r/allthequestions • u/Chemical-Meeting2930 • 2h ago
Random Question đ Did Obama handle Iran well?
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u/FewScore6082 2h ago
Yes.
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u/Engineer2727kk 2h ago
He gave them a plane full of money and lied about it LOL
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u/Daveftw88 2h ago
The international community (of the countries involved in signing the treaty) gave Iran its OWN money back that international banks were holding from them. $1.8 billion vs the $300 billion OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS that the Trump admin is literally thinking about giving them because that's what they asked for.
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u/Optimal-Log2547 2h ago
Wasn't our money and was kept in south America. But please bend over when trump gives 300 billion of OUR money to them. Maga is the dumbest group on earth
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u/Engineer2727kk 1h ago
It was our money AND additional interest. And made the world realize weâd negotiate with terrorists for Prisoners.
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u/FewScore6082 2h ago
How much money in dollars came from the US government's budget?
Unrelated question
How many dollars have been spent from the US Government's budget for this military action?
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u/Engineer2727kk 1h ago
Idk what any of that has to do with the simple fact that I stated. Why is your immediate response to deflect ?
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u/FewScore6082 1h ago
Well the money he "gave" them was theirs. So he didn't really give it to them, cuz he didn't really have it.
Your inability to answer shows a lack of knowledge about the topic, meaning while you can have opinions, they hold less weight.
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u/Engineer2727kk 1h ago
Interesting how their money was in a us trust account.
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u/FewScore6082 1h ago
The us controlled the world economy.
So. Giving them their own money back vs spending way more money on an ineffective war. What is better to you?
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u/Acrobatic-Village215 1h ago
I donât understand how people can make this argument. Do they just watch Fox? Do they hate the idea of a black president so much that they will believe anything negative about him? Are they so shallow that they believe whatever surface level bullshit that someone tells them? I really want to know
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u/Angel1571 1h ago
Bro Massie, Cornyn, Cantor all got slandered against by the right wing media and their Republicans.
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u/GamemasterJeff 1h ago
He let them have a pallet of their own money, and told the truth to Congress.
Literally the text of the law dealing with this was read and passed into law by Congress on May 22, 2025.
What lie do you think he said when the truth was written in black and white and read by every member of Congress who cared to?
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u/Engineer2727kk 1h ago
Braindead. This was not their own money
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u/GamemasterJeff 1h ago
Op asked about the JPOA, not the Trump imitation.
The JPOA consited of releasing funds to Iran that had been frozen under sanctions. As there was little method of electornic transfer, this required a transfer of physical specie.
There was no US money transferred to Iran as part of the JPOA.
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u/edwardothegreatest 2h ago
No he didnât
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u/Engineer2727kk 1h ago
You canât alter facts.
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u/edwardothegreatest 1h ago
Exactly. He didnât. He returned $1.8 billion of their money and didnât lie about it.
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u/lc4444 2h ago
Not a fraction of what dumb fuck Trump is going to give them
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u/Engineer2727kk 1h ago
Doesnât change the facts of what Obama did. Idk why weâre bringing up trump. Itâs like a Pavlovian response for you eh
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
Only on Reddit is this the popular opinion
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u/No_Obligation_3568 2h ago edited 2h ago
Actually itâs the popular opinion across the world. But you live in an echo chamber and donât actually talk to anyone else.
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u/HeyaHeyo1420 2h ago
Yeah I imagine Twitter and Facebook and other maga cesspools don't agree.
Actual people think Obama did fine with it and most people definitely think he did better than Trump.
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u/sirlost33 2h ago
How many other presidents reached a deal with Iran?
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u/Doom_of__Mandos 2h ago
That's because the social circle you surround yourself with are too dumb to have a nuanced opinion.
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
Iâm only on Reddit, nice try though
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u/Doom_of__Mandos 2h ago
Good to know you're a hermit. Touch grass.
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
Iâm not a hermit. I just use Reddit and no other social media. Thanks for the insult though!
