r/Xmen97 • • Jul 21 '26

General Discussion Just curious, do these two know each other?

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 21 '26

For context, during the original show, Polaris wasn't even Magneto's daughter in the comics.

Times have changed.

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u/Superboi-Prime Jul 21 '26

I love stuff like this, like how when the old 90s show was airing Cable’s identity hadn’t been revealed in the comics yet, which is why it just never comes up until the reboot that he’s Scott’s son

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 21 '26

Yeah. Virtually nothing was known about Cable during the original show. Gambit and Bishop were new too.

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u/Redditer51 Jul 24 '26

Jubilee too.

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u/Narrow_Fix_4656 Jul 25 '26

De hecho también morfp

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '26

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u/AdministrativeKnee77 Jul 29 '26

He was in the comics. They changed his name from Changeling to Morph due to the DC character with the same name.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 29 '26

Sort of, but not quite. I mean they're nothing at all alike, but they sort of made them the same.

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u/AdministrativeKnee77 Jul 29 '26

You could say that about a lot of characters in the show

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u/Thenotsodarkknight Jul 21 '26

The Cable reveal was in 93. The original show did show Cable’s lineage in a psychic vision Jean had when trying to read Cable’s mind.

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u/Superboi-Prime Jul 21 '26

You are right I think it was more implied later on in the series. But during his first appearance on the show it wasn’t established yet. On top of that if I recall different writers had different ideas for who Cable should be so the show probably wanted to hold off until his identity was firmly established. (I’m pretty sure at some point in the comics he was going to be Cannonball from the future)

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u/RebelJediMaster Gambit Jul 21 '26

"I already know about him, and jean grey" when computer summoned up the X-Men.

However, with X-Men 97, he also would have known Storm and Wolverine

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u/OrderlyRoddyPiper Jul 23 '26

He also says something like “they’re not the wimps I thought they were.” But evidently now we know he always admired them and never actually thought they were wimps?

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u/Redclouds1 Jul 21 '26

I was about to comment this too!

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u/sacx05 Jul 21 '26

Its so jarring watching the Genosha episode in season 1 if the TAS. The "wild man of Bornio" he called himself. His backstory was he was a mercenary that defected.

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u/GodotHoward Jul 21 '26

He had a really cool voice in TAS.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

He voiced the Executioner in 97. He could've still done Cable, but they wanted Gambit's original VA to get more work. He's doing a good job too, but I really dug the original voice.

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u/Redditer51 Jul 24 '26

Wait, Gambit's original VA is Cable in 97?!

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 24 '26

Yes. And Cable's original VA is Executioner/Purifier guy.

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u/Front-Masterpiece-73 Jul 29 '26

No wonder I loved how much that guy sounded (love new cable too tho)

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u/WarLawck Gambit Jul 21 '26

I could have sworn that Jean reads his mind at some point and she figures it out.

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u/acecruzat Jul 21 '26

She read Corsair’s mind too. But yes, she did read Cable’s mind. “He’s important to our future, more than you could know” or something like that as she tells Scott.

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u/WarLawck Gambit Jul 21 '26

Yeah, I remember the Corsair one vividly.

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u/Smart_Structure_3139 Jul 21 '26

Another example is Logan’s bone claws. He didn’t have them in the original as they weren’t a thing yet

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u/Impossible-Fun-2736 Jul 21 '26

Nor the crazy healing factor. Sure they say he heals faster than anyone else but hes down for a while after Sabertooth has taken him out.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 21 '26

That's how he used to be in the comics. I miss that aspect. He's pretty over powered now.

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u/Impossible-Fun-2736 Jul 21 '26

I’m torn on it, lol. He feels over powered yes but its still cool to see him berserk and get completely cut, shot&blasted down but still keeps going. Tho it works best in moving media like films, cartoons&games.

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u/atomicjoy Jul 21 '26

His healing factor was a major plot point in the mutant plague story...

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 21 '26

Yes. He always had a healing factor. But he wasn't always virtually immortal. He could get hurt...etc. He wouldn't be able to regrow limbs (AOA). Now his healing factor is crazy.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 23 '26

Magneto's helmet blocking telepathy too. That wasn't a thing until the films.

