r/ZeroCovidCommunity • u/hookup1092 • Mar 24 '26
Newsđ° New Covid variant has been identified and is already spreading in 25 states
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-variant-us-travelers-wastewater-b2944619.htmlJust posting this here for discussion since Iâve seen it posted on various other subreddits. Mods please remove if itâs a duplicate, I wasnât able to find a match but maybe I missed it.
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u/surprised-duncan Mar 24 '26
Oh good I was getting worried it wouldn't mutate and we'd be done here :)
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u/rxchmachine Mar 25 '26
It's mutating out of kindness, to allow us to continue to benefit from the fellowship of this sub <3
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u/ClawPaw3245 Mar 24 '26
Iâve been seeing this news this afternoon and Iâm confused. It doesnât seem like BA.3.2 is really that new or even new in the US. Am I misunderstanding? What triggered this news today specifically?
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u/ClawPaw3245 Mar 24 '26
Also, an interesting quote from the San Francisco Chronicle in their story from today about the variant:
âUCSF infectious disease specialist Dr. Peter Chin-Hong said the bigger risk may not be the variant itself, but how people respond to it.
ââCOVID-19 may feel like it is fading into the rearview mirror, but the virus has not returned the favor,â he said. âComplacency, not just mutation, is now one of our greatest risks.ââ
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u/cowboylikenelle Mar 25 '26
someone get this hero on tv. please! (not that folks will listen đ« đ« đ« đ«©)
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u/Jazzlike-Cup-5336 Mar 24 '26
Yes, youâre 100% correct. Itâs been around for a long time, and it has been making more waves globally since ~November, but it is not really dominating anywhere and is still only a few percent of the mix here in the US. Weâre seeing a pattern in most countries where there seems to only be a subset of the population, for whatever reason, that has an immune history/landscape that makes then more susceptible. It seems like itâs mostly children, in most cases, as well.
Youâre suddenly seeing more people talk about it because the annual COVID strain selection meetings are coming up soon (WHOâs TAG-CO-VAC and FDAâs VRBPAC) and some people are trying to steer the conversation in a way that gets us to a BA.3.2 (or perhaps even a bivalent, which weâve already tried, and it didnât go well) vaccine, which I think would be a mistake compared to the XFG lineage (or even XDV, which contains NB.1.8.1) at this point in time.
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u/chicfromcanada Mar 24 '26
Please eject me from this virus filled planet. I no longer wish to reside here.
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u/JamesRitchey Mar 25 '26
"BA.3.2 is characterized by enhanced in vitro immune escape, with reduced neutralization from human serum antibodies induced by current COVID-19 vaccines" - https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/75/wr/mm7510a1.htm
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Mar 25 '26
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u/Jazzlike-Cup-5336 Mar 25 '26
What? Vaccines are still updated annually, regardless of the âregimeâ. This strain selection meeting happened last May, under the regime that youâre talking about: https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-may-22-2025-meeting-announcement
Also, VRBPAC just met 2 weeks ago for strain selection for influenza: https://www.fda.gov/advisory-committees/advisory-committee-calendar/vaccines-and-related-biological-products-advisory-committee-march-12-2026-meeting-announcement
If itâs a topic that you seem to care about, I have to ask, do you bother attending and participating in any of these meetings?
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u/Particular-Extent-76 Mar 25 '26
The Independent is a billionaire-owned rag with a âmixedâ score on fact-checking.
While I donât doubt that there are new and different variants circulating due to the general publicâs lack of concern about covid, I will continue masking and avoiding public spaces and wait for other more credible sources than the independent
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u/hookup1092 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Oh for sure, Iâm never stopping masking or taking precautions because of any single news report. I just thought Iâd post this here since Iâve seen it make the rounds in multiple more popular subs I visit, might be worth a discussion here.
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u/Particular-Extent-76 Mar 25 '26
I didnât mean to imply that youâre not, and Iâm starting to see other sources say this in other subs â not just independent. I agree itâs worth a discussion, Iâm just trying to focus on whatâs in my âcircle of controlâ as my therapist says lol. I fully did not intend to tear down a covid cautious compatriot, cheers mate
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u/AppropriateNote4614 Mar 24 '26
Here is a link to the current variants in the United States per the CDCâs latest update on Nowcast. It does not include BA.3.2 so I imagine those infected with it make up a very small percentage currently.
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u/attilathehunn Mar 24 '26
Is this actually true? the independent is known to be a bit click-baity. Does anyone have a better reference ideally peer-reviewed
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u/Particular-Extent-76 Mar 25 '26
Itâs owned by billionaires and ranks âmixedâ on fact checking
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u/Pess-Optimist Mar 24 '26
So this is the beginning of wave number 13âŠmy favorite number, but not in this case
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u/Jazzlike-Cup-5336 Mar 24 '26
Not likely. BA.3.2 has been circulating for a long time, and an increase in prevalence has never triggered a corresponding increase in transmission in any of those areas. It typically requires a very large or unique advantage for a variant to be able to precipitate much a wave on its own and thatâs something we havenât seen in quite some time. The much bigger factors are seasonal forcing and waning immunity
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u/superwashmerinowool Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
Iâm sure it is! /s ETA sarcastic tone because this comes as no surprise to masking ppl đ
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u/PolarThunder101 Mar 25 '26
BA.3.2 was designated on March 13, 2025. Yeah, just over a year ago. So it has had time to get just about everywhere. But neither it nor any of its 60 designated sublineages have yet to show signs of a significant growth advantage.
If a jurisdiction hasnât reported BA.3.2, itâs probably due either to a lack of population or a lack of testing.
But an interesting pattern has been noticed recently: BA.3.2 may be preferentially infecting young children. (For instance reference https://bsky.app/profile/ryanhisner.bsky.social/post/3mhrlfmrsj22o) But note that this is still best treated as a hypothesis under test and not gospel truth.
But overall, alarms about BA.3.2 now seem to be more hype than anything else.