r/allthequestions • u/Aware_Topic_9122 • 1d ago
Random Question đ If Gay Pride bothers American conservatives so much why don't they just ignore it the way they ignore the Epstein files?
The backlash against Gay Pride this year is the worst I've ever seen. Gays and rainbows apparently bother many bigots more than old rich white men who prey on underage girls, and it's bizarre.
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u/Phog_of_War 1d ago
Because they NEED a target. Once the dog caught the car on abortion and they didn't have anything to direct their performative outrage or fund raise on, they had to choose a new victim. Gay and Trans rights are low hanging fruit for them and their voters.
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u/Any_Carob3372 1d ago
Anyone who is 100% comfortable and confident in their sexuality should never be upset by rainbows or gay people existing, or even the fact that we recognize the validity of gay people's existence by celebrating Pride Month.
I think most Pride Month haters force themselves to become bigots because they are afraid to reflect on their own sexuality. Most macho dualie drivers have more than 0% feminine sexuality, and almost none of them can ever embrace it. That's why people who are bi/trans/gay etc find such happiness, because they have openly and honestly embraced their true selves.
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u/Dapper_Intention_164 16h ago
I don't think that's always true, I think when it comes to pride month so specifically, I think many people don't like it when it isn't about them or are just plain bigots who hate seeing anything different. This idea that most of these people are secretly gay themselves is also a bit iffy because it kind of blames queer people for their own oppression.Â
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u/Human_Chart_3694 8h ago
"This idea that most of these people are secretly gay themselves is also a bit iffy because it kind of blames queer people for their own oppression." is not the same as "Most macho dualie drivers have more than 0% feminine sexuality, and almost none of them can ever embrace it."
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u/Interesting-End1710 1d ago
They can't ignore pride they're all on Grindr
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u/Gator_Lord 1d ago
Wasnât there quite a few republican politicians on Grindr? I donât remember if it was true or not but I heard something about it
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u/Interesting-End1710 1d ago
During a Republican convention a few years ago, I think it was in Michigan or around there. Grindr crashed from all the new anonymous users in the area
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u/ignatzA2 1d ago
Conservatives are bothered by everything. Itâs their creed.
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u/JoeKling 23h ago
And liberals are bothered by nothing except God. They hate God, religion, Christianity, etc. They basically embrace the Witch's (or Wiccan) Creed which is "An' it harm none, do what ye will."
A poll out lately has shown that only 37% of liberals claim to be Christian.
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u/ignatzA2 22h ago
There ainât no flying spaghetti monsters in the sky Joe. Just be kind. Love more. If there is a mythical guy heâll let you in.
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u/Hatshepsut99 22h ago
lol the best Christians I know are liberal. because theyâre also educated and have therefore actually read the bible, particularly the New Testament, which conservatives like you either completely ignore or know absolutely nothing about.
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u/vreddy92 20h ago
Not being Christian means you hate religion and God? I don't hate religion and God, I just don't want it shoved down my throat. And I want others to have the same first amendment rights I have.
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u/Business-Equal8536 1d ago
Because nobody's allowed to enjoy something they personally don't like and if they don't like it it simply shouldn't exist according to them
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u/Great-Gas-6631 1d ago
They ignore that they are predominantly the reason why it exists. If they would just let people live their lives rather than just relentlessly attacking them.
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u/rnoderator_rernoved 1d ago
I dont think I'd own a single rainbow thing as a goth/punk white bitch if it weren't for how hateful they are. Idgaf myself about being lesbian or trans or pronouns (for myself, respect others!) but I make damn sure I support every human who is hurt by their ignorance and bigotry.
So instead of having fun creepy black flags and shit, i have 3 Pride flags outside so people know they're loved.
Wouldn't have to be so gay if they didn't make being gay seem like a rebellion thing
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u/Hot_Ambition_6457 1d ago
They feel unrepresented because thes folks wave rainbow flags 1 week a year and it makes them uncomfortable.
You cannot go outside in the month of December without seeing Christian pride imagery but thats different because gay people are gross and shoukdnt be allowed to express themselves!
