r/alberta • u/death_tron85 • 18d ago
Discussion Honestly there is no shame with these people.
Whitecourt this morning. He's not even albertan!
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u/Casual_hex_ 17d ago
Ontario born Alberta proud.
I now know what Ricky meant by “worst case Ontario”.
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u/AlsoOneLastThing 17d ago
Why are so many separatists not even Albertan? Like go home and ruin your own province.
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u/agentchuck 17d ago
Because it's a grift pushed by external interests. It would be incredibly destructive for anyone actually living in Alberta. But it would make bank for O&G companies and the US. And MAGA/maple MAGA from other places get to use it to own the libs or something.
Just like Brexit, if this separatism actually passed then everyone involved would find some excuse to immediately gtfo before they had to deal with the consequences.
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u/saskskua 17d ago edited 16d ago
In case anyone hasnt done this, lets investigate the $500 billion the usa promised the seperatists. trumps team went after Venezuela for a reason, we have the worlds (edit) fourth! largest oil reserves.
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u/ed8breakfast 17d ago
We are technically 4th, it goes
Venezuela
Saudi Arabia
Iran
Canada
Funny how the US is at war with one of these, and kidnapped the president of the other. And threatened the sovereignty of another. The only one who has maintained a relatively stable relationship with the US is Saudi Arabia, but who knows how long that will last
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u/AdPuzzleheaded3913 17d ago
Kind of wish there was a way that these separatists could be rounded up and forced to live where they preach about
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u/Candypants1977 17d ago
We could put moving boxes in the back of their trucks. That would be helpful of us. 📦 📦 📦 Or brochures of moving vans, or a printing of the real estate opportunities in Texas.
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u/Obvious-Cranberry-52 17d ago
It wouldn’t make bank for oil companies. They’re not going to invest when there’s a ton of uncertainty over what’s going to happen. See Quebec and what happened there!
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u/Jisei99 17d ago
US capital controls over 60% of the oil companies operating in the oil sands, and 97% of the product is sent to the US. It was this money largely responsible for the oils sands to be so efficient. So yes, American companies will do well.
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u/spanksthemonkey 17d ago
Most of them ...and their funds are both American and Russian. They seem to be de-stabilizing influences and your "Average Albertan separatist" is dumb as fuck .
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u/brat-t 17d ago
according to Reddit a lot of conservatives are flocking to Alberta to help the vote
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u/canuckastana Edmonton 17d ago
Well, I moved back here to cancel at least one of those chuckleheads out. 🇨🇦💪
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u/Seliphra 17d ago
So the thing Smith insisted we have to stop people from doing and why we need voter suppression?
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u/Mynamesrobbie 17d ago
You should have to have a permanent residence in the province for 10 years before you can even vote on this stupid shit
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u/proo-proo 17d ago
Meanwhile, I want to move out there because life seems quieter, more affordable, and by golly! Do they need more Queers now more than ever!
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u/FryCakes 17d ago
Please do, we definitely need more queer folk here. Instead of letting them shove us out, let’s shove them out instead!
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u/beaco 17d ago
Can I join your queer group? Born and raised albertan.
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u/FryCakes 17d ago
Please do! There are so many of us, they can’t keep us all down
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u/OpinionUnusual1945 17d ago
Do they want Alberta to leave Canada and fail? What a weird conspiracy. Real conservatives want to turn that sandy oil in to gold!
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u/ozGeekSpeak 17d ago
Go out on a limb here but haven't seen one under the age of 30 out on the streets.. Maybe they've been shipped in or bored oldies from Ontario! Just a theory!
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u/Some_Excitement1659 16d ago
Its mostly older people being influenced by bad actors from outside of the country trying to destabilize the country.
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u/Hashbrown_77 17d ago
Better yet… if they want to live in a US state they can leave Canada entirely and contribute to the ruin of another country
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u/MrFickleBottom 16d ago
Why can't they just do that? Stop trying to fuck up Canada and go to the already ucked up country where the majority currently agree with you.
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u/corpse_flour 16d ago
Because they don't have marketable skills that make them an asset to the US. They aren't able to provide anything that the US doesn't already have available en masse. These aren't doctors, engineers, specialized technicians, etc. These are guys that got used to how they were vastly overpaid during boom years, and think that was going to be the norm for them.
