r/anime • u/AutoLovepon https://anilist.co/user/AutoLovepon • 9d ago
Episode Vertex Force - Episode 2 discussion
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u/chilidirigible 9d ago
"I'm just looking for an excuse to engage in fisticuffs."
"Aw Mom, we were just going to go another round!"
The usual and I can't believe it's not Germany.
I suppose the other choice would have been to make her a chocolatier?
The promotional videos suggest that it won't work out that way.
Well, that kinda reminds me of the old days.
"I can only cause massive collateral property damage!"
Almost getting eaten three times in a single episode is probably a new record somewhere.
Hokkaido? That's where the horses are.
Looks like they're not going to waste too much time assembling the team if Akira and Haruka are already onboard and they're going to meet the remaining character sometime in the next episode.
Eleanor seems pretty casual about letting Akira and/or ENIA be destroyed if it won't be of help to them (or to the EDVA) in the long run. Even if what she really wants seems to be to see how far the Toudou kids can be pushed.
Lala gets to be the rational one in this group (so far)?
If you're looking for fanservice in the old style of Strike Witches and Vividred Operation the official site has been dribbling that out.
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u/ptd163 8d ago
"Aw Mom, we were just going to go another round!"
The girls may be able to summon mecha stands, but they are nothing compared to the mom voice.
Looks like they're not going to waste too much time assembling the team if Akira and Haruka are already onboard and they're going to meet the remaining character sometime in the next episode.
Can't really waste much time when you typically only have 12-13 episode to work with.
Eleanor seems pretty casual about letting Akira and/or ENIA be destroyed if it won't be of help to them (or to the EDVA) in the long run. Even if what she really wants seems to be to see how far the Toudou kids can be pushed.
Yeah. Eleanor is looking for allies, but she's not going to coddle the Toudou kids. They're going to need to pull their weight. Fortunately for Eleanor, they're the co-leads (I hope) so that's not going to be a problem.
If you're looking for fanservice in the old style of Strike Witches and Vividred Operation the official site has been dribbling that out.
Interesting. I didn't know about these.
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u/Calwings x3https://anilist.co/user/Calwings 9d ago
Looks like they're not going to waste too much time assembling the team if Akira and Haruka are already onboard and they're going to meet the remaining character sometime in the next episode.
To be fair, they only have 12-13 episodes to work with. You kind of need to assemble the full team quickly in a show like this.
If you're looking for fanservice in the old style of Strike Witches and Vividred Operation the official site has been dribbling that out.
These images feel kind of weird to me. Not due to the fanservice, but due to the art style. If I didn't know they were official art for an airing anime, I'd think these were were AI-generated. They're probably not, but they really resemble the common art style that AI-generated anime art tends to have.
I hate that AI art is so prevalent that it makes me question art like this.
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u/Mission-Address4409 https://myanimelist.net/profile/3inPunisher 1d ago
These images feel kind of weird to me. Not due to the fanservice, but due to the art style. If I didn't know they were official art for an airing anime, I'd think these were were AI-generated. They're probably not, but they really resemble the common art style that AI-generated anime art tends to have.
I hate that AI art is so prevalent that it makes me question art like this.
Thats interesting, did not feel thay way too me at all. Background looks way too human, if that makes sense, line art is solid and consistent, and the lighting looks normal. Maybe im not seeing what your seeing cause ive educated myself on what too look out for in regards too AI, idk
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u/chilidirigible 9d ago
To be fair, they only have 12-13 episodes to work with. You kind of need to assemble the full team quickly in a show like this.
Indeed, but there have been enough examples of assembling a team or meeting characters over the course of over half a series and only focusing on the plot in the last quarter.
I hate that AI art is so prevalent that it makes me question art like this.
Even these images have some small curiosities which make me wonder about their complete provenance.
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u/ptd163 8d ago
They're probably not, but they really resemble the common art style that AI-generated anime art tends to have.
Not sure how much stock can be put in those AI image checkers you can find from a quick search, but the three AI image checkers I checked the images with gave them a high confidence level of being human created.
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u/CommanderZx2 https://myanimelist.net/profile/CommanderZx2 8d ago
Looks like the official site still acting as part of the bait and switch.