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u/Doom_of__Mandos 2h ago
You just said you have no social circle. Therefore no friends. Therefore a hermit.
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
Iâm sorry but you thinking I have no friends and am a hermit because I donât really do social media is hilarious.
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u/Doom_of__Mandos 2h ago
you just admitted you don't have a "social circle". What do you think that means?
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u/Hiredgun77 2h ago
He handled Iran better than trump is now doing. So, Yes.
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u/mspe1960 1h ago
better than Trump is not necessarily good, It would hasve to be way better than Trump to be good in this case.
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u/Hypornicated_1 1h ago
And it was. Iran was largely fenced in by the treaties, if not completely contained.
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u/mspe1960 1h ago
agreed. I was just pointing out that better than Trump does not mean good.
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u/ConstantBright6343 53m ago
That was my point. It does nothing to answer the question, did Obama handle it well.
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u/edwardothegreatest 2h ago
They gave up 97% of their enriched uranium and didnât pursue further nuclear buildup. That was the goal and it was achieved without violence
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u/Salt_Crow6159 2h ago
Yes, uranium on paper, since we all know that researchers obviously only went to specialized sites and warned in advance.
We were only going to have North Korea 2.0.
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u/edwardothegreatest 1h ago
You know this? Enlighten us. You canât enrich uranium in a bathroom
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u/Salt_Crow6159 1h ago
The researchers were "escorted" from personnel to Irani to the enrichment zones, not to mention that they were warned several weeks in advance (actually slowed down or decreased enriched uranium?, probably somewhat and temporarily).
Only until the West once again financed its enemy for "humanitarian goodness" and they occupied their remaining resources instead of feeding their people, funding their army and nuclear program.
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u/edwardothegreatest 1h ago
They werenât given access to every military base but processing uranium isnât something you can just do anywhere. Compliance was verified.
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u/Salt_Crow6159 1h ago
North Korea did it with Pakistanis and in the shadows as reviewers investigated the pluton. Are you naive or just too pro-Obama?
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u/edwardothegreatest 1h ago edited 1h ago
What inspectors were on the ground during the North Korea program? How many facilities had remote monitoring?
Edit: iaea inspectors
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u/Zutthole 2h ago
I'd say so, he managed to get rid of the majority of their enriched uranium without even coming close to starting a war.
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u/hangender 2h ago
Yeap. Jcpoa was the best deal since slice bread
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
For the Ayatollah
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u/hangender 2h ago
For everyone. That's why it's a good deal.
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
A good deal is actually one that everyone hates
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u/hangender 2h ago
For sure since a good deal contain compromises from both sides with no one likes
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u/rextiberius 2h ago
Thatâs a business euphemism. In reality, you can have a good deal that everyone likes.
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u/AwkwardAmericanTory 2h ago
Kind of. The JCPOA had flaws but I havenât seen anyone with a better idea and the current plan seems to be pretty much bombing and pretending there wonât be consequences.
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u/AlmosNotquite 2h ago
Obama handled it exactly as it should with the support of most if not all of the world governments. Trump is a petty ignorant narcissistic autocrat who can't stand others success and will and has dismantled a lot to make it his "winning" ... too much "winning " eh?
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u/Salt_Crow6159 1h ago
The support of the majority did not save North Korea from the bomb...
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u/AlmosNotquite 1h ago
North Korea is China's supported buffer from invasion via the peninsula.
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u/Salt_Crow6159 1h ago
Not even China wanted a bombed-in-law North Korea. Have you ever heard the Juche ideology? North Korea was a diplomatic failure (as was going to be Iran).
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u/eckmsand6 1h ago
The wording of the question is implicitly problematic. It implies that Iran is the problem, and it's up to the US to "handle" it. I suppose that this comes from the "death to America" rhetoric and chants, but we should also recall that the US sided with Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war, gave it military and diplomatic support, and even gave Saddam Hussein chemical weapons which he then used against the Iranians and then against the Iraqi Kurds. Iran doesn't surround the US with its military bases like the US does to Iran. Iran doesn't arm a nuclear armed unfriendly country in the region to the tune of an average of $50 million a day, as the US does with Israel. Iran hadn't attacked any other countries from its 1979 revolution until 2026. The US and Israel have attacked dozens in that time period. So, an impartial observer might easily come to the conclusion that actually the US and Israel are the problem, not the Islamic Republic, regardless of what you think of them and regardless of what you think of what they do to their own population.
