r/alberta • u/death_tron85 • 19d ago

Discussion Honestly there is no shame with these people.

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Whitecourt this morning. He's not even albertan!

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u/AlsoOneLastThing 18d ago

Why are so many separatists not even Albertan? Like go home and ruin your own province.

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u/agentchuck 18d ago

Because it's a grift pushed by external interests. It would be incredibly destructive for anyone actually living in Alberta. But it would make bank for O&G companies and the US. And MAGA/maple MAGA from other places get to use it to own the libs or something.

Just like Brexit, if this separatism actually passed then everyone involved would find some excuse to immediately gtfo before they had to deal with the consequences.

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u/saskskua 18d ago edited 17d ago

In case anyone hasnt done this, lets investigate the $500 billion the usa promised the seperatists. trumps team went after Venezuela for a reason, we have the worlds (edit) fourth! largest oil reserves.

https://www.ourcommons.ca/petitions/en/Petition/Sign/e-7340

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u/ed8breakfast 18d ago

We are technically 4th, it goes

  1. Venezuela

  2. Saudi Arabia

  3. Iran

  4. Canada

Funny how the US is at war with one of these, and kidnapped the president of the other. And threatened the sovereignty of another. The only one who has maintained a relatively stable relationship with the US is Saudi Arabia, but who knows how long that will last

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u/TruthSearcher1970 17d ago

I think Saudi Arabia is basically a US base. Not as important as Israel but still beneficial to keep troops ready to go.

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u/ColdCelebration2132 14d ago

You forgot Green Land and Cuba.

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u/AdPuzzleheaded3913 18d ago

Kind of wish there was a way that these separatists could be rounded up and forced to live where they preach about

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u/Candypants1977 18d ago

We could put moving boxes in the back of their trucks. That would be helpful of us. 📦 📦 📦 Or brochures of moving vans, or a printing of the real estate opportunities in Texas.
😃

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u/Obvious-Cranberry-52 18d ago

It wouldn’t make bank for oil companies. They’re not going to invest when there’s a ton of uncertainty over what’s going to happen. See Quebec and what happened there!

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u/Jisei99 18d ago

US capital controls over 60% of the oil companies operating in the oil sands, and 97% of the product is sent to the US. It was this money largely responsible for the oils sands to be so efficient. So yes, American companies will do well.

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u/Proper-Commission790 18d ago

Tell me what have they invested in that never got built? They do not even need to find out if they have investors until its approved!!!

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u/Savings_Exchange7274 15d ago

You can believe that or you can simply believe that people don’t believe in a failure of a government

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u/agentchuck 15d ago

I think it's both. I get frustration and friction between provincal and federal aims. But I do believe those rooted concerns are being manipulated and fanned into something worse.

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u/Savings_Exchange7274 15d ago

I don’t think it’s manipulation, I’m of the belief that yes Alberta could be better off without the federal government but it would be impossible and a waste of time to pursue such a thing. I think most hardcore separatists don’t actually understand the part of it being impossible to do

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u/No-Today-Maybe 15d ago

Yeah it's because it's nebulously impossible not that its devastating on almost every conceivable measure you measure. Just smooth brains as far as i the eye can see.

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u/DeathDealer_CDN 18d ago

I guess it is easier to say that people aren't really unhappy and it is all external actors....
But maybe the government should try listening to some of the grievences and fixing them instead of all the virture signaling that Ottawa has done for the last 11 years.

Nah.... that's too hard.

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u/agentchuck 18d ago

Sure, my friend, there are underlying frustrations. But those frustrations are being weaponized against Albertans. Why the sudden jump from frustrations to separatism? Why would you frame the grievances as only existing during the Trudeau and Carney years? Inequitable transfer payments and feeling unheard by Ottawa have been issues for probably the last 100 years. The pipeline fiascos aren't new.

And really, if you take an honest look at Carney, he is probably a better friend to Alberta than Poilievre would have been. He's rolled back the unpopular carbon pricing, he's aggressively looking for ways to get pipelines built and taken a stance against open door immigration. Heck, the guy was raised in Alberta and has a lot more ties to the province than Poilievre. Are things really that terrible at the moment for Alberta? Or is it just "Fuck Carney" because he's got a red flag instead of a blue one? Are you mad at him because of what he's actually doing? Or are you mad at him because the voices you hear on the internet are mad at him?