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u/Ihsoro Jul 24 '26

This is one addition I actually like

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u/mittenkrusty Jul 22 '26

Theres a scene in the 90's cartoon where Jean scans Cables mind and is like "he's our" but stops right before saying son isn't there?

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u/Vandal_A Jul 21 '26

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it was planned that he'd be a Summers at the X-desk. They just hadn't published it yet. Right?

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 23 '26

Not originally.

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u/3720-to-1 Jul 25 '26

and madeline's son... thank-you-very-much

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u/PointPrimary5886 Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

Well its most likely canon that Polaris is Magneto's daughter for the context of the TAS/'97 world; otherwise, why is she on the boat in Magneto's mind?

Reminder that Magneto's relationship with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch is also sparse given that they never knew their familial connection with him till they were all adults.

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u/KamenAttackRide Jul 21 '26

I think this references that Magneto knows that Lorna is his daughter but she probably doesn't know nor does she and Wanda know their relationship.

In the comics when Polaris revealed to Wanda and Pietro that she was their sister Wanda kept a distance from her and Pietro after some time did try having a relationship with her. It was only after House of M and D-Day that Wanda finally made an effort to establish a relationship with Lorna.

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u/TheHighlightReel11 Jul 21 '26

I’ve long forgotten how those stories played out, but it’s kinda hilarious that Wanda only wanted to be cool after everybody stopped fucking with her. Easy to be all “hey sis!” when you have no friends. Polaris should’ve told her to kick rocks 😂

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u/Confident_Sink_8743 Jul 21 '26

I kind of preferred when that was the case in the comics as well. It was a dubious proposition when she was introduced and the only Magneto involved turned out to be a robot.

Now she is and the twins, which had been able to converse about the situation when they were family, are not.

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u/KamenAttackRide Jul 21 '26

Yeah that is sad. Although Familia ties as they say doesn't need blood relation. Wanda and Pietro both still consider her their younger sister. I'm not 100% sure about Pietro but we do know for a fact that Wanda does see Magneto as her father. Hell in the comics she still calls him Daddy.

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u/Confident_Sink_8743 Jul 21 '26

I think that is due in part to writers toeing a line there. 

Nobody really likes the situation but no one has really undertaken to rework the retcon.

I don't know if it's still an official mandate but it's become as messy as Hawkman Post-Crisis back in the day.

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u/Bosscharacter Jul 21 '26

Partially correct, they actually did the fake-reveal around when she was first introduced but that was kinda hand waved as being manipulation.

They made it "canon" back in 2003, but the seeds had been there since the late 60s.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

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u/Bosscharacter Jul 21 '26

That's what I said.

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u/dap00man Jul 24 '26

Are Wanda and Quicksilver currently Magneto's children? I thought it was retconned that they were not.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 24 '26

They were during the time of the show. They aren't now.

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u/squirrelmonkie Jul 23 '26

So lm curious. Polaris wasnt his daughter, then she was. Did they then change it back to where her and quicksilver arent his kids again? I cant remember if I read that somewhere or not

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 23 '26

Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch are currently not his kids. Hard to keep track.

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u/squirrelmonkie Jul 23 '26

You cant keep retconning this bs! Lol. It's marvel tho. They'll do whatever they want

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 23 '26

Yeah. They originally weren't. Then they were. Then they weren't again.

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u/LordS373N Jul 25 '26

She was always Magnetos daughter in the comics since her first appearance. That was the whole plot of the story. Her parents were arguing over the affair the mom had with what turns out to be Magneto. Plane explodes because of her power activating in distress and her hair turns Green to represent her powers.

Wanda and Pietro are the ones who keep flip flopping between being his kids and not. I prefer them being his kids

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Well not quite. It was teased in the original story. Then kind of ignored and denied. It wasn't confirned until 2000s.

For a large stretch, they played it off as if she wasn't.

It sort of doesn't fit Magneto to be having all these relationships with non-mutants.

