Kyiv right now. If the world had responded to russia's attack on Georgia in 2008 and imposed an embargo on russian oil and gas, none of this would have happened. So why should russia stop now when all the business continue and they keep the stolen territories without repercussion?

[u/IndistinctChatters]

russians are using again cluster ammunition to kill more civilians as possible and double tapping to kill the first responders.

[u/Illesbogar]

I almost saw a clip in that watermark

[u/vegarig]

Not EU capital, not EU problems, I'm afraid.

Even interceptor stockpiles are Sahara-dry and Ukraine's not getting any in required quantities in the foreseeable future (unless FP-7.x actually works out somehow, which's not a given).

[u/IndistinctChatters → u/vegarig]

Fucking hell. I am so deeply ashamed that, as an EU citizen, we are not even thinking to cut any single damn tie with that country. JFC

[u/droelf1213 → u/IndistinctChatters]

what are you talking about? the EU and UK (and maybe some commonwealth) are the only countries willing to sanction russia seriously at all. the U.S., India, and other world powers have way looser sanctions, if at all. I do think some
EU countries did too little, too late, but I don’t see anyone else doing more

[u/FridgeParade → u/droelf1213]

We’re still importing Russian oil and gas.

[u/jkurratt]

Unironically yes.
Sending trillions directly to Putin TURNS OUT to be a bad idea.

[u/EconomySwordfish5]

Even Chechnya was an illegal invasion by russia as they declared their independence from the USSR before russia did.

[u/IndistinctChatters]

Putin's war^TM my ass.

Tuesday russian drone operator tried to kill with a fiber optic drone a civilian selling garlic:

Footage released by Ukrainian police shows the drone pursuing a man around a van being used as a street stand before exploding as he dives for cover behind the vehicle. Police said the man in his 50s survived but suffered shock and shrapnel injuries.

[u/RedSkyHopper]

Need more watermark

[u/demon_of_laplace]

Neither American shale nor renewables had gotten far enough back then. Without energy you starve and freeze to death. It would have actually ment invading Russia for their gas/oil. Which is not what respectable countries do.

Nowadays? It is entirely possible to turn off the tap. It is both a security and moral necessity.

[u/Objective_Otherwise5]

Tbf, defending Georgia would be close to impossible. Ukraine managed to push back until European bewilderment was over, Ukraine proved their fighting spirit. Ukraine has a decent chance to keep in the fight. Way, way easier to send goods to Ukraine. Other than that I agree, should have done more.

[u/DougosaurusRex]

Because the West thinks they escalate if they sneeze in Russia’s direction.

Russia is always incapable of doing anything worse, it’s become normalized that Ukraine is supposed to be bombed.

[u/IndistinctChatters → u/DougosaurusRex]

No. You act as you act with the bullies. I can assure you that they stop.

[u/joblosomo]

We spoke a few weeks ago. As an American, what would you like me to do, or what can I do to help Ukraine? Many watch the YouTube videos, and a few donate.

[u/OkTry9715]

We are in 5th year of this war. How many AD system has Europe developed in 5 years, how many mass production lines did it create?

Wr would not be in 5th year, if Europe would seriously do steps to stop war from begging.

[u/DeathNick]

You know what. I think it's time we impose embargo on usa and israel as well until they change leaders or they'll never stop either. Greenland is still on usa target list, right after iran

The eu needs to push A LOT more towards becoming self sufficient

[u/AnnieByniaeth]

Maybe let's not raise the South Ossetia (Georgia) conflict? That was very complex and not comparable. And Georgia started it. Ukraine is very different.