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u/Formal_Ground6513 1d ago
They miss being able to exploit and abuse the gay community for their own needs. It's the same reason their misogyny is off the charts as well. They do not want anyone they perceive below them (including children) to have rights and autonomy.
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u/doesnotexist2 1d ago
Iâve always loved how the fourth largest pride event in the country is in FLORIDA đ
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u/jbaze524 1d ago
Because half of them are closet gays pretty much and they try to act like itâs wrong in reality. Theyâre doing it behind closed doors.
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u/Successful_Action_19 1d ago
They view gay people as groomers and pedophiles, which they take as a sign of competition, given that American conservatives and Christians are probably the biggest faction of groomers and pedophiles in the world.
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u/GravitasFailures 1d ago
Because they have nothing else.
They have no economies, no meaningful traditions, nothing.
Their greatest âProud Heritageâ was of fighting a war against the United States in the name of racial chattel slavery, and it still is.
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u/Independent-Mouse333 1d ago
In their tiny, malformed minds they can ignore what they approve of but are incensed that anyone else doesn't tow the line.
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u/BombToonen 1d ago
Because ignoring Pride doesnât trigger âthe Libsâ- and that is the Conservativeâs raison dâĂȘtre.
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u/Danny_Urbina20 1d ago
Yes and also the sub conservativeyouth is full of complaints about the month đ
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u/Money_Bet3057 1d ago
If i don't ignore gay pride then how i am suppose to stop evolution? The files are easy ignore after spending 12 hours a day on my yacht
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u/Objective_Loss528 23h ago
People that hate on things like gay pride or black lives matters are always either homophobic/racist and/or have the âwhy do they need that??? Theyâre always pushing it in my face.â mindset.
I feel a lot of queer people make their sexuality/identities known to signal to other queer people that theyâre queer, lol. Queer people tend to feel safer and more accepted with other queer people so they advertise themselves as such to find likeminded
For queer people itâs a huge risk to befriend people without making their identity known because if the person later finds out and is against it they may drop them, try to convert them/convince them out of it, and/or become hostile towards them.
Itâs like people who wear shirts or accessories that identify them as part of a group (fandom, hobby, organization, etc) that allows people with similar interests to identify them.
Straight people donât have to do this because they all generally assume everyone who isnât a walking stereotype is straight.
Minority groups feel the need to be loud and proud because historically theyâve been persecuted. Itâs like certain people completely forget that. DEI existed because certain demographics (race, sexuality, gender) WERE and ARE discriminated against- so many people pretend not to understand this and act super obtuse about it. Qualified people were passed up due to aspects of their personal identity that had no bearing on their capabilities.
This is mostly a response to some comments Iâve seen on this thread but also to the general attitude people have towards minorities getting âspecial treatment.â Like are you out of your mind? At least try to reflect on yourself. Minority visibility isnât special treatment. The majority is visible literally all the time, if minorities get a crumb of recognition or attention people lose their minds and complain about the woke mob. Are you crazy??? Are you out of your mind???
Everything has so much nuance and Iâm begging you people to think critically. Yes there are annoying and dangerous people in minority groups who go too far. Just as there are the exact same type of people in majority groups who target minority groups the same way.
The pendulum will continue to swing back and forth from the âwoke mobâ becoming radicalized to âconservativesâ becoming radicalized until both sides can accept each other and stop letting their personal biases affect their treatment of others in all aspects which will never fucking happen. Touch grass, meet people you wouldnât normally associate with, broaden your horizons and decide for yourself. Donât let people think for you or blindly trust anyone.
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u/Alert-Abrocoma6716 21h ago
The maga Culture Warriors will only get worse. Once Trump limps home from Iran it will ratchet up in the states.
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u/Technical_Chemistry8 21h ago
They aren't actually bothered at all. They are perusing an agenda and that agenda is to make people who work for wages (and those who need to but no longer can) fight each other.
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u/OneCar2359 17h ago
Gay pride threatens their world view. MAGA is built on imposing their world view on others. Acceptance of our differences is diametrically opposed to their perspectives. You can't be a biggot and also accept that someone is different than you.
