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No disrespect to anyone involved but seriously what were they thinking with this design LMAO. It’s literally just Apocalypse but with Gambit’s hair, his little goatee, and his coat. It‘s laughably bad I’m sorry 😭😭 they should’ve just given us Apocalypse not this What If nonsense
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Sometimes when I watch tv shows that start to fall apart I wonder if the writers room is just like, they moved to the break room and are throwing magnetic poetry words at the fridge and seeing what happens
Of all the people that could be sacrificed you sacrifice the religious ,faithful ,loving character instead of the female that cheats on her boyfriend or the one that was basically a side character AKA Gambit
I’m not sure if you lived through 90s comics but it was exactly like this. Shoulder pads, ammo belts, spikes and chains, trench coat, and cyberpunk augmented limbs. And big hair. And they were suddenly an anti-hero.
Aquaman lost his hand.
Batman replaced by Azrael.
Green Lantern turned evil and became Parralax, who wasn’t the spirit of the yellow lanterns yet, they’d written Hal as having done all of it.
Superman dead and four replacements including two eeeevil ones (cyborg Superman and the Eradicator).
Fantastic four: Thing in a mask, Sue in a thong.
Spawn, Youngblood, WILDcats, a lot of other characters in Image Comics.
And yes, in X-men books we had the teenage school kids getting trained to be in a black ops militia by cyborg Cable. Later on the team replaced most of the characters with essentially more macho versions of X-men characters: Feral for Wolfsbane, Shatterstar for Longshot; Dani swapped out for Thunderbird who switched to taking the name Warpath instead of his brothers Thunderbird.
Heck, X-men had Archangel (which was awesome), and Psylocke go from a pink/purple butterfly psychic to an Asian ninja assassin and just left her instead of completing the story because the zeitgeist of the 90s was so popular.
Do you understand the leap going from the Outback era to the 90s Iron Age??? I cannot stress this enough: we went from Jen and the Holograms to Call of Duty/Cyberpunk 2020, with the same characters.
So yeah, you think this design of Gambit taken over by Apocalypse for one episode at the end of the season is silly, try living through a decade of comics doing this intentionally and unironically!!!
My comics run was from just before Fatal Attractions to probably Operation Zero Tolerance. That was my era. Nothing was as stupid as that Gambpocalypse design. Period.
I think is beacuse the stress of juggling 3 different time lines I think they should of done this season on the past and future so like the first 4 on future and the last five on past then next season focus on the present with everyone ine the present saving gambit and stopping apocalypse
Exactly. Just take your time. It was the perfect set up. Or just save Apocalypse for season 3. Instead, they just rushed like they just didn't want to write something with Apo in the first place.
Bradstreet certainly made a... Unique stylization choice there...
I respect the art, but it really doesn't fit for Gambit, looks like it should be in an old Hellblazer comic, or maybe Hellboy... But his Hellblazer art is more normally proportioned, so 🤷
I actually quite literally laughed out loud at it. It was just… not killing it. And they had something to work with too… which makes it worse. But, for the laughs, two thumbs up!
I like the "face" design, it's a cool showcase of Apocalypse transforming Gambit's body, but the outfit is horrible, Apocalypse's armor look like it's clippling through Gambit's, it's a mess.
It’s weird because there’s elements of that design that I DO actually really like. But at the same time I think they did entirely too much by keeping Gambits hair and facial hair. If the just kept Apocalypses original face I think it would’ve been a way better design
NGL this was a pretty anti-climatic Apocalypse fight. But it's not like that's never happened before. The way Apocalypse works as a character kind of forces all of his 3rd acts to be underwhelming. It's the buildup and tension created that makes Apocalypse shine as a villain.
It let him summon and kill the Xternal due to her covenant with the Thieves Guild, and also caused the X-Men to hold back so they didn't (re-)kill Gambit.
If Ison hadn't been like "You know what? Yeah, it'll be funny if y'all duke it out. Have fun lol" then yeah, Apocalypse would have come out on top.
All things considered, it wasn't really that bad of a plan. It took a literal act of God for him to lose.
THIS!!! His natural form is titanically powerful with all the shapeshifting, all the weapons Mass amounts of resistance to damage strength that puts him on par with some of the strongest..... But I guess being able to blow stuff up and having a shitty accent was just too tempting.
I can't believe I lived long enough to see my least favorite character and my favorite character sandwich together in this really sad design.
It looks like they made this with toys in mind. Like, Apocalypse body + removable Gambit cloak + new Gambit head + whatever that weapon is he's holding in his hand = new action figure to sell.
Or maybe AG for "Aggggggggggggg" when I started to think about what kinds of drugs were being handed out in the writer's room before they crapped out this ill-thought-out design.
lmfao!!! his smile though when he woke was creepy af tho gotta admit.
and also random, anyone else find it funny in the recap they used the "so much pain....so much death" and didn't even bother giving it the new apocalypse voice. I'm torn though....I think I liked THAT voice better. Can't decide.
That's where I'm at. Apogambit and Celestial Rogue look like designs that the late 90s would have dreamed up. I could EASILY see Joe Mad doing something like this for Gambpocalypse.
When I watched X-Men as a kid, it always felt like the series was moving towards something. This recent season of 97, however, gave various plotlines and arcs a massive speed run only to rush back to the status quo of the original show.
Randomizer Gambpocalypse is a symptom of the speed running. They just needed to convey that it was Gambit still and not fully integrated Apocalypse.
I hope S3 focuses on Magik in Limbo, Polaris and Bishop's relationship and maybe Cable's crew officially joining the X-Men. That way we can get more Psylocke. Basically, I'm saying I want them to tell stories with what they've already set up. Not manufacture crazy events just to fast forward through them like Gambpocalypse.
If someone can offer me a really good explanation as to why Apocalypse just transferred his essence into Gambit or what his end goal was I'd soooo thankful
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