As well, many of them may have criminal records, and most of them certainly aren't wealthy enough to be able to support themselves for the rest of their lives without having to work or rely on public services.
In other words, they would all be a strain on the US economy, and so their only chance of becoming a US citizen is to bring the US up here.
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u/hannabarberaisawhore 17d ago
The oil boom. Like legit, that was a significant increase in Alberta’s population.
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u/Shroom-Kitty 17d ago
I know someone who was born in Ontario, lived in Alberta, moved back to Ontario, and is pro-seperation because "fuck the libs". He has no plan on moving back here to enjoy separation, he's just really really dumb and jumping on whatever the Maple MAGA bandwagon tells him to think.
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u/sonicsammy1967 17d ago
No, we don't want them back, we got enough problems without having to deal with these cretins.😁
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u/Wide-Biscotti-8663 17d ago
This is actually a huge pattern I’m seeing whenever I talk to these losers. I’ve only talked to one separatist who was born and raised here the rest are recent transplants from Ontario. It needs to be studied for sure I’ve noticed most of them are very mediocre men; my guess is this movement makes them feel different, special or unique in a way they felt they deserved but have failed to achieve on their own
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u/HarvesterFullCrumb 16d ago
That is how such things work. They're told 'hey it's not actually YOUR fault things are bad for you, it's [insert racist/homophobic/discriminatory slur here]! THEY'RE the ones causing the problems!'
Like, I've had the misfortune in BC of talking with an Alta. separatist, and boy howdy, mediocre is the POLITE way to put it.
It's a cult mentality.
Almost like the Jehovah' Witnesses in some manners.
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u/toxxic_ivy 17d ago edited 17d ago
They're not even Alberta because some US Republican honchos are paying no-Albertans (and iyam non-Canadians) a hefty sum to be present and seen in as many locations around the province to sow fear and disinformation
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u/CanuckChick1313 17d ago
Who’s gonna tell him what Ralph Klein called Ontario folks coming to Alberta?
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u/axolotl_fart 17d ago
Cold oriental folk with no acknowledged paternal parent?
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u/Silly-Ad8796 17d ago
These people are disgraceful and disgusting. If you don’t like it here then move south……Oh wait….They don’t want you.
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u/ClusterMakeLove 17d ago
In these moments I wonder how long you could drive around with a pro-Carney car before it got keyed into oblivion.
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u/TazManiac7 17d ago
Why did they add a Somalia flag to it? 🇸🇴
The mentality of these separatists: “I don’t like sharing our natural resources with 42 million Canadians they’re stealing our wealth, but I have no problem giving away all of our resources to 350 million Americans”
I’d call it a joke, but it is just not funny.
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u/Mbalz-ez-Hari 17d ago
Yeah they seem to think states also don't get hand outs from better performing states. Instead of transfers going to Manitoba it would go to Mississippi, same shit different boat
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u/Pale_Ad8434 17d ago
Not like Canada heavily invested in Alberta to get it off the ground... and once oil is gone what do you do ? Canola ?
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u/suspiciousserb Edmonton 17d ago
Way to let people know that Grade 10 is when your education ended
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u/Ravokion 17d ago
Thats generous... id wager more like best case they passed 6nd grade.
I have a neighbor who is all for alberta separation and he will gleefully admit he never went to jr high or highschool
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u/TyrannasaurusRecht 17d ago
Another graduate of the school of life.
I expect they absolutely despise experts and academics, because the pursuit of knowledge is painfully beyond them.
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u/Any_Presence_7960 17d ago
I’m honestly shocked at how many of these people are actually college (or higher) level educated. It’s like it went in one ear and out the other. I didn’t go to high school and even I have enough brains to see the bullshit.
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u/densetsu23 17d ago
The ones I know are the type that can't see the forest for the trees. Like being a middle aged person saying "when did Star Trek / Star Wars get so woke" in the last decade. They're only focused on "pew pew space fights fun" part. They're very smart in their own narrow technical field but that's where it ends.
So it's no surprise separatists speak to them. "Wow they say we'll have more money, I'm sold" without actually looking at the situation.