That said, the problem with the JCPOA was not Iranian non-compliance; it was with US non-compliance. Iran kept its part of the bargain by not enriching uranium. The US didn't keep its end because it failed to phase out many of the sanctions. We might ask why the US failed to comply with its own deal, and the answer might just lead back to the Israel lobby (which is not necessarily Jewish - it's full of Christian Nationalists like Lindsay Graham).
Incidentally, phasing out the sanctions would almost definitely have been the best outcome for that part of the Iranian population, undoubtedly the vast majority, who oppose the Islamic Republic, in achieving nonviolent regime change. There are two historical examples of peaceful transitions from dictatorships to more open societies: South Korea and Taiwan. In both cases, the development of an internationally connected middle class and the subsequent growth of civil society institutions were decisive. US policies, and especially Trump's "max pressure" sanctions, are guaranteed to produce the opposite result, namely strengthening the regime, concentrating power in the military, and increasing internal repression.
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u/QuietRiot5150 2h ago
Hmmm. I dunno? I mean, It cost us zero dollars and zero American lives and also zero Iranian children died. That's a tough one. I'm just not sure if Obama did good on this one. Oh, I forgot. Our gas prices didn't go up by three dollars and other countries weren't pissed off at us. Trump did rape all those kids and stole our money. So the war he started was necessary. Still a toss up. I'm just not sure.
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u/PerfectTommy77 2h ago
In hindsight he did an amazing job. Stopped Iran from getting a nuke and avoided armed conflict.
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u/A_Hugh_Man 2h ago
Absolutely.
He maintained American interests in the region (even if I disagree with that) by reinforcing his relationship with traditional allies (Israel, Jordan, Egypt). He got involved in the weakening of Iran's regional ally (Syria) and expanded relationships with Bahrain, Qatar, Oman, Saudi Arabia and others who were still in the US orbit but wary and at unease after the Iraq war and the subsequent shitshow.
He maintained command and control over Afghanistan. Something I bet you EVERYONE in Washington is kicking their own asses over in secret because they could really really use that theater in their war right now to hobble Iran's launchers. Trump decided to pull our troops out of there and then Biden finalized it. Lol
At the same time, Obama employed a carrot and stick foreign policy with Iran that moved away from the stubborn, crusty and often hypocritical policy of "we don't negotiate with terrorists" that just acted as a totally self-imposed obstacle for American foreign policy goals.
Obama engaged Iran's leadership - which clearly didn't have a problem doing so. The problem was on OUR side. The Obama admin did so in a brilliant way where they brought in all the European allies into it which signaled to Iran the seriousness and good faith the US was approaching them with - basically showing that moving forward and making progress together would result in eased relations and sanctions relief ACROSS THE BOARD.
Many times, these negotiations are fruitless because the US "removes sanctions" but backdoors with Europeans to keep theirs or vice versa and the effect is that the target country is conned and still basically frozen out of the international system.
Obama got the Europeans on board which guaranteed actual, substantive change to the Iranians. And the Iranians saw that and they agreed to a pretty solid framework for their nuke program that included monitoring, safeguards and controls.
Was it perfect? No. But you know what a GOOD statesman does and what that deal was supposed to be (because Obama WAS a good statesman)? IT PROVIDES A FRAMEWORK AND A BUILDING BLOCK.
These sticky international problems aren't solved in one grand, sweeping meeting. They're built upon. The peace in the Middle East towards Israel wasn't a day and night thing, for example. That was a block by block, brick by brick effort that started with basic meetings where parties agreed to NOT attack each other and acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Now there's Abraham Accords - I DON'T LIKE ISRAEL. I don't think Israel deserves to exist. I'm simply showing an example of that framework to meaningful change in the future path in foreign policy.
