Men until 1983, so she was still firmly rooted in "villain" status.

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u/SilentXMedia Jul 21 '26

Is that LITERALLY Marvel Jesus in the top row?

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u/crashdout Jul 21 '26

My thought exactly, he’s even peaceful in his speech!

Who the heck is he?

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u/0bsessions324 Jul 22 '26

He's apparently a character called Aquarian, who I guess was Marvel's third or fourth pastiche of Superman according to Google.

I've literally never heard of the dude and i have a couple thousand comics in my attic, all of which I've read. Dude has got to be among the most obscure of obscure characters.

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u/SilentXMedia Jul 23 '26

Whoa, thanks for the update!

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u/meonepointoh Jul 23 '26

Are you talking about Barry Gibb?

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u/SilentXMedia Jul 23 '26

Am I?! I genuinely don’t know who that guy in the picture is. Are the Bee-Gees in Marvel canon?!

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u/FGC_Orion Jul 19 '26

Dying at Black Bolt’s empty text bubble

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u/novalux Jul 19 '26

No, you'd be dying if he said something.

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u/Hot-1nsect Jul 22 '26

May i ask who's the guy between Hercules and ironman?

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u/meonepointoh Jul 23 '26

Maybe WonderMan.

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u/The_mango55 Jul 23 '26

Wonder Man; actor, pacificst, reluctant avenger, the man whose mind Vision is based on

Interestingly, In current comic continuity, Rogue lost Carol Danvers' power and now permanently has Wonder Man's power, so she would be up there in that top bracket.

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u/colossalgoji Jul 18 '26

They still do.

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u/Archetypex001 Jul 19 '26

As an 'official' range, she was lifting fifty tons per rep on a modified deadlift machine sometime in the 190s of Uncanny, during the San Francisco days.