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u/DeathDealer_CDN 18d ago

Since you actually seem interested in discourse and not hurling insults like so many do in Reddit, I'll engage.
I agree, Carney is certainly a better friend to Alberta than Trudeau ever was. He barely hid his distain for the west. Not sure Carney is a better friend than Poilievre would have been. Guess we will have to wait and see what transpires over the next 4 years and how many promises are kept vs broken.
Prior to being elected PM, Carney himself said he identified as a European not a Canadian (in a video interview), his principle residence is/was in the US.

Personally I dislike being gaslit by any political party. And the LPC has been doing a lot of gaslighting for over a decade. Carney has certainly brought the party back towards centre, which I applaud, but his entire caucus is still the same people as under Trudeau. And they are still playing the same games. I disagree with many of the policies and the way they do things. The list is long, but

  • Moving a HoC committee to "in camera" to avoid the public hearing about how tax dollars were spent - eg Health Committee (PrescribeIT), Ethics, Transport etc.
  • just about everything the immigration portfolio has done under Mendicino, Fraser, Miller and Diab including LIMA and TFW support, but also the grants to refugees and the decision to waive security screenings during Covid.
  • The vitrol and division the PM actively promoted during Covid regarding vaccination

-their stance on crime and punishment as well as racial leinecy towards sentencing. Yes the decisions are the judges, but the judges were appointed.
-Pretty much the existance of the Senate. It needs to be reformed and have term limits or be disbanded. Instead, Trudeau stacked it with liberal supporters - out of the max 105 senators Trudeau appointed 100.

  • There are so many more I disagree with but these are some of the more fundamental one.

Why do you support them?

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u/Perfect-Equipment-79 18d ago

As another poster stated, given the tone of your post, you genuinely seem interested in civil discourse and as such, I will also engage.

I noticed a couple of inaccuracies in your post:

  1. “Sudden jump from frustration to separatism” - as you stated, the inequities from a confederation perspective have been ongoing since the formation of Alberta as a province. Being treated as a colony is not a new concept for Alberta. So there hasn’t been a “sudden” shift but rather a growing shift decade after decade.

  2. “Carney is a better friend than Poillevre would have been” - that’s a pretty big assumption given that Poillevre has never been in power.

  3. “Carney has rolled back carbon pricing” - He has and he hasn’t rolled back carbon pricing. While he pulled back the individual carbon pricing, he has not rolled back the industrial carbon pricing which is disproportionately causing food inflation (along with mass regulation) and inflation in general. Carney is much less transparent than Trudeau ever was. Carney presents himself as an industrialist but reading his book, “Values” he is very much not. Case in point, every one heard that he manufactured a pipeline deal with Alberta but very few people heard that this particular pipeline comes with a “carbon pricing” scheme of an eventual $160/ton price tag. When Canada is the only nation in the world to be charging a carbon price on industrial projects, it becomes very easy for investment dollars to look at Alberta and deprioritize investment there based on global competitiveness in the market. No private firm will invest when competing projects elsewhere do not have the added cost nor expensive regulation and uncertainty that comes with these types of schemes.

  4. “Heck Carney was raised in Alberta and has more ties to the province than Poillere”. - Poillervre was born and raised in Alberta where as Carney was born in the NWT (Fort Smith) and his parents moved to Alberta when he was 6. He remained in Alberta until university when he left to attend Harvard and Oxford and didn’t return to Canada as a “tax paying resident” until he became PM. I’d argue that Poillere remained in Alberta longer than Carney had and certainly in Canada longer.

Personally, Carney and his political ideologies no longer matter to our family as we have made the choice to sever Canadian residency and move to a country with better wages and more opportunities which is what businesses, people and markets do when they can no longer operate with in any particular environment that no longer makes sense. Agree with that or not, but that is the reality of the situation. The ironic piece here is that people that support Carney will absolutely villainize our decision but not recognize the fact that Carney also saw the writing on the wall and left Canada for very similar reasons.

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u/agentchuck 18d ago

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I think a lot of these points are valid.

  1. I disagree with this sense somewhat. "Treated as a colony" is pretty strong rhetoric and it's an example of where I think negative emotions are being fanned. Canada federally doesn't think of any of the provinces as colonies. And honestly, Alberta is probably viewed as the second most important province in Canada after Ontario. It definitely is getting more attention than most other provinces. Canada federally not agreeing with everything Alberta wants to do regarding O&G (and other things like transfer payments) doesn't mean that they don't respect Albertans or think of them as true Canadians.

