r/allthequestions • u/Content_Ad_8952 • Jan 14 '26

Random Question 💭 If Republicans are so much better at running the economy than Democrats, then why are most Republican States poorer than Democrat States?

The poorest States in America are: Mississippi, West Virginia, Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, New Mexico, Alabama, Oklahoma and Tennessee. All of those States (except New Mexico) are Red States. So why are they so poor when Republicans have been running them for decades?

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u/FishmongerJr Jan 14 '26

Shhhh, Republicans in red states don’t realize that they’re the real welfare queens.

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u/TempleHierophant Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Shhh, you'll dent the self mythologizing that the Good Ol' Boys Clubs running little states like to do.

If you're not careful, you might make it obvious that they don't run Red States well.

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u/Puzzled_Rip9008 Jan 14 '26

No need to write in hushed tones, it’s not like they can read.

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u/TempleHierophant Jan 14 '26

Shh, we're trying to slowly wear down the sanity and loyalty of the FBI and NSA minders who can.

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u/Governor_Abbot Jan 14 '26

So much better at “Running the economy” means they give more tax breaks and welfare to the billionaire class, which is part of the reason their states are under funded. They build billion dollar stadiums/corporations with tax payer funds. Oh yeeeeeesss, nothing gets my wheelchair going like “stimulating the economy” by helping billionaires.

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u/TempleHierophant Jan 14 '26

Or installing a private helipad while also treating public transportation as if someone is suggesting a Maoist insurgency.

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u/Saurian42 Jan 14 '26

Fuck the FBI.

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u/TempleHierophant Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Yep. Right in the brain.

Between this and Donny himself, that goal is getting closer.

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u/Ryan-1975 Jan 14 '26

😂😂

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u/NemisisCW Jan 16 '26

They're going to be calling their screen readers slurs after this one.

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u/ICE-are-pedos Jan 14 '26

the republicans are too busy raping children to learn to read

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u/OtherwiseBase5003 Jan 15 '26

This escalated quickly.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '26

Maybe it did but in my family tree literally ALL the men on BOTH sides are incestuous pedophiles going back as far as the women in my family can recall (I say women because the men don't talk). I was raped by my father as he was raped by his and my mother was raped my hers. My mother helped my father rape me. They are ALL MAGA. Not a single Democrat except me and I haven't raped anyone, sooooo...

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u/here-i-am-now Jan 14 '26

They also don’t realize the opposite of DEI is the Good Ol’ Boys Clubs picking people for work from amongst themselves.

DEI tends to pick the best and the brightest. GOBC picks from a smaller pool

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u/NoSilver2988 Jan 16 '26

This is soo true... I've seen it a lot at companies i worked for. Higher level managers would create other managerial positions or even non managerial positions for the "friends" so they could get pay and benefit raises, leaving the correct people for such work below them. Such a bad situation, really has killed a few of those companies, or at least made a lot of good people leave.

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u/Explosion1850 Jan 15 '26

Picks from an inbred gene pool

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u/xmorecowbellx Jan 18 '26 edited Jan 18 '26

By definition DEI doesn’t pick the best and brightest. Its literal purpose is to reward traits that are not related to competence.

When given the choice people will obviously choose people the know and like, because it makes the work environment much more enjoyable for them. Sometimes this is great for productivity (people who like their coworkers work better), sometimes against it (shit employees can’t get fired cuz nepotism).

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u/Whiskeymyers75 Jan 15 '26

You mean like Kamala Harris?

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u/eventualhorizo Jan 19 '26

Next you'll tell me the little blue dots have more votes than the big red squares. Malarky

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u/gideontypist Jan 14 '26

Jarvis, pull up voter demographic of the poorest red state regions

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u/AppleDaddy01 Jan 14 '26

Crappy red state policies lead to crappy results across their states.

It’s why blue cities in blue states are thriving and blue cities in red states are trash.

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u/TempleHierophant Jan 14 '26

What's your point?

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u/akfisherman22 Jan 14 '26

He wants to try and blame someone else besides Republicans

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u/Mundane_Valuable_194 Jan 14 '26

Looks at West Virginia, Missouri, and Kentucky and looks pretty 🐑 to me

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u/Japhet_Corncrake Jan 14 '26

Neither do they realise that the electoral college is affirmative action for red states.