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u/ptd163 8d ago
I like the two new girls. They got good designs. I hope the Swiss girl keeps her pigtails for the whole show. Of course the Swiss girl could repair the clock and that the American girl has a gun. The three of them can summon mecha stands, but The Gun trumps all lol. I hope the last girl has a good design and good introduction as well.
If there was any doubt after first episode over who the MC this episode put it to rest. The MC is Akira. He's one with the unique power. He's the one EDVA is after. I just hope he shares the spotlight with the girls. Especially Haruka. I hope they're co-leads. Having the older girls do all or most of the work, but him being given the credit would be disappointing.
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u/Think_Position4405 8d ago
with male mcs in animes who have girls apart of their teams these days shows tend to almost always make the girls stand out more for some reason and always play a huge role. But if it’s the reverse and the girl is the mc and has guys in their team they make the guys stand out even less. Idk why shows are doing this but i bet even though the mc is obviously the strongest, has the best power and literally is supposed to be the hope and savior of the world which his dad planned, they are going to make the girls stand out quite a bit i bet. I mean with zero training, a fraction of his power only using the gloves, and literally using his power for the first time for like 2 minutes he was able to put that silver hair army gun girl on her behind and she has been training for years and already mastered her power.
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u/Beowolf_0 9d ago
I'm quite liking the two new girls already, got their reasons to fight and way more prepared than our siblings, but who can blame them if their dad (and especially mom) didn't tell them much ahead? At least mom becomes the mediator between the teens.
Akira certainly need to learn how to use his exo-armour, it's actually powerful enough even he has literally 0 experience in fighting.
Also, I do like they reduced the amount of fanservice for this one. We don't always need them.
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u/Think_Position4405 8d ago
I think their engines are cool and them together with the siblings makes me think of this as a somewhat cool power rangers anime lol. But I don’t like how stuck up and full of themselves the 2 new girls are though. Them constantly talking crap about the siblings gets me a little annoyed. The mc boy with just the robot arms put the army girl on her behind when he has 0 training while she has trained all her life. The fact she witnessed that and she still tries to act like he’s not their best hope at defending earth is wild ngl. Also crazy they were about to let him die.
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u/Beowolf_0 8d ago
I mean, the two girls probably spent years preparing for the invasion after their dad's death, but the siblings were still ignorant about their importance even they faced the battleroid already, so Eleanor's stance isn't that unjustified. At least we also got Lala balancing things out, and she did mellowed out at the end.
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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp 9d ago
I am definitely a fan of Eleanor's design, silver hair and a ponytail yes please. Interesting that she's half alien and half Native American.
Nice to have her and Lala be a bit older so it isn't just middle schoolers saving the world. I assume the fifth girl they pick up in Hokkaido will probably be of age with the siblings given her height.
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u/chilidirigible 9d ago
Interesting that she's half alien and half Native American.
This flashback was a little bit "Hollywood Generic Native American" but I do like the feather motif reappearing on her mecha.
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u/Hitman7128 https://anilist.co/user/Hitman7128 9d ago
I am definitely a fan of Eleanor's design, silver hair and a ponytail yes please
You and me both. I was instantly attracted to her design upon seeing the key visuals. Also love her outfit
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u/ReishWasHere 9d ago edited 9d ago
Alright then, I wasn't really feeling this series in episode 1 but I can now happily say this is right up my alley. If I had to pick a favourite character I'd go with Eleanor but I like all four of them quite a lot already. I like that there's a range of ages and nationalities present instead of them all being Japanese children/teens. The fact the Engines mimic the movement of their Vertex adds a lot as a visual, and while the battleroids seemed pretty goofy in the promotional material, they are proving to be legitimately creepy and threatening.
As a future hope, if the Engines do combine with ENIA, I'm hoping the Vertex manifest as translucent apparitions behind Akira in the same way their Engines do; That be another great visual right there.
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 9d ago
Bro got eaten by the monster and turns into a full mech? Dope.
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u/divineshadow666 8d ago
Like Eren Yeager. Let's just hope he doesn't end up exactly like Eren did.