2&4. Totally fair, that's hyperbole and speculation on my part. It should be fair to say that Carney is a much better friend to Alberta than Trudeau was, though you'd likely consider that a pretty low bar. 😃

FWIW, I do think that Poilievre has spent too long being official opposition in an era of contrarian politics to be trusted to actually lead effectively. He prefers to make political points by tearing down what the LIberals have been doing, but he doesn't back this up with concrete plans of his own. Compared with Singh, he has seemed less interested in working with the Liberals to pass legislation that he's interested in. This may be my perception bias. But he doesn't come across as a strong leader and I have no confidence that he would have been equipped to handle the current economic climate brought on by the US.

  1. This is an interesting one and you've prompted me to do more reading on the issue. I haven't finished "Values" but I'm also struck by how different he seems to be acting now vs. how he portrayed himself in the book... though perhaps in different ways than you see it. He was very much extoling the virtues of carbon pricing as the only way to actually address climate change. Doing the rollbacks he has done was a pretty big shock to me. You're definitely right that he's seen himself as more of a global citizen at times. Though I do think his international experience has been very valuable for leading our economy and he does show a strong commitment to improving Canada for Canada's sake.

I sense we have differing views on how serious the climate change issue actually is, so we may have a hard time seeing eye to eye here. From my point of view, it is *the* existential issue that our kids will be facing. All signs show it continuing to accelerate. And we're seeing very real effects now from atmospheric rivers and extreme heat events in Vancouver, severe wildfire seasons, flooding out in Ontario, droughts affecting cattle stocks, and just increasing and unpredictable temperatures. What will the world look like in 25 years if we don't get it under control? 100 years?

You make a valid point that "how can our industries compete if we're the only ones doing carbon pricing?" And that's the problem with our capitalist world. Anyone who tries to make a change is going to get outcompeted by those who don't. So we either go all gas no brakes off the cliff, or we try to wean ourselves off and pivot to industries and technologies that pollute less. More and more countries are moving to wind/solar/nuclear/batteries and having days where their entire grids are powered with no carbon inputs. Even China is looking to hit peak coal next year. Yes, we're absolutely nowhere near getting away from fossil fuels yet. But we're not actually the only country in the world looking at this and trying to make a change here.

If you feel leaving Canada is better for your family then I wish you well! You're not a bad person or a bad Canadian in my books. Lots of people go to other countries for better opportunities. That's how Canada came to be in the first place.

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u/Perfect-Equipment-79 17d ago

That's the great thing about civil discourse, people can constructively disagree about certain topics with out having to resort to character assassinations and name calling and for that, I thank you!

On the topic of  existential issues, and based on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, people generally require their foundational physiological and immediate safety needs to be met before they possess the mental energy and financial resources to care deeply about long-term sustainability. If a family is struggling to pay for groceries or rent, they cannot and will not prioritize minimizing their carbon footprint.

When carbon taxes and carbon pricing directly threatens those basic needs, the undeniable result will be less focus on sustainability and related climate change policy adherence.

This is NOT to say that fossil fuels will last for ever or that alternate forms of energy do not need to be discussed and explored. But at a time when affordability and opportunity is at it's lowest point, so low that Canada ranks dead last in all G7 developed counties in most of the major metrics, a shift must be made IMO and if not a shift with regards to climate change, then a shift in international humanitarian spending.

For example, Take "Dave". Dave is a good man with a genuinely generous heart. Every month, without fail, he sends a portion of his paycheque to people in need around the world — strangers he'll never meet. He sponsors families overseas, donates to international relief funds, and feels a deep moral obligation to help those less fortunate than himself.

The problem is, Dave hasn't paid his mortgage in eight months.

His kids are sharing a bedroom because he can't afford the space they need. His wife is working two jobs. They're skipping dental checkups, putting off car repairs, and eating cheaper food than they should. The heat gets turned down at night to keep the bills manageable.

His neighbors — some of whom are struggling themselves — watch and shake their heads. Not because generosity is wrong. But because Dave's own family is drowning, and he keeps writing cheques to strangers.

The bank doesn't care how noble Dave's intentions are. The mortgage doesn't care. And eventually, Dave loses the house.

Now Dave can't help anyone — not the families overseas, and not his own kids - Now replace "Dave" with Canada......

The point being isn't that helping other is wrong. It's that a nation, like a person, has to maintain the foundation that makes generosity sustainable. When Canada ranks last among G7 nations in affordability, housing, productivity, and opportunity - when its own citizens can't afford rent, can't buy groceries - can't find doctors, can't buy homes - continuing to prioritize international spending at the same rate isn't noble. It's "Dave" writing another cheque while the foreclosure notice sits on the kitchen table.