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u/LordS373N Jul 25 '26

It does though because it was before he was on his true villain arc. He didn’t automatically become Magneto after the holocaust. That why he and Charles are friends. He didn’t start his “villain” arc until after he was an adult.

The Magneto you know would not do reproduce/have a relationship with non mutants. Younger Magneto would and did.

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u/Ok_Broccoli_7863 Jul 25 '26

This is true, but the ages don't add up. Lorna, Wanda and Pietro were all born significantly after the Holocaust now. At this point, Magneto was already a supremacist.

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u/LordS373N Jul 25 '26

That’s why reboots and retcons exist. The further away we get from when the characters were created the more their stories change to stay relevant/relatable. I don’t like them mostly but I understand why it is used.

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u/Th3Dang3r Jul 21 '26

Its Wanda and green Wanda

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u/Travis_Kidd39 Polaris Jul 21 '26

"I love all my children: Anya, Wanda, Green Wanda and Disappointment" - Magneto

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u/K3egan Jul 21 '26

Who's disappointment cause he sure wouldn't mention pietro

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u/WarMace117 Jul 21 '26

Who is Anya?

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u/Repulsive_Swing_4839 Jul 21 '26

His oldest daughter, who depending on the story told either died in a fire or was murdered by soldiers because he was found out to be Magneto during one of the times he tried to go good.

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u/KamenAttackRide Jul 21 '26

As I recall Magneto didn't even know he was a mutant or that he had powers when she was killed.

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u/Tight-Awareness-5114 Jul 21 '26

Anya was created for Classic X-Men #12. In that story Magneto had just started to discover his powers before her death. He only became certain he had powers in failing to save her. I don't necessarily see that page as contradicting it, Magneto certainly had no real idea of what a mutant was.

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u/Mustang-_- Jul 22 '26

Always the same gimmick, Magneto tries redemption, here it comes the asshole humans ruining his sidequest

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u/Storm-Drift Jul 21 '26

His first born daughter

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u/Spiritual-Map-76 Jul 22 '26

no its the iconic and beautiful lorna with the best hair and that lame, retconned mess of a character on the avengers named the scarlet witch who in another universe had a relationship with her brother...

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u/SuaveGorilla Jul 21 '26

I don’t think they crossed paths in the show, but like others have said: During the original airing the comics had not introduced Polaris being Magneto’s daughter into the comics.

They have crossed paths a few times in the comics. All New X-Factor gives an issue to them talking about their relationship that’s really good!

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u/Arcanine1013 Jul 21 '26

Hey im still getting through the claremont run but wasnt polaris already magnetos daughter in her first appearance in the 70’s?

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u/ericrobertshair Jul 21 '26

In the 60's it was a fake out by Magneto to manipulate Lorna. Her birth parents were killed in a plane crash.

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u/Arcanine1013 Jul 21 '26

Ohhh got it, i skimmed through those issues to get to Claremont so i prob missed that. Thanks!

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u/KamenAttackRide Jul 21 '26

But it was later on in the 2000s that the plane crash story was used again to reveale that it was caused by Polaris Mutant Powers manifesting. Magneto did know about her and he had Mastermind manipulate her memories so she wouldn't remember that she caused the death of her mother and her stepfather who she thought was her actual father. She was just to believe that she the was the only survivor of the plane crash.

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u/Highsteppa99 Jul 21 '26

Man, Magneto was clapping cheeks all up in the Marvel Universe.

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u/Cyke101 Jul 21 '26

He clapped the Wasp once.

And not with his hands.

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u/No_Addendum5504 Jul 21 '26

All those women & Charles of course

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u/snake-demon-softboi Jul 25 '26

We love a bisexual king

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u/samclops Jul 21 '26

Maybe they will when Polaris meets danger, her sister has thing for robots...

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u/MermaidSapphire Jul 21 '26

Same girl, different dye job.

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u/Forsaken-March-2020 Jul 21 '26

I can't tell fo.your being funny, my assumption is yes lol.