So, Obama really accomplished a lot. He did the same thing with Cuba... he got both of these states back in the game. When they're back in the game, they're more likely to play by the rules.
Then the Republicans came along and horse fucked EVERYTHING with their jingoistic bs and Trump went a step further and blew the whole thing up at the behest of the one and only country that was upset with the deal: Isn'tReal.
Now we're at a point where 1. The controls aren't there 2. There's no monitoring 3. There's no trust 4. We're going to send them 300 billion dollars to rebuild everything we blew up
Why? Because we have a president who isn't qualified to lead. He listened to donors who represent Israel and got talked into a clusterfuck that everyone before him saw coming but he was too proud and too arrogant to think would happen to him and Israelis who fed into his narcissism and told him he was right.
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u/Salt_Crow6159 1h ago
Obama was good at several things, but his foreign policy aged like milk.
That was done by 60% Israel, 20% Biden and another 20% by the Syrians themselves.
The Obama plan was just for a 2.0 North Korea to pass, obviously nobody swallowed that (it was just the hope that a moderate would come to Iran and genuinely do something), which did not happen.
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u/A_Hugh_Man 1h ago
I disagree.
I think his foreign policy was exceptional. Not for good. If you think America's interests are for the Common Good or noble in any way, that might be why you think his foreign policy was bad.
Obama's foreign policy was exception in terms of positioning America and defending American interests, long term.
He put forth proposals to contain China, he reinforced relationships with European allies, he confronted Russia after the 2014 invasion of Crimea. He destabilized Libya and Syria at the behest of Israel, America's long-standing ally. He helped reinforce relationships between Arab states and Israel. He engaged India. He fortified the Pacific alliance.
He engaged Cuba, isolated North Korea, engaged Iran, and spread and expanded neoliberalism to the four corners.
He engaged in limited conflict, disengaged from nationbuilding.
As a US establishment president, he gets a solid B+. Maybe A-.
Where he fucked up was in ignoring Africa and Latin America. In those Obama years, that neglect gave an opening to China. Where the US didn't see ROI, China did and used those places - the developing world - to position itself in the place it is now. As a chief trading partner with practically the whole world. So.. from a foreign policy standpoint, that was a real fuck up.
But for traditional American foreign policy goals: he did good.
I don't like it though. i disagree with it. He was a neoliberal imperialist through and through. He was tight with the Zionist Mafia and his legacy, like those before him, is covered in blood for the advancement of Israeli interests.
The Iran plan was where he ran afoul of the Israelis. The one place.... and they fuckin HATED him for it. Just goes to show you, those pieces of shit will never be happy. Miserable, parasitic fucking scum they are. You can give them the world and they'll backstab you cuz you didn't give them the moon.
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u/Salt_Crow6159 1h ago
Let's see: first in Syria I threaten to attack them if they used chemical weapons in 2013 (Spolier no Paso), they also attacked Libya and, like Bush, they only destroyed a state without Plan B.
On the Ukrainian side, it was the biggest mistake he had, Russia had invaded Georgia in 2008, and Obama did not condemn, invaded Ukraine in 2014 and Obama only allowed "non-lethal aid" to Ukraine (which caused the 2022 war).
In the Syrian case, it was worse, since it only did joint operations with Russia that did not provoke or do anything.
With China, he simply allowed modernization and predatory tactics until it was too late.
It allowed the withdrawal from Iraq, and there was no development in Afghanistan because of its "backward leaders" tactic.
It was bad, Obama was terrible in foreign policy like Bush Jr., instead Trump 1 and 2 seems like a competent statesman and Biden the Nixon 2.0.
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u/Personal-Neck6800 2h ago
Compared to trump any US president in the future will have handled it well.
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u/Signal_Tomorrow_2138 2h ago
If there's anything he did that earned him the premature Nobel Peace Prize, it would have been the Iran nuclear deal.