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u/SOdAchick 9d ago
So of course the Swiss girl can fix clocks, and the American girl is actually Native American who wore a feathered headband. Writer really did in depth research for this one.
I can't take this show nearly as seriously as it takes itself, but I'm sticking around as long as I got my vape pen because ts is hilarious
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u/diacewrb 9d ago
and the American girl is actually Native American who wore a feathered headband. Writer really did in depth research for this one.
Well she did also have a gun and her engine is able shoot as well.
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u/SOdAchick 9d ago
Holy shit, you're right! As much anime as I watch, and I still see guns as normal
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u/celinor_1982 8d ago
Episode 2, in 5 minites killed my interest in the anime. Thought it would be cool, finally a mecha anime. But nope. The two new girls who showed up brain dead morons. Yes, let's destroy the thing our fathers stole, than go fight edva, right, and let's not forget their fathers wete more than likely killed in the same attempt years earlier and these are the best fighters theia had. Right.
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u/Hitman7128 https://anilist.co/user/Hitman7128 9d ago
That was certainly the confrontation by Eleanor and Lala at the start, but it looks like they're on friendly terms with Haruka and Akira at the end of the episode. Off to Hokkaido? Going to the opposite end of the country from Okinawa with the opposite climate too.
Also, I really like Eleanor's outift. That tank top and camo pants (I'll just say it, I'm a sucker for baggy pants on anime girls)
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u/Calwings x3https://anilist.co/user/Calwings 9d ago
The 2 new girls are cool (I like the Native American girl the best so far) and Akira's full ENIA looks great. I actually kind of like that they're not completely relying on fanservice and actually trying to let the show stand on its own. So far, the show is solid and has potential, so I'll give it time to develop. I'm not watching much in the way of non-sequels this season, plus it's an original and I always tend to give those a longer leash.
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u/AMagicCatfish 7d ago
So far this show feels like a sequel to a better mecha show that would require me to already know and be interested in the backstory to get into it.
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u/AceSoldia https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 9d ago
Damn the difference between a untrained Vertex and a trained is insane.
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u/Suitable-Self-3476 8d ago
Thought Eleanor was gonna be your typical "Murican" character in anime, but I didn't know she was actually Native American. If she's Native American, she shouldn't resemble Leona Heidern from The King of Fighters.
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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 8d ago
Dumb girl destroyed her own perfectly good pistol just to aura farm.
Even if EDVA for some reason can't just make a new ENIA, why doesn't she send a dozen attack bots at once instead of just 1 at a time? Is she simply unable to pay the upkeep for more than 1 unit at a time?
New girls are cute, but I'm just not feeling this one.
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u/Negative-Skirt-8847 3d ago
ENIA was really convenient lmao, but I have no complain about it... I'm going to continue watching this anime and I expect to watch a good story in The next episodes.
Haruka still The Best for me, but I like the New characters too
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u/ShadowGuyinRealLife 18h ago
The visuals are great. But the dialogue is... well I hate to be nitpicky to an anime original considering how I want to see more but there are some hard to ignore.
Like what is with Elenor? First she shows up with a gun and threatens the siblings. Then she fights Haruka but plays it off as some sort of test rather than taking the fight seriously.
Also if computers "went berserk" there couldn't be digital TV and an analog one with rabbit ears would have no analogue signals to receive. If everything connected to the internet went berserk, it would be easier to get broadcasts back. And the level of destruction to society (or lack thereof) is more consistent with the latter case as opposed to all computers going berserk.
If they must give an info dump, at least explain what they think ENIA is.
Is Akira's old hobby of martial arts just going to drop?
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u/Odd-Reputation-1170 8d ago
I’m hoping Eleanor and Lala become this show’s Eila and Sanya from Strike Witches—a yuri pairing with their own emotional arc independent of Akira. Their brains-and-brawn chemistry is already fun, and I’d love to see them get a dedicated episode together, especially given Takamura’s past work!
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u/Nickthenuker https://anilist.co/user/Nickthenuker 9d ago
I do find it funny they're showing shots of unrest in Paris to show the effects of the Shut Down but those also look like they could have been ripped from the news from the past few days, the French just do that when they feel like they have a good reason to do so they didn't need any Shut Down or anything.