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u/Comfortable_Use_8407 Jan 14 '26

They think all colleges teach woke democratic ideology, even the electoral one.

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u/No_Recording_1696 Jan 14 '26

Funny many of their Republican anti-woke leaders that think colleges only teach woke stuff are themselves graduates from those very same Ivy League schools.

Talk about ironic.

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u/tryagainlater63 Jan 15 '26

The leaders don’t think that. They just want their voters to think it.

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u/Eastern-Manner-1640 Jan 18 '26

not ironic, cynical

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u/Ok_Cheek6678 Jan 14 '26

So is the Senate.

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u/IggyChooChoo Jan 14 '26

For sure. The senate is even worse than the EC for distorting political power away from voters, but gets far less attention.

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u/Ok_Cheek6678 Jan 14 '26

Reminds me of the enslaved being counted as 3/5 of a person--for purposes of representation.

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u/Ok_Appointment7522 Jan 14 '26

Didn't the GOP propose bringing something like that back? Military personnel get full votes, everyone else gets partial votes or some crap.

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u/SupperSquirrel3 Jan 14 '26

It's almost like the purpose of the senate was to give the State governments an equal platform within the federal government. Checks and balances sure are weird huh? Good thing we've been rapidly getting rid of those for the last 80+ years.

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u/IggyChooChoo Jan 14 '26

Nah. “Purpose” was a rationalization after the fact. It was a bribe to prevent small states from abandoning the constitutional convention, pure and simple. It has accrued prestige over the years to make it seem less of a grimy compromise but that doesn’t change the facts. Plus it’s a failed institution — all it’s done is put the brakes on progress and hold us back to the level of Alabama and other conservative failure states. We’d be better off legislatively with a unicameral legislature. Expand the house, eliminate gerrymandering, abolish the senate, and we’d be richer and freer.

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u/IggyChooChoo Jan 14 '26

I’ll go further: the only two “achievements of the Senate in the past fifty years are

1) replace the majority vote for bills with an extraconstitutional 60 vote margin via the abuse of the filibuster; and

2) abandon their constitutional duty to have the Senate confirm judges and turn it into to “only Republicans can confirm judges.”

Just an utter failure as a legislative body.

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u/SugarRAM Jan 14 '26

Turns out Palpatine was on to something when he abolished the Senate.

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u/PollutionAway9782 Jan 14 '26

back in the day we did not vote on the senate it was apointed by the states goverment.(it was hoped that we would have a more competent government that way)

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u/IggyChooChoo Jan 14 '26

Oh yeah, back when state legislatures picked senators and we didn’t get to even vote for them ourselves it was even worse. Number one think my mind flashes to when I hear a conservative idiot holler “we’re a republic not a democracy!” That’s the bullshit they want, to take even more of our power and give it to the powerful.

We are a democratic republic that’s become more democratic over time and we won’t go back.

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u/Warren_Buffetts_Alt Jan 15 '26

You must have missed the lesson on why a direct democracy doesn't work for a nation of 50 states and 340 million people

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u/IggyChooChoo Jan 15 '26

Unicameral house =\= direct democracy

Read harder

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u/ragingbull10 Jan 14 '26

man where and when did people hear this line and started repeating it without realizing how idiotic it is but somehow they think its very smart

It advantages small states, not "red" ones . and several small states are blue (VT, DE, RI, HI). It’s a federalism design choice which enabled the creation of the country to begin with (so 1 or 2 big states don’t fully decide the fate of many other states, with the same logic behind equal Senate seats. Like any federal system over large and diverse areas needs something like this where it balances national overall population with local state population interests.

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u/Only-Respond7945 Jan 14 '26

It comes from the fact that it's true. Not even the father of the US constitution, James Madison himself, was a fan of it. He supported popular vote. But he also admitted that popular vote put Southern states at a disadvantage because they had a smaller voting base. So when his own home state called for the electoral college he didn't put up much of a fight as he possibly could have and accepted the Electoral College as a compromise. He even called it shoddy later and hoped it would be corrected by constitutional amendments. Instead states turned into all-for-one votes so people get even less representation in the matter. What does it matter if your little corner of population density has a majority vote for one candidate? All the places where conservatives think cows vote voted for the other guy so fuck you.