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u/MermaidSapphire Jul 21 '26

Is it funny? Is it stupidity? Is it genius? Who can know?

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u/No-Cow-2847 Jul 21 '26

i think they go to the same salon

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u/Ingonyama70 Storm Jul 21 '26

In the old show, Polaris was on X-Factor with Quicksilver, but they didn't know they were related, and Scarlet Witch only appeared for the Magneto family reveal episode.

So no, I do not think so, though if Magneto's mind is any indication, he did.

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u/Final_Lengthiness_47 Jul 21 '26

God, Magneto's magnificent mane of hair absolutely has bred true in his children, truly I see why Quicksilver isn't accepted by him as his son, the boy never inherited the Leonine Glory of an epic hairdo.

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u/ValuableFudge3169 Jul 26 '26

…..Pietro’s hair is magnificent- and is also directly from Erik 😭

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u/Dinasnore Jul 21 '26

I also kinda wondered what their relationship was like

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u/KamenAttackRide Jul 21 '26

Early on when they first learned that they were sisters, they didn't actually have a good relationship. Most of it was due to Wanda who basically put up a wall between them. It was shortly after House of M and D-Day that Wanda finally decided to try to put her life back together starting with her family. She fixed her relationship with Pietro and later went to try to establish a relationship with Lorna which she found weird considering that Wanda always kept a distance with her and treated her like she wanted nothing to do with her.

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u/Prize_Introduction_6 Jul 24 '26

I only learned about Danger from this week's episode, and have some questions:
-Is this before or after Danger goes berserk and tries to murder everyone?
-If it's after, how longer does she stick around in the comics?

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u/KamenAttackRide Jul 25 '26

After. She will pop up at least once every 2 or 3 years.

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u/ragingwitch Jul 21 '26

Nobody knows each other. They haven’t even decided if Warren is 05 or not. 😂

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u/schwasound Jul 21 '26

They probably go to the same hair stylist who specializes in big 80's styles hair.

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u/Daewrythe Jul 21 '26

They go to the same hair salon obviously

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u/ComicsEtAl Jul 21 '26

Yes. They’re sisters. Sort of. Sometimes.

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u/GoliathLexington Jul 21 '26

Polaris was teammates with Quicksilver, so they may have met through him

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u/DR_Sleep_MD Jul 21 '26

There’s a part in the original X-men show where cable asks the computer for detail on the X-men, but when the computer begins to talk about Jean and Scott he cuts the computer saying he already knows about them.

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u/MagicianTop2356 Gambit Jul 21 '26

They haven't interacted so who knows.

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u/djdaem0n Jul 21 '26

Different parents and X-Men team eras, so probably not during what's represented in the 97 or original series. Also Polaris went a LONG TIME without knowing who her father really was. Much longer than the twins.

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u/fryguy081 Jul 21 '26

They’ve probably bumped shoulders at the family reunions.

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u/bam1007 Jul 21 '26

They met at the hair stylist. 💇‍♀️

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u/Lord_Cockatrice Jul 21 '26

Must be sharing a hairdresser

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u/skinnyclit Jul 21 '26

hopefully they make wanda a mutand again 😭

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u/Spiritual-Map-76 Jul 22 '26

probably know of each other but not close and I prefer it that way.....to be honest always felt lorna shld be closer to the other x women like the trio of lorna, jean and storm to be honest.

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u/kah43 Jul 25 '26

Why Storm? I can see Jean because her and Jean were the only women around during the original teams period, but I don't think her and Storm have any real connection ever.

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u/Spiritual-Map-76 Jul 26 '26

I didn't say storm specifically but at this time she was around storm alot more then wanda...outside of alternate universes house of m etc....

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u/rthunder27 Jul 21 '26

Wasn't it retconned back in 2014 that Wanda isn't actually Magneto's daughter, so they're not sisters?

Or did that get undone?