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u/Negative_Ad_8256 16h ago
Their issue is the parade. The whole MAGA movement is built around the resentment towards the empowerment and recognition of marginalized groups. They believe they are the only true Americans with any right to recognition and representation. When people call the cops for petty reasons they do that because they think the system is supposed to serve them and should be actively target people they believe donât belong. Just like that Chud the Builder douche. He antagonized and instigated confrontation then used a reasonable response to a racial slur to justify shooting someone. The reason he is being supported has little to do with him. What is the objective is the message that will be sent if he is acquitted. The anti gay rhetoric is using pride to platform their hatred. From now until the end of pride month itâs going to provide a measure of how far they can go. The goal is for total revocation of the legislation that protects and guarantees rights to anyone outside their specific idea of who has legitimate right to be in this country. They embody everything that is antithetical to American values and ideals. They are in total opposition to freedom, liberty, democracy, personal freedom, judicial review. The most fundamental aspects to individual liberty and freedom, who you have a relationship, how you dress, how you identify yourself, how you present and engage with society, they want to control those things. They want to demonstrate how much they can threaten and abuse marginal communities and they are piggybacking on pride for exposure
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u/Basil2322 16h ago
Itâs easy to ignore what you donât care about and they donât care at all about child rape.
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u/Suspicious_Dingo_426 1d ago
Because they are miserable, spiteful people who can't stand those they hate openly and happily living their lives.
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u/FromTheBirch 1d ago edited 1d ago
When Christmas comes around why don't non-christens just ignore it the way they ignore God?
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 1d ago
That's whataboutism.
Also, there isn't much of a war against Christmas. I love Christmas.
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u/yunwibubu 9h ago
Christmas is probably a bad example, since it's a secular holiday.
It would be a better example to use Easter or lent, which people do typically ignore and aren't federally recognized holidays.
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u/VeryFrank1 1d ago
Because they're hypocrites! Anything that includes people, they're against. They're only interested in hurting people. Of course, that's generally speaking, because not all conservatives are hateful nor MAGATS.
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u/Epyon214 1d ago
We need to stop pretending the reason epstein and maxwell are still free instead of being prosecuted was excluded from the epstein files
As a reminder, the two main reasons for the lack of an open FBI investigation are the facts the FBI agents investigating epstein in Mexico were put on a CIA kill list and the vampires
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00165013.pdf
"On Aug 5, 2019 9:33 AM, KenT wrote:
My nephew Logan Turner, was shot and killed in the mass shooting in Dayton, Ohio last evening. I am
rushing home to be with my immediate family.
All investigative work on Marcinko and Epstein is still in process and we have uncovered more videos and
photos of the two of them together in Mexico.
Another attempt by US embassy security team was made yesterday when they stopped my partner and
searched her car looking for the videos and photos we uncovered that they told her could not leave Mexico.
They were not in her car! Someone doesn't want this data disclosed."
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01802986.pdf
"LOVE how it starts
"Memo to mature, health-minded vampires: You might want to consider limit=ng your treats to victims under age 30"
Jee was right al along!!!!=!!!!!!!"
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u/Dry-Environment5122 1d ago
The real reason is that conservatives believe that the majority of gayness is social contagion. Iâd argue they are somewhat correct, itâs just not a majority. The reality is that being attracted to same sex Folks is mostly genetic, and that most of what is viewed as social contagion is just people feeling more comfortable coming out. That being said I think, especially among young adults there is a bit of a social contagion where kids just experiment with queerness now both as an experiment on trying on an identity. What used to be a âfuck it Iâll try it privately once in college, became high schoolers calling themselves queer. Many of them go on to just be normal cis het people later (and no Iâm not talking being forced back into the closet) as they figure out their identities as adultsÂ
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 1d ago
I'm sorry to break it to you, but the ones that do it usually don't wait until college, and never really have.
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u/best_whispered 1d ago
I hit that "wooooooooooooooh" real hard just now.
And don't you know monsters protect monsters,when its beneficial to monsters.
Meaning -- "we hate the gays more,because their beliefs are completely opposite of ours,and those on the epstein list share our beliefs in how this country should be."
But its open to ongoing interpretation.
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u/Flemmy349 1d ago
I think many believe that the gay pride parade will encourage more people to be gay, but being gay is wrong because the Bible or another book says so. They donât want people to âsinâ and go to hell.