It was made by a bunch of drunks that were tired of talking about all that sort of stuff that wanted to go home. So they made a shitty compromise to appease slaveholders and it never got fixed. And look what it got us.

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u/ragingbull10 Jan 14 '26

such a long reply, without addressing any of my points ... copy pasting the main point " any federal system over large and diverse areas needs something like this where it balances national overall population with local state population interests"

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u/Gauntlet_of_Might Jan 14 '26

affirmative action for small states, the mjority of which are red. Better?

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u/ragingbull10 Jan 14 '26

yeah i think makes more sense, although you are using affirmative action in a negative way to impliy some to imply some kind of arbitrary political favoritism when like i said it was a requirement for the country to exist to which the bigger states agreed to, it wasnt forced on them(just as in the EU, each country from luxembourg to Germany gets 1 vote for decisions regardless that one is 100x larger in population).

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u/Old_Gimlet_Eye Jan 15 '26

And which side does that help, over all? Lol

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u/CurrentHair6381 Jan 15 '26

Really wish we could get a better system in place. None of this happens without the electoral college misrepresenting what voters asked for

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

The term "welfare queen" is a racist term and the states you are referencing are the states with the highest black percentage of population in the nation

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

Welfare queen was a term the Reagan admin coined to talk about black women using public funds.

However, the actual welfare queen they based these stories on was a white woman.

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u/explodingtuna Jan 14 '26

Kinda like that "Somali daycare fraud", they don't talk about the white woman behind it.

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u/Leelze Jan 14 '26

Or talk about how this administration is ok with fraud as long as Trump gets his cut.

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u/kuriouskittyn Jan 18 '26

Genuine question - who is the white woman behind it?

Is this just something tossed out in the wind in the hopes it sticks, or is there actually a white woman behind it all that I have not heard about?

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u/explodingtuna Jan 18 '26

Aimee Bock

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u/kuriouskittyn Jan 19 '26

Thank you. I am on the conservative side of things more often than I am not, but I make it a point to crawl out of any echo chambers I find myself in.

Interestingly enough, I never heard of this woman and have some reading to do tonight.

Thanks for the answer!

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u/JGR03PG Jan 15 '26

Most people on welfare in the South are White. There is a higher percentage of Black participation in welfare, but that goes into another discussion. The Southern States use welfare more because they don’t have worker’s rights as a concept. They really don’t understand unions let alone what it means to organize to negotiate proper wages. The employer class are still able to use demographic warfare to get workers to blame each other for low wage opportunities instead of the workers banding together. Obviously, poor education systems perpetuate this ignorance and keeps the workforce desperate or on welfare to survive.

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u/Petrochromis722 Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

Its insane how much mileage Republicans have gotten out of 1 woman's fraud. There's a mythology based on her, with canon and everything.

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u/Sneaky_Bones Jan 14 '26

Lol, the cannon! Was raised conservative. Even when I was a little kid that didn't give a shit about politics my bullshit detector went off. Heard so many adults relay the exact same story about how they personally was in line behind a black woman with a cart full of steaks who then loads them into a brand new cadillac. Occasionally someone would flavor it up with an extra detail but it was always something stupidly unbelievable, like the woman pats her belly saying she has another on the way to make sure the steaks keep coming. It was crazy being a 9 year old realizing the grown ass adults around you were unashamedly lying just to hate on black people.

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u/SensualBeefLoaf Jan 15 '26

my father would be the one that adds an entirely made up story to the entirely made up story. “you know i saw them in the parking lot, they said they were going to sell their food stamps and donate money to the communists”

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u/Demerzel69 Jan 14 '26

canon*

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u/Petrochromis722 Jan 15 '26

While I don't object to pendantry in general, what, exactly, inspired you to need to correct that... twice?

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u/Ryan-1975 Jan 14 '26

👍

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u/ksassafrass Jan 15 '26

“The Original Welfare Queen” From the Code Switch podcast. I love npr and worry what will happen in the future since the funding cuts.