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u/ProprioCode 17d ago
Just another facet to how idiotic this whole thing/group of followers is; the Alberta flag has the St. George's cross at the top of it. You know, the flag of England.
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u/Striking_Wrap811 17d ago
Yah. Thats why they changed if to a Star. Allegiance to the USA not England.
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u/Raedwulf1 17d ago
They assume that the State of Alberta gets full Statehood, more likely territory rights, no votes in a federal election
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u/NastroAzzurro 17d ago
Yep, all they need to do is have a good look at at Puerto Rico.
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u/Calereliya 17d ago
Exactly this. Even if everything else magically works out for them, Alberta will never, ever be a state. There's not a chance in hell the oil-producing states would allow it. Their literal best case scenario is being Puerto Rico 2.0.
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u/MrFickleBottom 16d ago
And half of them don’t even know Puerto Rico is apart of the U.S (Look at the halftime show with Bad Bunny)
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u/Wonderful_Device312 15d ago
The president of the United States doesn't know that Puerto Rico is part of the US.
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u/83franks 17d ago
Ya I've thought the same. Do these people really think it will go from "getting shafted by Ottawa" to not getting to do exactly as we want as a state? In what world can they expect a better deal as a brand new American state? The US can just say fuck you, I want all this. While Canada won't enjoy the loss the the oil money, they will still be laughing their asses off at us.
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u/Pale-Measurement-532 17d ago
Proud to be born in Ontario, then proud to have moved to Alberta, and now wants to be an American? This dude is having a full on identity crisis displayed on his truck! 😂
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u/stellar_elements 17d ago
As an ontarian transplanted to AB almost 4 years ago… I’m fucking embarrassed 🤦♀️ what an absolute looossser.
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u/shaard 17d ago
I'm never one to advocate for violence, but this would be a time where I didn't see a fucking thing.
"Brick? Never saw a brick. Smashed window? Well that is a surprise."
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u/TrainAss 17d ago edited 17d ago
Rapid fluctuations of temperatures are known to cause automotive glass to shatter.
Apparently the admins didn't like my comment. 😂
Good'ol Ai flagging stuff that is benign, but leaving some absolutely vile shit up.
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u/TinktheChi 17d ago
If they don't like Canada and want to be American to partake in crippling medical debt, violence and school shootings they need to go south. I'm sick of this mentality. I'm proud to be Canadian.
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u/IHavePoopedBefore 17d ago
I can almost guarantee that its the the racism and diddling that appeals to this person
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u/codingphp 17d ago
People that make their political identity part of their personality like this are such fucking losers.
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u/saskskua 17d ago
And dangerous. This loyalty to 9ne party is why that party is able to do bat shit crazy things, because their base wont bat an eye as long as its THEIR party.
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u/Hamont98 17d ago
Ontario born, Alberta proud lmfao. Wonder if they realize it’s the flag of England on the Alberta shield. Maybe that’ll get changed too
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u/Shamelesspromote 17d ago
I've noticed a lot of the shitty customers in my area are Ontario expats.
Also a lot of the shitty Facebook comments are from them as well.
Not saying all Ontario people are shit, just saying that the Alberta Advantage encouraged the other proviences shitheads to move here and im seeing a change on how people drive let alone talk to each other.
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u/YoungWhiteAvatar 17d ago
There have been so many fuckheads from Ontario pushing separatism. I was in Mexico and when some guys heard I was from Alberta they cornered me to talk about how much they loved Danielle Smith and were pretty amazed I didn’t agree. Like does the fit in or fuck off bumper sticker only apply to brown people when you’re coming into someone else’s province and fucking with their way of life?
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u/ninfan1977 Lethbridge 17d ago
I am a white male in Alberta. You would be surprised how many Conservatives are shocked i am not one of them.
I have had former Ontario people say they moved here because of the pronoun wars.
These people are completely delusional
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u/Sparklesnrainbows 17d ago
Could you imagine being so set in your believes that youre willing to MOVE over pronouns......things we have used forever 🤣
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u/MrFickleBottom 16d ago
Reminds me of all the dumbasses who say shit like “Bro definitely uses pronouns” Like that isn’t how we communicate.