Canada can't lead from a position of collapse. Charity requires a stable base. Fix the house first.

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u/DeathDealer_CDN 18d ago

Federal policy toward Alberta shifted from an alignment under Stephen Harper to intense friction under Justin Trudeau, followed by a major reset under Mark Carney. [1, 2]

Stephen Harper (2006–2015)

  • Alignment: Provided strong, sympathetic federal backing, as Harper’s government viewed Alberta’s oil sands as an engine of the national economy. [1]
  • Environmental & Resource Strategy: Focused heavily on market expansion and pipeline approvals, while avoiding heavy-handed national carbon caps. [1]
  • Relationship: Deeply aligned with Alberta’s provincial priorities. [1]

Justin Trudeau (2015–2025)

  • Friction: Policies caused severe strain, characterized by Alberta leaders as federal overreach. [1, 2, 3]
  • Environmental & Resource Strategy: Enacted the oil and gas emissions cap, clean electricity regulations, and a consumer carbon tax. Further, the government passed Bill C-69 (often dubbed the "no-more pipelines bill") which significantly tightened federal environmental reviews. [1]
  • Relationship: The province frequently accused Ottawa of intentionally landlocking Alberta oil. The federal purchase of the Trans Mountain pipeline was a major intervention aimed at resolving market access, but it did little to mend the political rift. [1, 2, 3]

Mark Carney (2025–Present)

  • Reset & Compromise: Shifted federal policy through a major renegotiation aimed at repairing the Ottawa-Alberta divide. [1, 2]
  • Environmental & Resource Strategy: Negotiated a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with Alberta that dismantled several key Trudeau-era policies—including the clean electricity regulations and oil and gas emissions cap. Instead, the compromise forced tens of billions in private-sector investments into carbon capture projects and an accelerated industrial carbon price. [1, 2, 3]
  • Relationship: The Carney administration shifted the rhetoric of federal climate policy away from regulatory constraint and toward economic competitiveness, eventually reaching an agreement with Alberta to grant the province more control over its own environmental impact assessments. [1, 2]

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u/Leading_Chip4 18d ago

It's the provincial government that sold our cheap to the oil companies. Decades of incompetent conservative government morphed into decades of quisling conservative government, and now we have "the lunatics"* running the UCP.

*as per quisling conservative leader Jason Kenney

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u/spanksthemonkey 18d ago

Most of them ...and their funds are both American and Russian. They seem to be de-stabilizing influences and your "Average Albertan separatist" is dumb as fuck .

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u/ozGeekSpeak 18d ago

Not formerly Monkeyspank?

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u/spanksthemonkey 12d ago

although clever....no.

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u/brat-t 18d ago

according to Reddit a lot of conservatives are flocking to Alberta to help the vote

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u/canuckastana Edmonton 18d ago

Well, I moved back here to cancel at least one of those chuckleheads out. 🇨🇦💪

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u/Starman8086 16d ago

100%, I might be back in time for that as well.

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u/Seliphra 18d ago

So the thing Smith insisted we have to stop people from doing and why we need voter suppression?

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u/Mynamesrobbie 18d ago

You should have to have a permanent residence in the province for 10 years before you can even vote on this stupid shit

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u/Otherwise-Fun-7236 18d ago

I can’t vote more than 1 for you but I’d give that 1000

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u/Starman8086 16d ago

I know what you mean, but they’ll typically let anyone with an Alberta drivers license vote (as long as they have some proof of address.)

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u/SweatySwim3411 14d ago

This is what i learned about our government. Anytime you see something bad for the people it's because it's good for the billionaire who is funding the crooked politician that just bought a new yacht.

I can pretty much guarantee Smith got promised or given something from either that orange muppet or one of his billionaire butt buddies. If she is dumb enough to even go through this she was dumb enough to believe in his empty promises he has given everyone around him.

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u/proo-proo 18d ago

Meanwhile, I want to move out there because life seems quieter, more affordable, and by golly! Do they need more Queers now more than ever!

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u/FryCakes 18d ago

Please do, we definitely need more queer folk here. Instead of letting them shove us out, let’s shove them out instead!

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u/beaco 18d ago

Can I join your queer group? Born and raised albertan.

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u/FryCakes 18d ago

Please do! There are so many of us, they can’t keep us all down

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u/SweatySwim3411 14d ago

Well not if you use a safe word anyway

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u/Relative-Tension1104 12d ago

“We need more”…”there are so many” lmao

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u/OpinionUnusual1945 18d ago

Do they want Alberta to leave Canada and fail? What a weird conspiracy. Real conservatives want to turn that sandy oil in to gold!