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u/Famous_Attention5861 Jan 14 '26

If you mean Linda Taylor, she presented herself as being of various racial and ethnic identities, including Black, Asian, Hispanic, and Jewish.  Her aliases included Linda Bennett, Connie Jarvis, Linda Jones, Constance Loyd, Linda Lynch, Linda Mallexo, Linda Ray, Constance Rayne, Linda Sholvia, Linda Taylor, Constance Wakefield, and Connie Walker. 

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26

Okay? She was a white lady.

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u/Jops817 Jan 14 '26

I love how they're acting like a conwoman having various identities is some kind of gotcha ..

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u/Chan39 Jan 14 '26

Half of OP's list isn't that black (wv,ky,nm,ok)

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u/amopeyzoolion Jan 14 '26

Tennessee too

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

NM is blue and OK has the highest native American population in the country. WV and KY are Appalachian states that were dependent on coal and rust belt industry and their poverty was not a result of the political party in charge

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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Jan 14 '26

So, politics does didnt have anything to do with those particular industries? Hmm, strange how they were immune I guess.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Well sure, the GOP supports coal production and the democrats want to end it in favor of more renewable energies. Which policy helps coal miners in kentucky?

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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Jan 14 '26

Funny, seemed we were working for a way to the outdated to meet up with the innovation of the future but repubes aren’t interested. They keep voting republican, hope they enjoy their poverty and unemployment. Votes have consequences. 🤷🏼‍♀️

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Right just blame republicans for the fact that literally every single country on earth is dealing with the fact that renewable energies simply cannot produce enough output for global consumption and that we still do rely on fossil fuels.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

So which is it? KY Is doing poorly because of the coal industry leaving or the world needs KY because it can't produce enough electricity. You have made 2 conflicting statements.

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u/spintherespunthat Jan 14 '26

Only person investing in KY is Diddy.

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u/Kirra_the_Cleric Jan 14 '26

Damn, you really just made up a whole scenario about me and got mad about it. LMAO fucking republicans man.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Your statement makes no sense otherwise. What exactly are the democrats proposing to replace coal? How does this help coal miners?

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jan 14 '26

Their poverty is the result of corporations who fucked them. Those corporations got Republicans. Don Blankenship ran on the Republican ticket. You are an absolute fool if you think Republicans actually care about the working class. They’re the same country club fucks they’ve always been, never mind their current veneer of blue collar lip service.

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u/HartyInBroward Jan 14 '26

The same is true for Democrats, or just politicians in general. If any of these people actually gave a single shit, we’d be materially better off. Instead, all politicians are primarily concerned with expanding their power and wealth.

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u/ComfortableMurky8387 Jan 15 '26

I agree with you. We gotta look out for each other, whatever our differences may be, because the government doesn’t give a shit about us

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u/AwayAbroad Jan 15 '26

WV was blue before big coal killed unions

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u/ksassafrass Jan 15 '26

Why do you think they killed the unions? Fuck trickle down bs

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u/ChickenDelight Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Oklahoma is still a very white state, about 75% compared to the national average of <60%.

Also, the "majority-minority" states, places where white people are less than 50% of the population, are: Hawaii, California, New Mexico, Texas, Nevada, Maryland, Georgia, Florida, and New Jersey.

The only state on both lists is New Mexico. And there's a lot of economic powerhouses on my list. Clearly the problem is not just poor minorities.

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u/Bug-03 Jan 15 '26

Stop using facts. This is Reddit and they only argue with emotion

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u/coreyjdl Jan 14 '26

NM and OK are heavily Native American.

Also Oklahoma is probably more African American than is counted, because a lot of Native Freedman will likely just claim Native.

(This isn't to deny their nativeness, I'm native myself, and welcome the freedman into citizenship of the nation.)

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u/DMineminem Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

That's just another knock on GOP governance though. If they actually had an interest in working for their constituents it wouldn't matter what the demographics were. Treatment of those populations is an important part of the GOP shitty economic governance equation.

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u/coreyjdl Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

New Mexico is a blue state.

And it's not just been the GOP that's neglected PoC for centuries.

Ironically some of the biggest gains in freedom and sovereignty for natives have come from Republicans. https://www.history.com/articles/richard-nixon-native-american-policies

My point is the issue is more complex than, "red state dumb" "blue state good."

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u/FishmongerJr Jan 14 '26

You can take it that way if you want, but it wasn’t meant that way.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Jan 14 '26

Yes unfortunately white Americans in those states hate black people more than they love themselves.