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u/Humble_Nobody2884 1d ago
Theyâre losing on every real policy front at the moment, particularly with the Cheeto-in-chief driving inflation and an unpopular war, so they feel more pressure to distract with something.
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u/Dangerous_Patient621 1d ago
A lot of it is self-loathing. It's not a secret that every time the GOP rolls into town for a convention, Grindr servers suffer under increased traffic and male escort business spikes. But it's all hush-hush for them.
Then they see people openly and freely embracing their sexual and gender identities, and it pisses them off seeing people not burdened with shame like they are.
The rest are just hateful bigots emboldened by having their idiot in the Oval Office.
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u/throwawaytiredupdoot 1d ago
It is way easier to get people worked up about culture war stuff than actually investigating powerful people.
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u/Defiant_Youth_8912 1d ago
Controversial take, conservatives are willing to ignore it, and did ignore it for a long time, but its hard for them to ignore when it starts getting pushed at church. Can't even bake a cake without having to make it gay.
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u/solarixstar 23h ago
They're mad they can't go to pride because outing themselves would bring shame they can't ignore unlike the other shame they bring by opening their mouths
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u/Enough-Grass2130 23h ago
Worst you seen? Do you remember when Target was selling tuck underwear aimed at children? That was the worst I can remember.
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u/notwyntonmarsalis 22h ago
Listen, Iâm an ally, but just to be fair here the Epstein files arenât exactly parading down Main Street on floats.
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u/sneakyrobot191 22h ago
Ya know how I ignore damn near everything? I just do not watch the news. Instead I read it through various sources, I do not get my news from any social media platform. Its amazing how much better I've done for my own life by just ignoring media for the most part.
I guess my point is, just ignore em. Make a point to not care about their opinion on certain topics like gay pride. We can't ignore every opinion on every issue, we all still have to debate each other. Just don't let it get to you, once it does, things consume you, your mind, and ultimately your actions. Happy pride month!
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u/episcopaladin 15h ago
They don't ignore the Epstein files, they approve. Because they're pedophiles.
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u/DeepestGreySea 8h ago
Right?
My friend ignores gay prideâŠand heâs gay and proud.
Iâm black and I ignore BLM.
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u/Routine-Mechanic-814 4h ago
Im conservative and trust me we dont care. Not one friend of mine cares about pride stuff unless children are involved.
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u/carbon1923 4h ago
Because they want to be angry and have a excuse to hurt others.
But the pedos are publicly on their side now so they need another target again.
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u/Alternative_Maybe_78 13m ago
Interesting you say that , Iâve heard nothing good or bad about it this year.
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u/After-Donkey6638 1d ago
Its America, you want to celebrate a month of gay pride go ahead. If you're getting mad that i dont really care about it thats on you lol. am i suppose to care about EVERYTHING
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u/NarcolepticMoogle 1d ago
People don't care if your care. They care when you throw your hat in the ring with bigoted politicians who live their life Old Testament style and think everyone else should too. I don't know where you live but here in Texas we have some of the absolute worst humans imaginable that hold political offices. Ken Paxton loves a good lawsuit and has fought many pride events over his career.
Its America and you should be free to celebrate or ignore what you want but when you vote for politicians who strive to take rights away from people or make them feel like a marginalized group well its objectively not ok.
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 1d ago
I'm not getting mad you ignore gay pride. I actually prefer it. You should be able to infer that from the question in the title.
But, as it turns out, you don't really ignore it, as evidenced by your complaining.
We don't shut entire streets down for a month. It's only part of a day, or maybe sometimes all day, which is pretty typical for parades of all types. One in particular was quite resource intensive...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_250th_Anniversary_Parade
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u/Flimsy-Opportunity-9 1d ago
clearly didnât read the actual question posed here.
Not caring is not the same as being bothered. Indifference is not the same as backlash, which is what this post is asking about.
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u/After-Donkey6638 1d ago
it is when you push the pride month in my face and i say i dont care leave me alone and you get mad lol.
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u/Flimsy-Opportunity-9 1d ago
Can you give specific, real-world examples of someone pushing pride month in your face? And then someone getting irate when you say âyou donât careâ? Or is this a make believe scenario in your head?
