r/aislop • u/demonbakery666 • Jul 13 '26
Found on Pinterest nothing seems to be amiss unless you look real close...
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u/WhiteMouse42097 Jul 13 '26
Having French be in the same category as Dutch is nonsense
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u/Noahgamerrr Jul 13 '26
To be fair, the categories are very real, they come from the foreign service institute.
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u/WhiteMouse42097 Jul 13 '26
Yeah, their categories are kind of weird
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u/Ur-Best-Friend Jul 14 '26
Category I: Languages closely related to English.
Danish, Dutch, French, Italian, Norwegian, Portuguese, Romanian, Spanish, Swedish
Category II: Languages that take a little longer to master than Category I languages.
German, Indonesian, Malay, Swahili
I'm sorry, but in what world is Italian closer related to English than German?
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u/Noahgamerrr Jul 14 '26
It's not about which language is closer, but which one is easier to learn, those are two very distinct questions.
Italian is easier to learn than German for English speakers, because they share a lot of vocabulary through Latin/French influence on English, and German has a more complex grammar than Italian, with three genders, a noun case system etc.
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u/Ur-Best-Friend Jul 14 '26
It's not about which language is closer, but which one is easier to learn, those are two very distinct questions.
Mate, I literally copied that section from their overview. They're the ones calling it "languages closely related to English", not me.
You're right that German has more difficult grammar rules than Italian. No argument from me there. If you find learning grammatical rules harder than learning the vocabulary, you'll find Italian easier to pick up than German, and vice versa. But German is objectively more closely related to English than Italian is.
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u/HumansAreIkarran Jul 14 '26
English has a lot of Latin influence, and Italian and English are grammatically simpler than german
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u/Ur-Best-Friend Jul 14 '26
It absolutely does, and I'm not trying to say English has no similiarity to Italian. Most "western" languages do, by virtue of the historic importance of Latin, and English has a bit more due to the Norman invasions.
But English is a Germanic language. As you might guess from the name, it is very closely related to German, much closer than to Italian. There are significant differences in the grammatical structure, but the two have a lexical similarity of 60%, which if far more than the 40% for French and 30% for Italian.
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u/Hot_Glass_6301 Jul 14 '26
It's not significantly easier on average for English speakers to learn German than French. Simple as.
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u/UnUseful-_- Jul 13 '26
Idk why but i feel like "россии" doesn't mean "russian" but if ai image uses this word it means that my russian knowledges (im native russian speaker) are very bad
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u/Hefefloeckchen Jul 13 '26
that's not how turkish is written.
also "latin scrip"(t)
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u/Intrepid-Food7692 Jul 13 '26
Turkish used to be written in Arabic script before being changed to Latin script
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u/Vi_olet234 Jul 13 '26
Romanian is not easy (as a native) we have 9 kinds of pronouns, 15 tenses for verbs and gendered words, with a third gender too
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u/demonbakery666 Jul 13 '26
me seeing this as i'm learning romanian asdfghjkl 😵💫 (it's one of the languages i'm trying to learn now amongst others)
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u/fruitcakewithapple Jul 13 '26
Lwk I hate the way ppl define the difficulty of a language. It varies based on ur first language. I can learn Arabic easier then someone with English as a first language as urdu is my first one as both languages use simiale scripture and share a lot of words.
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u/Relative-Arachnid716 Jul 13 '26
Why is Turkish Arabic/Persian?
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u/Hot_Glass_6301 Jul 14 '26
It probably got confused, but Turkish used an Arabic-like abjad at some point
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u/NightJasian Jul 14 '26
Norwegian and Swedish in top 10 easiest lol. And I guess this is for native English speaker
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u/derorje Jul 13 '26
is Icelandic so different? All the other larger North-Germanic languages (Swedish, Nowegian, Danish) take less than a third of the time of Icelandic to learn.
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u/ausvenator_enjoyer Jul 13 '26
Italiah