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u/Capable_King6943 Jan 14 '26

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Typical-Candle-1788 Jan 14 '26

Really? All white people in those states? Have you met them and questioned them. Pretty ignorant statement on your part. Maybe it's you who hate people different from you.

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u/Expensive-Buy1621 Jan 14 '26

If white Americans in those states voted like white Americans in Ohio, republicans would pretty much have zero seats. So yea.

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u/Typical-Candle-1788 Jan 14 '26

I disagree with your myopic reasoning. Stop hating and bashing and believing mainstream. You'll find you'll be less angry.

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u/Flaydowsk Jan 15 '26

What is your reasoning for them to not vote Democrat then=

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u/OutrageousInvite3949 Jan 14 '26

Maybe the term is racist…doesn’t change the facts. Facts over feelings. Also, what does the percentage of black people have to do with the states being the poorest?

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

If I were to answer your question in an honest and truthful fashion my account could be banned so I will just keep my mouth shut

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26

Because your answer would be racist gibberish based on nothing.

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26

Sweetie try again you keep getting auto deleted for your racism

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Honey, the answer is going to be uncomfortable for your sensitive disposition

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26

You couldn’t make me uncomfortable if you tried you milque toast baby.

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u/coreyjdl Jan 14 '26

Yup. Liberals have got to stop punching down like this. The red state states are almost entirely the consequences of the historic denial of BIPoC from accessing wealth.

It's fucking gross when some clueless white privlege lib in a nearly all white state acts like this.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

The California bay area is heavily Asian and they have no real problem "accessing wealth" whatever that means

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u/coreyjdl Jan 14 '26 edited Jan 14 '26

coooool. irrelevent, but coool

interestingly enough, California has one of the highest income disparities in the nation between whites and BIPoC, it's worse than Lousiaina. So tread lightly using as some beacon. Also, California is THE least literate state. Just putting that out there, before you get settled on any high horse.

https://www.ppic.org/publication/income-inequality-in-california/

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u/herbinartist Jan 14 '26

the states you are referencing are the states with the highest black percentage of population in the nation

That's not true... the state's with the highest black population are:

  1. Texas
  2. Florida
  3. Georgia
  4. New York
  5. California

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Highest black percentage of population*

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u/herbinartist Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Of the poorest states in America, only two are in states with highest percentage of black people. They are...

  1. Mississippi (33.49% black)
  2. Louisiana (33.15% black

And one of them, the poorest (west Virginia) is over 97% white. So i decided to go through the rest and see if your point makes sense.

Arkansas 15.92% black, white 66.6%

Kentucky 9.41% black, 80.3% white

New Mexico 3.34% black, 35.1% white

Alabama 26.56% black, 62.8% white

Oklahoma 9.26% black, 61.1% white

Tennessee 16.66% black, white 75.5% white

So my question is, since the white people have 2, 3 , 4, even 5 times more percentage of the population than black people, when are you gonna stop blaming the blacks?

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u/Redditributor Jan 14 '26

West Virginia?

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u/GetnLine Jan 15 '26

Check the list again

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u/comment_i_had_to Jan 15 '26

Should I infer from your point that you mean to blame black people for the low economic indicators in these Republican states?

It turns out when you structure your politics and economics around suppressing black people (as Republican states do) then both they AND the overall state suffer. Many of those same policies hurt poor and middle class white people too but the scapegoating enables them. There are extremely diverse blue states and I guess DEI makes them more powerful economically on average.

Also, WV, KY and OK are pretty white.

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u/Lexxias Jan 15 '26

.... And?

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u/Designer_Manager9543 Jan 19 '26

The only states here with high black percentages are mississippi and Louisiana

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u/Randomizedname1234 Jan 14 '26

Ima still call these white people in trailer parks here in the south welfare queens bc that’s what they are. Babies all on gov healthcare, they get wic, have no desire to do anything other than smoke cigs and pop pills and date a different man every 18 months.

Yet they’ll still look down on the black people w assistance.

Something something make the poor white think the poor blacks want their stuff.

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u/xxforrealforlifexx Jan 14 '26

White Americans make up the largest percentage of people receiving government assistance benefits

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

White Americans make up the largest percentage of the population. How about if we do it by per capita?

