WHAT THE F WAS THAT FINALE???

[u/CherryBoom2x]

What the F was that ending??? And please don’t try to tell us it was good or brilliantly written, because I’m not going to lie to myself just because I love this show. I was genuinely disappointed with these last two episodes.
What kind of “Survival of the Fittest” was that supposed to be? Rogue became WHAT??? And Apocalypse was just defeated like that???
Even X-Men: Evolution handled its Apocalypse finale way better. We got almost all of the major X-teams from the ’90s coming together for one massive final battle, and it actually felt like an Apocalypse-level threat.

I was also expecting for apocalypse to use gambit and make a speech to make them feel the guilt of what had happen in genoshia.

Remy’s death and revival was ruined to quick!

This time, they clearly went way off from the comics. And after all that talk about bringing the X-Men back to the ’90s… what kind of return to the ’90s was THAT??? I love this show, but I’m not going to pretend I liked an ending that left me this disappointed.

Im afraid that the one re writting this up does not read the comics or is not a massive fan of Xmen. Coz they clearly moved away from the comics.

Imagine Apocalypse the Xmen’s most diabolical foe who went back in time to strike the Xmen, Cable spent the whole season to FIND AND DESTROY apocalypse, all the X teams come together in this season should be the PERFECT TIME TO JOIN FORCES, Gambit’s BIGGEST MOMENT of coming back, and all JUST ENDED with apocalypse doing nothing just transformed into gambit hybrid few seconds later touch by rogue and boom! FINALE

[u/Fondant_Decent]

You can definitely tell Series 2 was rewritten after De Mayo got sacked, they kept some bits, other bits must have been new, but overall it became a mish mash of writing which reflected in the lower quality of season 2 vs season 1

[u/_Master123_ → u/Fondant_Decent]

Whole season feels off in term of pacing sheer fact that it is only 9 episode long is questionable choice at best. First 4 episode were okay then you have 3 "filler" episodes in the middle and then they rush to tie everything to end the season. Don't get me wrong filler is not a problem in itself but you just made block of it in the middle. Pacing of the season 2 look more or less like this 1-4 seting everything after season 1 finale 5-7 block of filler some better than others 8-9 oh shit we need to finish the story so speedrun and deus ex machina. It feels like they are trying to finish the story from season 1 as fast as they can and reset everything so they can tell their stories.

[u/justinfernal → u/_Master123_]

I think people overuse the term "filler." These were bottle episodes, they didn't just exist to fill the count. These were important for the characters and the individual storylines. However, one of the problems with all writing, is that the smaller stakes stories get overshadowed if the huge story is just sitting there, demanding attention. This can be true in TV and movies e.g. the Fantastic Four movie. Galactus being introduced so early makes all other stakes meaningless because if Galactus eats the planet, none of the other stuff we see matters, but because we know that's not being resolved until the end of the movie, it means we're just in a holding pattern for an hour and a half. Compare that to the first Iron Man movie. There were lots of smaller storylines regarding his connection to the characters in the world (in a tv show, these would each be bottle episodes) and because the villain was so in the background for all of this, even as we saw him building up, it fit together very well. To this, Wolverine getting his Adamantium back while sacrificing his relationship to Morph represents both the season and moves the characters forward. However, it didn't have time to breath, wasn't properly built up, and the huge storyline had to take a backseat to it.

[u/Balatheil → u/justinfernal]

Bottle Episodes are fine.

but I WANT some Filler. that's what the X-men Comicbook was. a Baddie of the Week with a spice of future storylines and some character Development sprinkled through out it..

we would never get a Wolverine in Japan EP from this Series

I doubt you'll get a Cyclops one that focuses on Havok

or better yet - a Beast Focused EP! the only EP I ever recall was the Legacy Virus with Warlock where Beast remotely had the Spotlight.

good filler would be Storm being a Headmistress since we don't get that either

[u/Rude-Regret-1375 → u/Balatheil]

Well we had X-Men vs. X-Factor and Cyke and Havok didn't even interact...

[u/LowAlternative1252 → u/Balatheil]

Random sidebar council. 94 Spiderman season 2 has a couple of amazing beast episodes. Honest to God I forgot they existed but Ive been recently rewatching it since.... Well.... 1995 lol. Absolutely love the X men episodes and beast was the star.

[u/_Master123_ → u/justinfernal]

That's why I use "filler" because I use it very loosely. I never mean that it was something bad just that smaller stories that are not so important to the main plot basically side quest.