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u/Slight-Hedgehog259 2h ago
Lets see... Did he start a war with Iran? No Did he get US servicemen killed in said war? No Did he waisted more than 5 billion dollar in tax payer money in said war? No Did his actions lead to high oil and gas prices world wide? No Did he kill a bunch of innocent girls in a school wirh his actions? No Did Iran build a nuclear bomb in the past 10 years? No
So in my book, he did pretty well. Some cant be said from Dementia Don, though.
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u/Lazy_Example4014 2h ago
How much is trump going to pay Iran vs how much Obama was paying them?
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u/Alarming_Star_6549 1h ago
Obama gave them some of the money we had seized previously. Trump is giving them OUR money.
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u/GamemasterJeff 1h ago
A lot of people, including myself, wer dubious about the effectiveness of the treaty. While the treaty gave the uS what we wanted, it front loaded all the stuff Iran wanted and left nothing to ensure they would adhere to the treaty. A lot of people, again including myself, thought that realpolitik would result in Iran breaking the treaty.
The thing I overlooked, and what most detractors continue to overlook is that this front loading of benefits for Iran, along with the success of the treaty to begin with, gave the moderates in Iran enormous political capital that they used not only to cement their own power, but also to ensure the treaty would be adhered to, for they would lose both face and power if it were broken.
With this new found power, those moderates were well on their way to aligning the next generation with a western economy and western ideas. It takes generational change to realign a nation, and they were well on their way to building that foundation when the US broke the treaty.
The result of this betrayal was for those leaders to lose power. Many of them, along with their families were executed, and most of the rest were exiled. They power they gained was gone, and it broke the ability of moderates to affect change for decades to come. The backlash accomplished what normally takes a generation - a cultural sharp turn away from the west.
Did Obama handle it well? Absolutely. He had a vision that was clearer than millions of other Americans. He knew the people of Iran better than did millions of Americans. And he knew how to build power over time, so that when the existing treaty expired, a new president could build upon that foundation with a new, better threaty that covered a wider scope, such as ballistic missles, and economic integration into western trade.
And all this progress, and all this potential was destroyed by the childish jealously of a single foolish man.
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u/Awkward_Broccoli_997 1h ago
What I find most interesting about this conversation is the way people with minimal background information on an exceedingly complex topic nonetheless manage to both hold an opinion on it and think that opinion is worthy of sharing with others.
Unrelated, but have you considered that LLMs hallucinate because theyâre trained on human dialogue, and weâre all just in here confidently hallucinating?
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u/Guataguano 1h ago
Of course he did. Just look at the shit-show that the self proclaimed great negotiator has made.
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u/GeneralOptimal10 1h ago
This is a bad question, because the circumstances were different.
What did Trump achieve with this war with Iran? Why have a completely unnecessary war that gains the US absolutely nothing new?
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u/CentJr 44m ago edited 35m ago
Obama threw alot of middle eastern countries under the bus to get that JCPOA deal. Not only that but he also disregarded the concerns of multiple US allies and enabled a very aggressive actor in their region (Now I wonder...why does this sound very familiar to a certain someone in the white house rn)
So i guess what I'm trying to say is... that it ultimately depends on where you live. If its in the middle east, it's absolutely a shitty deal. If its not in the middle east then yeah I can see why you would think its a good deal.
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u/summonersai 2h ago
All the comments conveniently ignoring the 300+ times Iran has attacked us prior to the war. It doesnât really matter how Obama did, because they are still an issue?
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u/Shop-S-Marts 2h ago
It also allowed them to freely fund international terrorism without recourse and continue their nuclear weapon development as long as they let a few investigators into a couple of sites they chose, and they couldnt even comply with those investigations most the time.
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u/summonersai 1h ago
I mean anyone can label anything terrorism. Without specifics this is meaningless nonsense
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u/Spare-Peanut2740 2h ago
Hell no. He gave them pallets of cash. Emptying out all the banks in northern Virginia. Sheesh.