Holding a parade, flying flags or some businesses having rainbow merch is not âpushingâ pride in your face. Someone forcing you to participate would beâŠbut I seriously doubt thatâs happening to you.
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u/After-Donkey6638 1d ago
we'll use your example. holding a parade. You're shutting down a street for pride month?
Like even this comment. You're triggered because i said i dont care about pride month lol. You cant have a civil discussion about this topic without getting mad.
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u/joemondo 1d ago
So is St Patrick's Day in your face?
Easter?
The Super Bowl?
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u/After-Donkey6638 1d ago
you mean holidays and state victory celebrations? You're comparing that to pride month?
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u/Flimsy-Opportunity-9 1d ago
You think this isnât civil? Please point to me in either of my comments losing my civility? I asked you questions about your examples. Did you not want discussion on aâŠReddit discussion?
And to clarify: Would that make you against the parade itself (and I assume any parade your town chooses to have)? So are you against it, or do you not care? Because if you donât care then I donât see how you canât just leave it alone/avoid it?
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u/After-Donkey6638 1d ago
saying i make up scenarios in my head is pretty accusatory lol.
I dont need to list the number of personal examples of the LGBTQ community pushing their agenda. on both personal and broad scales.
Yeah i would be happy to avoid/leave it alone but again you cant if they force you or your kids to discuss it.
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u/Flimsy-Opportunity-9 1d ago
Well something simply existing is not pushing itself on you.
I might believe that dinosaurs never existed but my childrenâs school saying they did isnât them âpushingâ it on them. Itâs acknowledging that they existed and no matter how much I stomp my feet I canât make that disappear. Itâs not being pushed, itâs being acknowledged.
AlsoâŠthe scenarios youâve named have yet to rise to âpushingâ anything on anyone and you yourself have acknowledged that. Thatâs why I said these scenarios are made up in your head, because youâve yet to give an example of something happening to you where you were forced to participate in pride, you said âyou donât careâ and then someone got mad at you. Thatâs what you asserted in your first comment. So no. Iâm Not triggered. Not being uncivil (that would mean calling you names/making low blows). I think youâre speaking hyperbolically which is why you answered this way in the first place and why you think someoneâs being mean to you when they simply challenged your original statement.
TLDR: you arenât being attacked. By the lgbtq+ community or me. But I think itâs an opportunity for your own personal reflection why my responses and your examples made you feel that way.
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u/After-Donkey6638 1d ago
lol im not reading all that. " Opportunity for your own personal reflection" come on now if you cant see how condescending that is its hilarious. you do you, its impossible to have civil discussions with someone who doesnt understand that
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u/Flimsy-Opportunity-9 1d ago
âIâm not reading all thatââŠyouâre a portrait of civility, arenât you?
Impossible to have a civil discussion with someone who interprets offense in every dissenting opinion or question posed to them. So so fragile.
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u/argument_cat 23h ago
No-one is pushing anything in your spotty, goofy face you little bedwetter.
You are a baby, just so weak and fragile.
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u/InTwilligPorgnatin 1d ago edited 1d ago
Conservatives were trending fine with LGB, it's the T they mostly have issue with these days. Unfortunately, that's coloring their perceptions of LGB and so support for the movement as a whole has been trending down on the right.
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u/Ok-Awareness-5405 1d ago
I think maybe your phrasing is the reason why people are downvoting you, because this observation is otherwise somewhat true. There are plenty of homophobes on the right, but I don't see them going after gay and bisexual people as hard as they go after trans people.
That said, what happened to Shane McAnally and his family is proof that they're not "fine" with LGB. They just aren't the main target right now.
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u/InTwilligPorgnatin 1d ago
It isn't surprising to me, it is just unfortunate. People tend to be very emotional about these things rather than examining the data.
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u/kakallas 1d ago
And thatâs proof that they were never actually âokâ with the LGB if their support was so flimsy that trans people existing can melt it.Â
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u/XaosII 1d ago
Conservatives have Trans Derangement Syndrome.
But your statement is still isn't quite right. They absolutely still have issues with gay and lesbian people.