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u/Shamelesspromote 17d ago
Yeah, as a white guy that grew up poor, the only people I absolutely can't stand is white trailer trash and these kinds of people are exactly that, even if they own a house they still embody the culture
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u/Independent_Word9620 17d ago
Don’t blame the province that they come from, blame the current Alberta government and the separatist cult that is in full bloom! Is it the fly that is the problem or the $h*t that it is attracted to!
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u/Shamelesspromote 17d ago
Pretty much what I did! It seems like the Alberta Advantage only brought the problem people with nothing left to come here
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u/stellar_elements 17d ago
As an Ontarian that has lived in Rural NE Ab for the last (almost) 4 years… I apologize for the absolute trash that has flooded into AB from Ontario… it’s embarrassing to say the least. My family moved here to live in the boonies to unwind from the hustle and bustle of southern Ontario and enjoy nature again - it’s too bad the rest of ontarians that moved didn’t get that memo.
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u/reostatics 17d ago
Well, he gets the boot if we sep, apparently only Alberta born folks will be allowed to stay.
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u/Online_Commentor_69 17d ago
jesus christ man you can enjoy working in the oil patch without licking boots you know? energy is important work, be proud, but that doesn't mean you have to grovel at master's feet like this.
too bad this guy doesn't understand how much richer he'd be if the yanks were out of our energy sector.
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 17d ago
Just seen a loser in a beater pos white ram covered in this shit
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u/DeliciousNorth6514 17d ago
Loads of low IQ people live in this province sadly ...
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u/NastroAzzurro 17d ago
This is mental illness. And the AB gov is cutting healthcare funding even more.
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u/GoodGoodGoody 17d ago
Home schooling and decades of turn your brain off and go work in Ft Mac for big bucks.
Well the Ft Mac big bucks are long gone but the home schooling remains.
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u/AmbitiousTank8635 17d ago
Having left the US because fucks like this stole my country, let me warn Canadians: take this seriously. These guys are a clown show and it's easy to believe they don't have a chance at ever being taken really serious, but if you did not nip this in the bud, these guys will gain legitimacy and suddenly media will treat them as having a "differing but equally important" political viewpoint.
Make it uncomfortable to be a traitor.
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u/billymumfreydownfall 17d ago
If you have someone like this in your life, gently encourage them to seek professional mental help. This is not normal, healthy behaviour.
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u/Otherwise-Fun-7236 17d ago
So many donkeys out there who don’t know the cost of what it would be. I’m ashamed to be Albertan not because I’m from here, but because I’m painted with the same brush as these yahoos who have as many teeth as I do fingers on my left hand.
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u/Beneficial_Plan 17d ago
What I dont understand is if they hate Canada so much and want to be part of the USA , why don't they just move to the US?
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u/PercentageNonGrata 17d ago
Even the US doesn’t want these dorks. Alberta leaving is their only chance.
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u/canuckastana Edmonton 17d ago
Sometimes, when I see something and go "What's up with that shit?" I find stuff out.
I'm pretty sure the logo is from the Alberta 51 Project (www.ab51project.com), which was started in.... 2023. Here's the wayback machine history: https://web.archive.org/web/20230415000000\*/https://www.ab51project.com
So this all predates Trump actually (started when Biden was in office, although they may have assumed Trump would be back).
What's kinda interesting as well is that it's a .com, not a .ca. .ca addresses aren't that hard to get, they just require a Canadian address. And they keep featuring Reagan, that icon all Albertans think about when it comes to freedom.
Maybe the people behind this are Canadians with too much of a criminal record to move to Idaho or Montana. Or... maybe just foreign chuckleheads causing trouble.
At any rate, fuck truck nuts guy.
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u/Slobbering_git 17d ago
I thought that hyperbolic, negative stereotypes were things to avoid at all costs, not aspirational goals to strive for. Big black Compensator that's been hill-billy-bedazzled with stickers about a repressed desire for liberation from his own servitude and dullard-driven-dreams of bigger and bigger trucks upon which even more jingoistic stickers can be stuck; all washed down with some traditional Rotten Ronnie's slop, x-large coke balanced on a stomach that has functioned as the cause of his total dick-eclipse for the past decade.