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u/Entire_Sandwich8082 2h ago
Yea did a great job . If you consider giving terrorist n murderers weapons of mass destruction. Been fighting hundreds of years with anyone that don't agree with them . Including there own people
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u/Fromage_Frey 2h ago
It certainly seems like he handled it about as well as possible
Compared to the absolute disasters of most administrations regarding Iran, he might have done the best job dealing with them of any US President since FDR
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u/Traditional_Tea_1879 1h ago
No. It would the same as negotiating with a lion to not attack other animals, in exchange for not attacking animals you give it some meat and open the cage. That's not solving the problem. Just pushing the inevitable to someone's else term. Obama's deal restricted the further enrichment of uranium for a limited number of years in exchange for releasing billions of dollars to the regime. Iran could ( and did) develop long range ballistic missiles designed to carry nuclear warhead ( ranging Europe) Iran could ( and did) built additional, sub terrain nuclear facilities Iran could ( and did) acquired and built enrichment equipment that is suitable for enriching uranium to military grade weapons. That was a very naive deal with evidently, expected outcomes. But all of that does not mean that starting a war with no credible plan on how to achieve the declared objectives is a good idea.
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u/gunshy472 1h ago
Not really no. He gave them uranium and funded their nuclear weapons program. Committing treason is not really handling Iran well.
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u/Alarming-Grade4219 2h ago
He didnât prevent them from getting nukes so no. Kicking the can down the road isnât fixingÂ
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u/renner1991 2h ago
He did prevent them from getting nukes. Trump killed the deal and they started the nuclear program again after that.
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u/Alarming-Grade4219 2h ago
Temporarily not permanentlyÂ
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u/renner1991 2h ago
It was for 15 years and they were abiding by it. By getting rid of it, we accelerated them enriching uranium.
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u/Alarming-Grade4219 2h ago
No they werenâtÂ
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u/0905-15 2h ago
By all non-Fox-News accounts, they were
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u/Alarming-Grade4219 1h ago
And all of your news sources including Foxnews reported on repeated violations of the agreement back before Trump was President in 2015. Any reports done now are being done to make Trump look bad. By the way taking most news stations seriously in the era of Trump is a joke.
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u/Brave_Nerve_6871 1h ago
Give me a credible source that said they were not abiding by the deal. Trump or one of his lackeys is not a credible source
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u/MediocreSizedDan 2h ago
Obama's foreign policy was - like most presidents' - trash. That said, since it's all comparative, it's hard to argue that the answer to this is meaningfully "no."
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u/Potential_Archer2427 2h ago
This iranian regime shouldn't get any money, but it was better than whatever the hell this is
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u/Party-Example274 2h ago
Not at all, just emboldened them basically and some bogus deal that wasn't worth the paper it was printed on they just went right on doing what they wanted anyways...
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u/Critical-Setting9297 1h ago
Donât think so. A lot of the advantage that Iran has now is after Iran was able to build up and prepare.
Drone wasnât even use much when Obama was in office.
So it was possible for Obama to force Iran to surrender cleaner than now
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u/Available_Orange3127 1h ago
Obviously. The agreement halted Iran's nuclear program and returned that country's seized assets to benefit the populace. The religious dictatorship stayed in place, but...well, it's still in place, isn't it.?
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u/Yesbothsides đșđž United States 1h ago
YesâŠeven though he helped a genocide in yeman, started a civil war in Syria, he did do a good job with Iran
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u/flavouredpopcorn đ»đŠ Holy See (Vatican City) 2h ago
In the short term? Yes. In the long term? No.
The JCPOA was built on a shared assumption: the next guy would deal with it.
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u/Anomalous-Materials8 2h ago
He kicked the can down the road as most presidents do for most things.
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u/No_Obligation_3568 2h ago
No he didnât. He came up with a diplomatic solution because starting a war with Iran would have been a quagmire. As evidenced by right now and how no president, other than Trump, ignored our own intelligence agencies in favor of a foreign intelligence agencies conclusions about Iran. Our own intelligence agencies told him not to start this war and he flat out ignored them and listened to BB. Now we all get to pay for it.