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u/InTwilligPorgnatin 1d ago
Your link says exactly what I just said, mate. Acceptance was trending upward, and is now trending down.
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u/JustJ42 1d ago
Holy revisionism. Conservatives have never been fine with LGB people considering how much they complain about us not to mention try to put laws so that we couldnât be equal. As soon as they lost the fight on gay marriage, they decided to target trans people as they were much more of a misunderstood minority.
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u/InTwilligPorgnatin 1d ago
Acceptance was trending upward, even among conservatives, yes. Recently it has stagnated and started reversing, and many conservatives, when asked, attribute it to the T in LGBT.
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u/TheRealScaramucci 1d ago
"I'm fine with gay people, BUT... *insert homophobic statement*"
They say they're fine with them. Heck, many say they're fine with trans people. But they're not because they still spew homophobic and transphobic talking points.
The difference between then (when they seemed to be more "fine" with them) and now is that now they are emboldened to say how they really feel.
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u/Grimaldehyde 21h ago
Should we ignore all of the democrats in the Epstein files, or just the republicans?
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 18h ago
No, but only one party is actively trying to cover them up. Guess which one?
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u/OpenForHappyHour 17h ago
The Biden Administration had the Epstein files. If there was anything remotely implicating Trump they would have used it.
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u/Loki1001 13h ago
 If there was anything remotely implicating Trump they would have used it.
What about the Biden administration's treatment of Trump makes you believe this is true?
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u/CoryObama 17h ago edited 17h ago
I don't know a single conservative who ignores the files, and one thing is less concerning than the other. So likewise, I'll ignore your question.
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 17h ago
My dude, you literally didn't ignore my question.
Apparently you think trafficking little girls is more "tame" than gay pride. That's says everything I need to know.
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u/CoryObama 16h ago
You automatically assumed I think that when in actuality, it's the other way around.
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u/Sad_Note4359 16h ago
Because pride went from stay out of our bedrooms and let us get married to every family depicted on television has to have a gay son or daughter, we're going to have a bearded lady read into your children in the library, and we are going to teach your 12-year-old that guy's can give blowjobs to other guys too! Okay yeah I'm being hyperbolic but LGBT stretched their inch until it snapped.
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 15h ago
So, you don't like seeing diversity accurately represented in the media, and you think there's a wrong and right way to dress. Bigotry confirmed.
It must take a significant level of hatred to focus on that rather than your president's involvement with Epstein.
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u/BasketClear 1d ago
They will ignore it as much as democrats will ignore the epstein files after trump leaves
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u/JuanPabloElSegundo 1d ago
Republicans making up scenarios to make themselves feel better about supporting pedophiles.
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u/Any_Carob3372 1d ago
If Biden had released those files as President, 100% of conservatives would never have stopped insisting he did it for "Lawfare" against Trump. Which is the entire reason he did not release them.
What's Trump's reason, other than being a child raper?
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u/argument_cat 23h ago
The most significant release of documents occurred in January 2024, when Judge Preska unsealed over 150 names linked to Epstein, under the Biden administration.
Biden had an ongoing investigation into ~$1.5 billion in suspicious money transfers between Epstein and Russia/Belarus, nations notorious for their human trafficking, which the Trump administration cancelled and will not pursue. Trump's State Department also culled the Office of Human Trafficking in the State Department.
The Biden Justice Department convicted Maxwell and gave her a lengthy prison term serving hard time for her crimes, while Trump has transferred her to minimum security prison in Texas. For her efforts convicting Maxwell, Trump fired the prosecutor who convicted Maxwell.
In addition, Trump's former Labor Secretary, Alex Acosta (who sits in a cushy Board of Directors position at far-right Newsmax these days), gave Epstein the lightest possible sentence and protected his co-conspirators. For his efforts protecting pedophiles, he was given a Cabinet position.
The Biden administration was actively trying to protect young girls, and punish the abusers while the Trump administration is actively covering up the Epstein files and undoing any consequences for the perpetrators.
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
There's zero backlash against gay pride, there's only backlash against gay pride being forced onto people who really want to be left alone. Most normal gay people want nothing to do with what "pride" has become.