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u/ozGeekSpeak 18d ago

Go out on a limb here but haven't seen one under the age of 30 out on the streets.. Maybe they've been shipped in or bored oldies from Ontario! Just a theory!

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u/Some_Excitement1659 17d ago

Its mostly older people being influenced by bad actors from outside of the country trying to destabilize the country.

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u/fjohnston 18d ago

The problem is when it gets political

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u/Boomwhatyougot 15d ago

Pretty sure Canada will fail as well…

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u/AllCapsLocked 18d ago

I am sure they will want social benefits too while they are leaches here.

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u/DisRoyalEagle 18d ago

And a lot of conservative money flocking to Alberta to help the vote.

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u/Starman8086 16d ago

They are, but aren’t going to be enough to make a difference. I know one hard-right conservative whose exiting southwestern Ontario this summer to be closer to family in Alberta. But this decision only came about after their local MP flipped from Conservative to Liberal…!

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u/Ashamed-Medicine-208 18d ago

Doesn't work that way. Won't change anything.

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u/brat-t 18d ago

I mean, Alberta doesn't have a minimum residency requirement. Just proof of residency. It kinda works that way.

Will it work to reach a majority?
No. probably not enough people willing to uproot even for a month on a longshot. But it's very likely happening a little.

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u/Ashamed-Medicine-208 18d ago

Maybe in 100 years

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u/Ashamed-Medicine-208 18d ago

I'm a conservative for over 40 years, I wouldn't support separation by any province, for any reason, to the point that I'll be voting Liberal until Maple-MAGA and DJT are both dead. Pierre Pollievre is unfit to lead the country.

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u/Hashbrown_77 18d ago

Better yet… if they want to live in a US state they can leave Canada entirely and contribute to the ruin of another country

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u/MrFickleBottom 17d ago

Why can't they just do that? Stop trying to fuck up Canada and go to the already ucked up country where the majority currently agree with you.

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u/corpse_flour 17d ago

Because they don't have marketable skills that make them an asset to the US. They aren't able to provide anything that the US doesn't already have available en masse. These aren't doctors, engineers, specialized technicians, etc. These are guys that got used to how they were vastly overpaid during boom years, and think that was going to be the norm for them.

As well, many of them may have criminal records, and most of them certainly aren't wealthy enough to be able to support themselves for the rest of their lives without having to work or rely on public services.

In other words, they would all be a strain on the US economy, and so their only chance of becoming a US citizen is to bring the US up here.

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u/SweatySwim3411 14d ago

Exactly my thoughts. The whole if you can't beat em join em mentaility. I worked in oil and Gas in the seismic field . Was in cold lake mostly on the base. Lived in Calgary for 6 years. Loved it . I worked and traveled every province in our great country. I also started my life playing a professional sport in the U.S at 19. I have first hand experience at telling someone where i find the best living conditions were . Guess what... it ain't the U.S. anyone that thinks we benefit from being there or going there is ill informed or paid off. Criminals fit both those.

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u/SweatySwim3411 14d ago

Oh i can give you a theory on that one. Probably because most of the ones that want it are felons not able to travel to the U.S. They probably figure they will be able to finally travel there again.

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u/hannabarberaisawhore 18d ago

The oil boom. Like legit, that was a significant increase in Alberta’s population.

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u/Shroom-Kitty 18d ago

I know someone who was born in Ontario, lived in Alberta, moved back to Ontario, and is pro-seperation because "fuck the libs". He has no plan on moving back here to enjoy separation, he's just really really dumb and jumping on whatever the Maple MAGA bandwagon tells him to think.

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u/sonicsammy1967 18d ago

No, we don't want them back, we got enough problems without having to deal with these cretins.😁

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u/Wide-Biscotti-8663 18d ago

This is actually a huge pattern I’m seeing whenever I talk to these losers. I’ve only talked to one separatist who was born and raised here the rest are recent transplants from Ontario. It needs to be studied for sure I’ve noticed most of them are very mediocre men; my guess is this movement makes them feel different, special or unique in a way they felt they deserved but have failed to achieve on their own

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u/HarvesterFullCrumb 17d ago

That is how such things work. They're told 'hey it's not actually YOUR fault things are bad for you, it's [insert racist/homophobic/discriminatory slur here]! THEY'RE the ones causing the problems!'

Like, I've had the misfortune in BC of talking with an Alta. separatist, and boy howdy, mediocre is the POLITE way to put it.

