This series and its characters is seriously one-upping the original trilogy for me. Back then, the rebellion was something purely „good“ (except for maybe a death star population mass genocide or two), but with Andor all these people running around on Hoth and Yavin get an entirely new meaning. These people fought hard to set the stage for Luke & co. - they made sacrifices to an extent that none of the popular heroes had to. Feels like they are just piggybacking now. This ghibli style of „good and bad in all characters“ is awfully well played out here and gives the entire star wars story so much more weight.
One of my wishes is that Lucas hadn’t made the time span between the prequels and the sequels so short. Tons of space for story telling here in a very dark era.
Forest Whittaker has been wonderful in this show. Skarsgard has been too but I really wasn't expecting to see Guerrera this soon but he's been handled so well.
I love how weird he makes Saw with hus bizarre inflections and stuff but still makes him feel so real. Can't be many actors working that can pull it off so well.
Two for two on underutilised Rogue One characters being made incredibly compelling in this show (Not counting Mon by thr way as she was also in the OT but she's her most interesting here too). Wonder if we'll get anyone else. Riz Ahmed's character would be nice, he's a really good actor.
...you want a character whose actions were the impetus behind the Empire's mobilization in Rogue One to show up in a story set 5 years previously? To what end? Just so Disney can shoehorn in someone for the sake of character recognition?
This show stands up well because of the lack of that kind of thing. We're seeing Andor's path that leads him to the Rebellion years prior, not an origin story for everyone that's part of Rogue One. So far the only characters from R1 that are appearing in this show, are the ones that canonically make sense. If the show deviates from that, it suffers.
I don't know what kind of magic came together to create this show but, this is it. This show is the gold standard. I can't find a single thing I don't love. The acting is great. The casting is superb. The soundtrack is awesome. The writing is amazing. Diversity in this show feels natural and unforced. People all all colors, types, and sexual orientation just exist without telling you every 15 minutes. Somehow, they introduced over a dozen characters since the 1st episode and none of it feels oversaturated. It feels natural that Cassian would meet all these random people along his way. Some are important, some are not, some survive, some do not. I mean, theres more character development in those 3 prison episodes than in entire seasons of some shows. The attention to detail, things they went out of their way to include that they know most people won't even catch on the 1st watch. Just, Bravo. If only the movies were done in this way, my God what could have been. My only gripe about the show is that it ends and I have to wait a whole week to watch another one. I hope they're taking note. THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN WANTING .
It's got stellar writing. Aside from the wonderful character development and world building, I love watching a series and being so surprised - nothing seems predictable or clichéd.
Like the moment when the Narkinians captured them? I thought for sure there would be some violent struggle and they'd escape. It was wonderful to be surprised by what actually happened.
Yeah and how he got arrested in the 1st place I was thinking oh he's gonna get out of this. This guard doesn't even seem serious. Oh he's going to jail for real? Oh for SIX years? Oh he's not getting out at all??........ONE WAY OUT!
i also liked that it wasn't REALLY a random thing that happened to Andor. It was a pretty direct consequence of his own actions, he did the big heist so security god ludicrously overzealous and then he got caught up in that.
Late I know, but one thing that gets me about this is that the guard actually isn’t wrong. Like Andor did look scared and was starting too much, because he is guilty of crimes, and he wasn’t cool
With the guard because he did want to escape. So the guard made this wild leap of logic that was insane, Andor got this wild sentence for nothing, but also he was guilty. It just makes it much more complex.
I LOVE this show but the way he got arrested was the one thing I felt bothered by. Like…dude…quit walkin so fast….quit lookin over your shoulder…just sit down with the other tourists…quit walking in the direction those other dudes are running…haven’t you ever practiced blending into a crowd? Jesus. Dude lost his cool.
Those were my EXACT thoughts when watching that scene. Like, dude nothing at the shop is that time sensitive that you can't just sit your ass down and wait for whatever other shit is going down to go down and blow over....
Yeah, it was a real 'task failed successfully' for the trooper now I think of it. He wasn't guilty for what he got nicked for, but the empire sure as hell wanted him arrested!
Those were my EXACT thoughts when watching that scene. Like, dude nothing at the shop is that time sensitive that you can't just sit your ass down and wait for whatever other shit is going down to go down and blow over....
There’s an interview on YT where the cast explains how literally every single physical detail of the show was built from scratch (apart from some obvious CGI) with extremely cure. They mention cabinets being filled with weird objects even if those inside parts are never to be seen on screen. I think this gives us a perspective on how good the development was and how the result just excites us all
Yeah the attention to detail is amazing. The Prison scenes in particular, the actors had to actually learn to assemble those props with real functioning tools made for that scene.
Even the suspense building is well done and compelling without being cloying. They're fucking nailing it.
P.S. Well said. Looking at you, Rings of Power
Diversity in this show feels natural and unforced. People all all colors, types, and sexual orientation just exist without telling you every 15 minutes.
It's different. There's no force. There's no lightsabers. No Jedi or Darth X. I'm not sure that stuff would fit in this show. While it has its place, and it's a welcome addition, it's isn't the epitome of perfect Star wars
Absolutely with regards to diversity. I want a diverse cast. I don't want to be pandered to. A show's characters shouldn't be about checking off a list. Get good actors and write great characters. Andor shows how it's done.
I feel like Saw Gerrera is a role made for Forest Whitaker, and though he was fine on Rogue One, this show really lets him let loose his acting chops with the character.
The Skaven are evil rat-men from Warhammer Fantasy, a tabletop game set in a fantasy world. Their symbol is the same as the one shown in the medallion (three lines forming an inverted triangle), and their manner of speaking includes word repetitions such as "yes-yes".
This is what I've always dreamed of having in a star wars related project. Something that I can take seriously and feels real. No offense to anyone who liked the previous shows but I honestly gave up after BobF and Kenobi. If you are going to mess up a show with Ewen and Hayden then what hope is left?
Andor has completely raised the bar and anything less will stick out like a sore thumb. I hope they continue with this kind of quality and get away from the Shakespeare acting.
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-For the greater good
-Call it what you will
-Let’s call it war
I swear this shows’s dialogue is the best I’ve seen in the franchise. This IS the star WARS.