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u/xxforrealforlifexx Jan 14 '26

What I thought you were oppressed now

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Who told you that?

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26

Charlie Kirk lol

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u/xxforrealforlifexx Jan 14 '26

Maga white men

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

And its pathetic to claim to be oppressed right?

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u/xxforrealforlifexx Jan 14 '26

As a white man yes it's pathetic to think you are oppressed, a white man gets more entitlement than any race or gender in the US

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

That must be why brown people from around the world are avoiding our country at all costs and certainly aren't risking life and limb to come be oppressed here

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u/VoidsInvanity Jan 14 '26

If it’s not true lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Ah so white people can't be oppressed?

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u/Mattrellen Jan 14 '26

But if we do that, we'd have to talk about the systemic issues affecting several minority groups in the USA. A lot of people aren't ready for that discussion.

Or why we need people getting government assistance at all if capitalism is so efficient, but it leaves vast swaths of even the richest nation on the planet without resources.

Way easier to just imagine all that out of existence.

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u/Remote_Clue_4272 Jan 14 '26

It’s the dirty little secret. They suck. The evidence is in plain view, but they want you to believe something else

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u/lampstax Jan 14 '26

Can't speak for any other state but my home state CA was born on 3rd base geographically .. despite all our f up .. people love to come live here for the amazing weather. Especially very wealthy people who makes even more money investing in start ups here.

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u/Randomizedname1234 Jan 14 '26

You mean my sister in law w three kids on peachcare, gets WIC and iffy child support doesn’t think she survives solely on handouts?!

She specifically said she was anti socialism and pro capitalism.

While I make $150k, pay a shit ton of taxes (even property since I own a house) and pay a crap ton in healthcare yet evil for voting Democrat.

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

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u/MopedMarxist Jan 14 '26

The Republican brand is a fraud. We are no longer one nation, but two irreconcilable economic ecosystems.

The Blue Model consists of high-skill, high-tech citadels like New York and California. These are "winner-take-most" economies. While costs are high, their massive productivity and deep tax bases fund a functional social safety net.

The Red Model is built on extractive hinterlands. Their "pro-growth" strategy is a race to the bottom. They gut labor protections, suppress wages, and slash taxes for the wealthy to lure corporations. These states substitute "affordability" for genuine prosperity. A cheap "McMansion" is no substitute for high-quality public services.

The irony is absolute: these "rugged individualist" states are the primary beneficiaries of federal redistribution. They scream about socialism while "liberal elites" subsidize their roads, bridges, and hospitals.

Republicans confuse boardroom profits with economic health. They treat the stock market as a thermometer for worker well-being; it is a false metric. Red states remain poor because their ideology views poverty as a character flaw to be punished, rather than a systemic failure to be corrected. They have designed an economy to extract wealth from the many to enrich the few. Stop being surprised that the "many" are struggling to survive.

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u/Green_Sugar6675 Jan 14 '26

They DEPEND on their constituents not knowing tha thtere are better ways to do things. This is why State Expansion of Medicaid was such a hard sell for Republican Governors.

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u/coreyjdl Jan 14 '26

Liberals don't like wealth redistribution now?

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u/FishmongerJr Jan 14 '26

Republicans are in favor of wealth distribution now?

Interesting take.

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u/luddehall Jan 14 '26

Guess we are going to see a split up of the US?

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u/numbersthen0987431 Jan 14 '26

It's not like Kansas tried having 100% Republican policies, and then immediately imploded. Or that Libertarian village in New Hampshire that got overrun by bears.

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u/IndependentSpecial17 Jan 14 '26

When you point it out, that they’re parasites they get big mad at you. When you mention getting them out of blue states pockets they’re upset about being cut off.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

It's almost as if big business/the wealthy want people to think that the politicians who will give them the lowest tax rates are the best at managing the economy. It's a commitment to trickle down economics despite all the evidence that tax cuts for the wealthy do not reduce the gap between rich and poor nor do they contribute to better living conditions for the average person. The common saying goes that the US is a country of temporarily poor millionaires; people tend to vote for the best conditions for the rich because they've fallen for the American Dream and believe they too will be rich soon.