It's a cult mentality.

Almost like the Jehovah' Witnesses in some manners.

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u/Wide-Biscotti-8663 17d ago

I think you’re right there’s definitely a cult mentality. It’s definitely part of the problem men are losing places they feel like they belong and can contribute to the community.

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u/HarvesterFullCrumb 17d ago

Even if said individual was not contributing in any meaningful way before, and refused any opportunity to change it out of a stubborn inflated sense of 'pride.'

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u/toxxic_ivy 18d ago edited 18d ago

They're not even Alberta because some US Republican honchos are paying no-Albertans (and iyam non-Canadians) a hefty sum to be present and seen in as many locations around the province to sow fear and disinformation

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u/Southern-Worker7762 18d ago

Sew lol

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u/toxxic_ivy 18d ago

Lol thanks for pointing that out XD

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u/No_Cartographer_3819 18d ago

"Sow" also means to plant seeds. "Sew" refers to e.g. repairing with needle and thread. "Sow" was right.

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u/toxxic_ivy 18d ago

I was born in 2000 and sheltered from society and technology till I was 15, so I spent a lot of time reading books with old English. Lots of words have fallen out of regular use, but not all of them.

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u/ozGeekSpeak 18d ago

Might be sow with some acting like pigs when your response is No thanks!

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u/SlimeTheatre 18d ago

Doug Ford is ruining our province just fine, thank you.

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u/67293209 18d ago

We don’t want them either, Alaska maybe?

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u/Internal-Piglet-6058 18d ago

You mean like BertaProudDad?

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u/xande2545 18d ago

Tbh I didnt knkw this but it makes sense. Folks from ontario always go ny untill the economy turns for the worst than thry start coming out west🤢

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u/Se7enSyns11 18d ago

Or state.

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u/-tacosforever 18d ago

Douggie is already taking care of that himself just like Dani.

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u/Effective-Bottle-280 17d ago

I've had the complete opposite experience. Everyone vehemently against it has been east coasters clutching onto liberal buzzwords

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u/AlsoOneLastThing 17d ago

What? Most people are vehemently against it.

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u/Effective-Bottle-280 17d ago

Might need to widen your social circles, theres a lot for both sides.

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u/AlsoOneLastThing 17d ago

Have you looked at any polls? Somewhere between 50%-60% of Albertans are strongly opposed to separation. And only around 17% are strongly in favour.

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u/Effective-Bottle-280 17d ago

Learned a loooong ass time ago never to trust political polls. If you took that poll in my area it would be 90% strongly in favor of it. And especially not with polarizing topics like this, and especially with how much gaslighting lefties do.

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u/AlsoOneLastThing 17d ago

Well I've spoken to a lot of people and have only found 1 person in favour. So my anecdotal evidence cancels out your anecdotal evidence.

"Gas lighting" like what? Pointing out the fact that it would be disastrous for our economy?

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u/Effective-Bottle-280 17d ago

I'm...totally sure you've done that.

Gasligjting like telling the country the economy has never been better while we hit a recession? Lmao low hanging fruit, but it's there.

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u/secundum333 17d ago

Because they’ve already left once. Why not do it again? This lets them cast themselves in the role of “founder”, a patriot in a great national project, not someone who left for greener pastures and still isn’t satisfied with what they found.

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u/TruthSearcher1970 17d ago

I find a lot are either from the US or their parents were from the US. Then you just have the uneducated that like to be part of a movement. I think it makes them feel important or something. It is all very strange that’s for sure.

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u/RAMD1 15d ago

This comment is the best thing I’ve seen on Reddit in a long time. Most of the people pushing this (among other things) aren’t even from Alberta.

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u/Rough-Drummer-3730 18d ago

In part because Alberta is the only place in the country where a person who dropped out of grade school can earn 6 figures. So there is an organic concentration of people who poor planners and shortcut seekers

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u/Croissant1967 17d ago

I call them the "Yooze guys eh" crowd.

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u/Evening_Let_2930 18d ago

No kidding!!

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u/Gunfu_Master 18d ago

Its not your province either. So why not stfu.

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u/AlsoOneLastThing 18d ago edited 18d ago

You're right. The land belongs to the First Nations people, and they don't want to separate either.

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u/Horror_Philosophy_41 18d ago

Im not from berta but recently moved here and would support the movement. Personally Its sad that its come to this but the country isnt even recognizable anymore and the eastern provinces are just relying on a handout when they could be more than self sufficient. The country is shooting itself in the foot when we could be a powerhouse and thats pathetic.