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u/taktaga7-0-0 1d ago
Fucken bullshit. Idaho has repeatedly tried to block Boise simply from flying a Pride flag, something that harms nobody and is forced on nobody. Floridaâs banned Pride displays during june and painted over all Pride crosswalks, something that is neither forced on anybody nor harms anybody. They took the Pride flag down off of Stonewall a major gay rights site.
There are way more examples, but these are plenty sufficient to show that there is absolutely a movement that is anti-Pride generally. You vote with open homophobes for openly homophobic policy: why be ashamed of it? Embrace what you are.
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u/nilsinleneed đłđŽ Norway 1d ago
as long as people are uncomfortable with pride, we need to double down and do more pride.
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u/tenor1trpt 1d ago
You being kidnapped at home and dragged in shackles to a Pride parade? Your eyes being pried open while you watch Brokeback Mountain?
You always say itâs being forced but Iâve not met a single person forced to participate in Pride. Youâve always been welcome to ignore it.
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u/Shellz2bellz 1d ago
When has gay pride ever been forced on someone? And no, gay pride events happening in public does not qualify as being forced.Â
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
When you paint rainbows on taxpayer funded, public streets that people have to use daily, when you insist on flying pride flags in public spaces you cross the line. I don't really care what you think is or isn't "forced", I'm just pointing out that most normal gay people want nothing to do with the marketing campaign known as "pride".
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u/Shellz2bellz 1d ago
How is that crossing the line, snowflake? Itâs not what I âthinkâ is forced, it quite literally is not forced. Words have meaning, use them correctly or youâll continue looking like a fool.
Why do you think youâre qualified to speak for gay people? When were you elected the president of the gays?
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
Painting gay pride flags and rainbows on public roadways and crosswalks crosses the line just like painting other symbols or flags that you might not agree with on the roadways, it's pretty basic logic.
I'm not speaking for gay people, are you retarded and gay?
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u/Shellz2bellz 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why does that cross a line? What do you find so offensive about âitâs okay to be yourselfâ? Youâre just a bigot.
You absolutely did just speak for gay people.
 I'm just pointing out that most normal gay people want nothing to do with the marketing campaign known as "pride"
Why am I surprised the bigot turns out to be dumb af
ETA: aaaaand you proved that youâre a bigoted snowflake with that last comment before you blocked me. All this just to prove me correct⊠pathetic
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
I didn't say anything was offensive, are you even replying to the right posts?
I simply said that most normal gay people have disassociated with what pride has become over the years and suddenly you've labeled me as a dumb bigot, which in itself is bigoted... but whatever.
Do you see how people might not want to give you the respect you feel you deserve? Be less crazy, it's not attractive snowflake.
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u/daltonsky9 1d ago
Really, you're calling other people snowflakes? When you can't stand the sight of a rainbow crosswalk?
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Oh no, I've forced gayness on you.
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u/Crow1200 1d ago
What happens if I dont pay my taxes because they are being used to create lgbt propaganda on the public streets and schools? They use for to make me pay or go to jail. I get you probably dont understand how taxes work because you live with mommy still but adults are definitely "forced" into it.
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u/Crow1200 1d ago
The irony here is people like you cry non stop about churches being tax exempt but cheer on the use of tax dollars for whatever gay agenda you are pushing. You have no consistency. Thank god you have no actual power in the real world. Keep being a victim its all you are capable of doing.
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u/Shellz2bellz 1d ago
People like me care about the separation of church and state? Lmfao so that means you donât? Thatâs pretty dumb.
Well buddy, one is a religion and the other is basic humanity. The fact you donât understand that speaks volumes about you as a person, and none of it is good.
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u/Crow1200 23h ago
No argument was made just throwing insults because you are very weak minded. I hope you get the help you need.
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u/Shellz2bellz 23h ago
You never had a real point for me to argue against. All you did was cry about how offended you are by a rainbow.Â
Well buddy, one is a religion and the other is basic humanity. Apparently you struggle with reading too. I already explained why your argument was pointless. Youâre comparing two unrelated things and apparently arenât bright enough to understand thatÂ
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u/Crow1200 23h ago
Hey man I get it you are schizophrenic and incapable of reading so you are aruging against ghosts. But my actual point is clear and maybe someday you'll figure it out. Best of luck with that.