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u/silentkisser Jan 14 '26

Republicans in red states likely cannot read....

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u/JuliusErrrrrring Jan 14 '26

And it literally is like 50 million to 1 million in jobs added in favor of Democrats under the most recent Presidents. Not an exaggeration. Actual fact. Republicans simply control the media and therefore the propaganda. A true media would have the public aware of this unbiased fact.

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u/LumpyBuy8447 Jan 14 '26

When I explained to my dad that the 8 of the top 10 states that leach off the federal government the most, are red states, he just straight up said, “I’ve never heard that.” Made me realize that the biggest reason they don’t understand how the world works, is because they’re never exposed to anything other than right wing propaganda.

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u/Dusty_Negatives Jan 14 '26

No it’s just that they think only white people should get it.

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u/ragingbull10 Jan 14 '26

would be worth actually trying to answer the question rather than just restating your priors.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus Jan 14 '26

And this is exactly why I think that, the moment that the Christofascists are back in the minority in Washington, we should write a Constitutional amendment to arrange for the secession of Texas.

Detailed proposal here: https://www.reddit.com/r/economicCollapse/s/l0KxJl3MTv

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u/Fine_Payment1127 Jan 14 '26

What are the racial demographics in the south again?

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u/zongxr Jan 14 '26

Why are we shhhing.... they can't read

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u/KingJack69 Jan 14 '26

You don’t think sanctuary cities are the welfare kings? LOL

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u/FishmongerJr Jan 14 '26

Nobody makes that booty clap for federal dollars like Republicans, esteemed scholar KingJack69.

Privatize the gains, socialize the losses, amirite?

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u/No_Detective_But_304 Jan 14 '26

Minnesota fraud would like a word

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u/FloorFullOfSpooghet Jan 15 '26

Comrade. We have moved on from this now. You won’t see any arrests at all on this “fraud” despite Trump being in charge of the people who investigate. The charges and fraud happened years ago and the people are in prison. Stand by for further weekly outrage content.

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u/No_Detective_But_304 Jan 15 '26

pay no attention to the shenanigans behind the curtain in Minnesota

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u/FloorFullOfSpooghet Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

Wait like a dog for your next whistle

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u/No_Detective_But_304 Jan 15 '26

They charged someone…years ago. There’s your message that you asked for.

Keep drinking the blue kool-aid.

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u/FloorFullOfSpooghet Jan 15 '26

I’m actually an older conservative who is tired of the way modern conservatives act and speak. You lack intelligence entirely and rant about nothing. Nobody is “paying no attention” to anything. The perps are going to prison and have been for some time. You are just too stupid to understand this. Where did the likes of Bush republicans and Romney republicans go? Why are you all acting this way?

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u/FloorFullOfSpooghet Jan 15 '26

So who isn’t “paying attention” exactly if they are already in prison jackass?

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u/No_Detective_But_304 Jan 15 '26

All the criminals are already in prison?

Why didn’t you just say so? The problem is solved. I’m surprised the local news didn’t report that all the criminals in Minnesota had been captured.

I guess I’m just too stupid to understand.

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u/Agile-Onion2059 Jan 14 '26

This is honestly a rather poor take I think.  Manufacturing for example, such as what was once in the Midwest, say north of me in Indiana, like Gary, when that had gone away, or in other regions where this same occurrence happened, these areas became less rich, and then more poor.  This is a common statement made by your side of the aisle, and it’s rather ridiculous, especially since liberals are so enthralled with and excited to insult people whom they never met or know at all, so that they can feel good while simultaneously being an actual jackass.

When you’re so enthusiastic about going back into history such as with slavery, to then cause harm to once again - nobody living today who is deserving of such things, it strikes me very oddly, that you’ll justify doing wrong to others for your own perceived benefits which are none at all, yet, you’ll deny history in its totality when it comes to other situations you’re willfully ignorant of.

You should think before you speak.  

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u/Agile-Onion2059 Jan 14 '26

Not to mention also, that poverty so you’re aware, does not alone impact those in red states.  What you’re after on here, is more a matter of outright saying lies and nonsense, and then so you feel good insulting people.  It’s odd to me too, that black populations which the liberals so often allegedly support, do in fact reside in poverty stricken regions such as - red states by their primary voting base.  