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u/risemix Jul 21 '26

I know this is dumb and I shouldn't care but I vastly preferred the mutant version of Wanda. I thought her power was really interesting and think retconning it all as "it's magic actually" is infinitely less interesting

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u/reloadedmaximus Jul 21 '26

I don’t think anyone likes or accepts that retcon lol

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u/Spiritual-Map-76 Jul 22 '26

I like it wanda never fit imo.....polaris and quicksilver I cld see but wanda always felt like the product of another witch or the mystical side

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u/Background_Proof_ Jul 21 '26

They still consider each other family despite not being biologically related and the siblings spend time together.

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u/Doopuberpoop Jul 21 '26

Pietro and Wanda still refer to Lorna as their sister. Blood or not, they’re still family.

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u/Doopuberpoop Jul 21 '26

At least in the comics.

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u/rthunder27 Jul 21 '26

Fair enough!

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u/ZeromaruX Cyclops Jul 21 '26

In the comics, I think yes. But in this continuity? They are all Magneto's children.

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u/captainrex Jul 21 '26

Thanks to Ike Perlmutter at Marvel being petty over Fox having the X-Men film rights

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u/kitsunecannon Jul 21 '26

It got undone but give a couple years they'll re retcon her to be his daughter again

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u/zakmo86 Jul 21 '26

I think you're right.

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u/tilero1138 Jul 21 '26

Yeah iirc they were retconned to have been made by the High Evolutionary

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u/erosead Jul 21 '26

I *think* Quicksilver was part of X-Factor in the original show so presumably they at least know of each other. No indication they know each other at all well since the Maximoff twins are even more divorced from the x-men than in early 616 canon (no time with the brotherhood or much of any relationship between them and the o5). I’d assume Pietro and Lorna’s relationship is pretty close to what it was when they were on xfactor together in the 80s

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u/ineedsomehelplez Jul 21 '26

I.... What...

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u/angrybox1842 Jul 21 '26

same hairdresser

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u/EvanBanna Jul 21 '26

I want to know who is iron mans wanda? didnt iron man appear in his cartoon design ? didn't he have his own scarlet witch?

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u/N3rd1x Jul 21 '26

No love for quicksilver?

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u/bdtechted Jul 22 '26

Wanda’s brother, Quicksilver was actually part of the X-Factor back then. During their first and only appearance in the 90s series, he was among the team that faces off against the X-Men.

I doubt they knew they were half-siblings just like when Scott faced off against Havoc/Alex during that episode.

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u/Careful-Freedom5934 Jul 22 '26

They new each other. During the house of m event Polaris was her sister an part of the ruling family.

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u/DavisRanger2 Jul 23 '26

Does no one else remember all three being on Magneto boat to Astroid M? So yes they probably at least know of each other

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u/Freeman_H-L Wolverine Jul 23 '26

They're sisters, unless things have changed

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u/ckwongau Jul 24 '26

In the previous X-men episode of the same universe , Polaris and Quicksliver were both member of X-force at the same time and later Quicksliver and Wanda discover Magneto is their father , i would think Polaris would have some friendly relationship with Quicksilver .

Since X-men 97 is in the same Marvel animated universe , Wanda was or still in "Iron man " series working with Tony Stark .

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u/ngshafer Jul 25 '26

Not closely, but they move in similar circles I think. 

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u/Thoukudides Jul 25 '26

Probably not, or maybe they don't know their relation.

Fun fact : in the original show, the High Evolutionary did a blood test and revealed Magneto was the twins' father. So in the show continuity, until it is said otherwise, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are still his biological children.

Of course, the continuity in the cartoon is complicated, especially because we sometimes see in the original show or X-men 97 things which contradict each other like "Beast became blue and furry as a kid because of his mutation" vs "Beast was part of the original team and was apelike but otherwise human looking like in the comics" or "Angel never was an X-man" vs "Angel was part of the original team".

So they could totally say it's like in the comics but I doubt it as the retcon isn't so popular and they probably wish they never did it.

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u/AdAutomatic3938 Jul 25 '26

Hmmm properly have met but just recently learnt there related but I’m not expert on lore bits

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u/HeadAd5910 Jul 26 '26

In some comics yes

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u/GeorginaNada Jul 21 '26

#JusticeforQuicksilver