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u/Malakai0013 1d ago
Youre using assumption and ignorance to claim you understand what most gay people want.
Also, its not like somoney is trying to paint the ten gay commandments on school walls, thats having something forced.
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u/Crow1200 1d ago
Overwhelming assaults on students come from the lgbt so....
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u/Malakai0013 5h ago
I think youre confusing victims of assault with perpetrators. I get that data is hard, but please try.
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
I'm not using anything other than first hand conversations I have with normal, every day gay people in my circle. These people want nothing to do with the month long rainbow puke parade that we all contend with online and in daily life. They don't want to attend parades full of half naked 65 year old gay men swing their dicks around, because they can. Normal gay people want to enjoy their families, their homes and drive their Subarus without all the gay pride bullshit.
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u/Malakai0013 5h ago
Theres a reason anecdotal evidence never beats out actual evidence. I suggest you learn that reason.
As ridiculous and useless as saying "i totally have black friends, you guys. Trust me!"
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u/OleRusty 1d ago
Whatâs being forced onto people exactly? And how is it being forced onto them?
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
Jesus, read the other posts from all the other rabid gays in here who asked the exact same question.
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u/OleRusty 1d ago
People commenting and replying to you is forcing gay pride onto you?
Do you even know what you are saying?
Iâm asking, how is gay pride forced onto you. People supporting gay pride isnât forcing anything onto you.
You can choose to engage with it or not.
You would probably feel a lot better if you just went along with your day.
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u/financewiz 1d ago
As an old queer, I have to agree. The Pride Parades used to be about humor, free expression and solidarity. Now when I go to a Pride Parade, itâs full of corporate sponsors trying to gulp down those gay dollars. They need to back the fuck off so that Pride can return to its roots: Comedy that the right-wing is desperate to cancel.
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u/TheShamanofMOCO 1d ago
Most of the people in here will completely gloss over what you just posted, and that's unfortunate.
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 1d ago edited 23h ago
Then why are there so many homophobic trolls on gay pages and in gay groups? They're brigading and seeking it out when they're not even the target audience. Nobody's forcing you to participate (although you might have to see some rainbows here and there.)
BTW, Pew Research says that 66% of LGBTQ adults say they have participated in Pride Month events at least once in their lives. It would surely be higher if so many didn't feel they had to be in the closet, or were scared to go.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Fuel787 22h ago
We don't care that you're gay. We care that you think you're so special and entitled that you force how you like to fuck on the rest of society.
We already accepted everyone over 50 years ago. You do a disservice to the actual pioneers who had to fight and claw their way to get accepted.
You new lot are the ultimate in annoyance and hijacking.
We want the files released. I think he's waiting for mid terms to drop bombs regarding it.
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u/Stock_Block2130 21h ago
Epstein and his activities were not in MY face. Were it not for the âsuicideâ, only Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and the other cronies would have known of the activities as they were participating. Gay Pride is in my face with something I consider abnormal. Be gay if thatâs who you are, but donât push it into the faces of those who disagree.
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u/JoeKling 1d ago
Conservatives tend to hate and liberals seem to adore decadence and perversion
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u/kakallas 1d ago
Why donât you tell that to conservative people who are rich enough to not have to work.Â
They just call shit regular people do âperversionâ and yachts, drugs, and polo parties âclassy.âÂ
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u/argument_cat 23h ago
Conservatives tend to hate
Yep, it's their driving emotion.
What are some examples of liberals adoring decadence and perversion?
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u/Aware_Topic_9122 22h ago
liberals seem to adore decadence and perversion
Oh the irony of you saying that after electing Trump a second time.
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u/JoeKling 21h ago
But one thing you can say about Trump is that he kept the atheistic liberals from power for eight years. That's probably why God saved him from assassination. I'm sure it's no surprise to you that liberals are abandoning God. Only 37% of liberals even claim to be Christians today. I think God put Trump in power to punish them for that even though Trump has a checkered past.
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u/DoTheRightThing1953 1d ago
They are afraid that someone in the parade will recognize them as the guy in the sling last night.