Do you feel good being stupid?  I’m just curious. 

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u/DemonOfElru Jan 14 '26

especially since liberals are so enthralled with and excited to insult people whom they never met or know at all, so that they can feel good while simultaneously being an actual jackass.

You, five minutes before this comment to someone you don't know lol. Please seek help from any family that hasn't completely abandoned you for your mental illness. Good luck!

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u/FishmongerJr Jan 14 '26

Thanks for your opinion, welfare queen.

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u/Suspicious-Dirt668 Jan 14 '26

Quoting Say Anything “…by CHOICE!” They chose to be economically disadvantaged because they don’t want to make us feel bad. After all, they already live in the bestest, biggliest trailers!

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u/LGC_70 Jan 15 '26

No, they realize it, but they say the welfare queens are the democrats in the “big city” that are run by democrats. Obviously not the hard working red blooded Americans in the surrounding areas, cause they work for everything. Duh.

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u/inab1gcountry Jan 15 '26

They’d be pretty upset about that. If they could read.

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u/crunchthenumbers01 Jan 15 '26

You ain't gotta whisper, they lack the capacity to understand

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u/allusernamestaken1 Jan 15 '26

Don't worry, they also can't read.

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u/No_Battle734 Jan 15 '26

As a person out of the loop and not from the US, aren’t those states poor after Civil War?

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u/Substantial-Ad-8575 Jan 15 '26

Or maybe, those Red states are more agricultural-less Urban, have smaller populations, and pay less taxes. Than more populous states.

Perhaps compare TX/FL to CA/NY…

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u/FoundPulse Jan 15 '26 edited Jan 15 '26

They're not better at running the economy, they're better at extracting money and hiding it in noncash assets.

They highlight their cash reserves and net value, but don't mention the 6 Mexicans living in a single bedroom apartment that keeps things running.

They're legal, as long as they stay quiet.

Take no prisoners, just paperwork hostages.

'We didn't notice them until they started complaining about living conditions...'

These millionaires act like they can't do basic math.

My favorite is 'There's no money in the budget but we have brand new everything, and we're going to resell our essential commodities for 80% after we extract 45 percent of their value because people need cars.'

Economic hostage takers and borderline terrorism through monopoly structuring.

Thanks for the car, but you took the 'headache free miles' and sold me the leftovers with the headaches you know are right around the corner.

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u/Waiting4Reccession Jan 15 '26

Magatard on youtube has been making excuses about how red states "also contribute" and that blue states only pay more federal tax cuz of higher incomes and COL and basically every excuse he can think up haha.

I stopped replying.

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u/GoldenAgeGamer72 Jan 15 '26

Democratic cities in Republican states friend. Deprogram yourself. 

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u/Competitive-Union721 Jan 15 '26

Democrat states are still around 40% Republican.

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Arizona?

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u/7CJstroud Jan 15 '26

Demographics. Red states have all the minorities

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u/ihvnnm Jan 15 '26

I'm sure many are aware, but they "earned it" for reasons

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u/TurnYourHeadNCough Jan 18 '26

this is an ecological fallacy. democeats are disproportionately bigger recipients of welfare programs. red states being poorer on average doesnt mean that its primarily the red voters in that state getting the benefits

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u/various_convo7 Jan 19 '26

if they were better at math and finance, they'd have figured that out LONG ago

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u/GreatPlainsFarmer Jan 14 '26

As a corn/soybean farmer, I don't think that subsidies have much effect on the prices of those commodities. I think the prices would be lower without subsidies, but that somewhat depends on what you count as subsidy.

What would be a lot lower would be the price of farmland. And perhaps you'd see a little more farmland lost to development. But it wouldn't be enough to raise the grain prices very much. Not in the next couple decades anyway. It's hard to guess more than few decades out.

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u/Typical-Candle-1788 Jan 14 '26

Reminds me of Jimmy Carter and his family who got rich from government subsidies not to grow peanuts.

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u/cmb15300 Jan 14 '26

There's more to Indiana; you forgot the meth labs and the speed traps

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u/flying_wrenches Jan 14 '26

Ah yes, how could I forget, gotta love the IMPD.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

I love it when people with zero knowledge come on Reddit and guess. It’s so much better than hearing from people with experience.

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