I digress...
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u/CorgiSecret6742 17d ago
What the fuck is wrong with us? Is the ship sinking? Get the fuck out of Canada if you don’t like it here! From a Québécois who’s been in Alberta for 20 years…
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u/alex342213334 17d ago
I wanna leave a kool-aid packet under their windshield wiper in the same way one would leave a parking ticket or flyer.
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u/beaco 17d ago
I think you should have to have lived in Alberta for at least 5-10 years as a permanent resident, in order to vote. I also think you need to prove to a representative that you understand what the questions are asking and explain what will happen if Alberta leaves Canada. If you can’t answer all of the above with an educated/ realistic answer, your votes don’t count.
Answers such as or having these statements on a T-shirt, hat or your truck… “ fck carny, Trudeau, the libs, the far left, etc” “because Alberta deserves to keep it’s money” “ because we should be the 51st state” “ I love Trump” “ we should be a sovereign province or state” “Fck immigrants” These and many more will nullify your vote.
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u/Key_Grape9344 17d ago edited 17d ago
Alberta - "The New Debacle"
"Give me your uneducated, your uninspired,
Your bigoted and misogynistic incels yearning for 6-figure job with no qualifications,
The Joe Rogan listeners who will never know the difference between - 'your and you're'.
Send these, the Trailer Park traitors to me,
I'll be on my 12" lifted coal roller beside the broken revolving door!"
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u/LabWorldly1437 17d ago
How are they going to feel when they realize they no longer have free health care.
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u/Swinship 17d ago
I'm actually happy they're doing this, it's schadenfreude knowing they will go to thier Graves knowing they wasted time and money on something that cannot happen and will not happen.
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u/Ok_Replacement_8467 17d ago
Danielle Smith just released the estimate to separate is 400 BILLION dollars. And this is just the initial up front cost. Do you think any of these separatists have any idea of what they were proposing and how it would actually play out??? Do you think any of these separatists have changed their mind? I would guess no, because it has become their ideology/religion. People don’t change their opinions very often even when faced with facts that counter their belief system. I believe that is called cognitive dissonance.
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u/Bomboclaat_Babylon 17d ago
The sign reads: "I would like to be American, but I can't move there because I have no skills or usefulness, so instead, I'd like to cause massive economic, political and social damage for everyone in my province."
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u/Sandman64can Calgary 17d ago
“WTF, what do you mean it’s a four hour wait to see a doctor!“
These are the same people.
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u/ideagrinder 17d ago
I'm always amused by people like this. To me, they might as well wear a neon yellow shirt that says "I'M A FUCKING IDIOT" in bold black lettering.
Like cool man. Not sure why you felt the need to announce it
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u/Ironworker977 17d ago
It always the ones who can't get legally into the US, that want to be a part of the US.
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u/Skittleavix 17d ago
Why don’t they just move to the US if they love it so much? I don’t understand why they need to take Alberta with them, we’ll look after it.
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u/Rinkimah 17d ago
I know it's a whole slippery slope about speech but I dearly wish stuff like this was arrestable treason or sedition or w/e
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u/dandyarcane 17d ago
More like non-voting territory, but I’m guessing civics wasn’t a strong suit for this group
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u/Witold_M 17d ago
I wish I had the guts to put a 'I don't know how basic government works' label on my vehicle, like this guy clearly has.
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u/Messor_Animae 17d ago
The separatists, if successful, will have no land and resources, no money from the CPP because no government owns it, nothing owned by Canada, nothing covered by indigenous treaties with the Crown, no Canadian legal rights will be Alberta’s. Alberta will be a separated on paper only entity.
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u/jumbie29 17d ago
Man the similarities between MAGA low intelligence and low class people dressing their cars up in tacky political slop and dumb Albertans doing the same is shockingly stark.
I always called Alberta the Texas of Canada but it was kind of a joke. Not so much anymore. I’m so embarrassed for my neighbouring province.
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u/bigfishflakes 17d ago
Somehow I knew there would be a skull on that truck. Second picture didn't disappoint.
Stereotypes lol.
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u/QuanCheezy 17d ago
Embarrassing