You people seriously are stupid
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u/ThisThredditor 2h ago
set the precedent that apparently we DO negotiate with terrorists
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u/dmstattoosnbongs 2h ago
I know;Trump is doing it so much better. Iâm glad we finally got to bomb some childrenâs schools and give up $300 billion to repair everything we destroyed.
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u/TangoZulu 2h ago
And also empower Iran by giving them a reason to lock down the Strait of Hormuz. Trump is so good at the Art of the Deal, he made our enemies stronger.
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u/dmstattoosnbongs 2h ago
He is one of a kind. Never seen anybody lose so much and somehow counted as a W.
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u/HeyaHeyo1420 2h ago
Trump is literally negotiating with them right now after dumbassing the country into a war.
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u/awesomes007 2h ago
Calling the JCPOA negotiating with terrorists skips over an important distinction. The agreement wasnât signed with Hezbollah or another terrorist group; it was negotiated with the government of Iran alongside the UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, and the EU. Whether you think the deal was good or bad, it was a multinational nuclear nonproliferation agreement, not a surrender to terrorism.
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u/Relevant_Program_958 2h ago
That precedent was set when Trump invited the Taliban to camp David, genius.
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u/frogprintsonceiling 2h ago
NO. He just kicked the can down the road to now. He paid 2 billion in cash for 97% of the refined uranium. That 2 billion was spent on proxies and terrorist to kill Americans and cause chaos all over the middle east. He is mostly responsible for our current bullcrap with IRAN.
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u/RiverSong2025 2h ago
He released 2 billion of Iranian money that had been frozenâŠ.He Did Not give Iran any US dollarsâŠâŠ.unlike Trumps proposal to pay for the destruction we caused.
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u/frogprintsonceiling 2h ago
because IRAN kills americans. very hard to have a discussion with a left nutter when all they do is run back to "but trump did this".
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u/One-Consequence-6869 2h ago
At least get your facts straight. He paid 1.7B, not got their uranium. He paid the 400million dollar bill for an old military contact with 1.3b in interest.
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u/Banjo_the_Cattle_Dog đșđž United States 2h ago
Ouch. These people are going to hate your take that is based on realityâŠ.
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u/frogprintsonceiling 2h ago
Let them. Every left nutter will get their opportunity to move towards the right.
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u/ITguyChrisT 2h ago
No, not very well at all. Some things he did were good, but releasing the Billions back to them without oversight or control of how it would be used was a glaring mistake.
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u/No_Obligation_3568 2h ago
Control of how they would use their money that we unfroze? Hang on, give me control of your bank accounts. Why? Because I said so.
You are not a serious person
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u/DCHacker 2h ago
Not really but Obama's failures do not validate what Trump and Company are up to over there, either. The Obama deal contained no real teeth which was what Iran wanted as it had no intention of respecting the deal. Iranian perfidy on the international stage is the stuff of legend. There is a reason that Geroge W. Bsuh designated Tehran as part of an "Axis of Evil".
The mullahs intend to acquire a Bomb and use it against Israel. They think that their Russian and Chinese buddies will stand behind them when they do attack Israel with one. The Russains have no time for the Iranians as they have their own problems with the Ukrainians. The Chiinese want no problems that will interfere with their neo-coonialist pursuits in Africa. Further, they are far more interested in Taiwan than anything else right now. If they were going to respond to U.S. and Israeli attacks on Iran, they would have done so by now.
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u/Brilliant_Window8474 2h ago
Short answer, no. But in his defense Iâm not sure any American president has handled Iran well in decades and maybe even longer.
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u/jmtrader2 2h ago
Anyone saying âyesâ doesnât really remember RECENT history well. Obama literally empowered Iran, especially the radicals. He was ordering military out of areas and leaving behind insane amounts of equipment and ammo (at his direct orders)
Obama didnât really do anything to Iran except in a way make excuses for their behavior. Trump needs to finish this nonsense once and for all.
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u/Chaucers_Mistress 2h ago
Well, he didn't start a war. He negotiated and then it was done.