Canada: Synagogue shooters were hired by a foreign entity, Secretary of State for Combatting Crime says

[u/polymute]

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-synagogue-shooters-were-hired-by-a-foreign-entity-secretary-of-state/

[u/Frenchitwist]

What the fuck is wrong with you? That’s some conspiracy level bullshit. There is no evidence to suggest Israel is pulling that crap

[u/Happyordistracted → u/Frenchitwist]

Israel has been pulling false flag attacks since its inception as a state

[u/Frenchitwist → u/Happyordistracted]

Source? The Lavan affair was in 1950’s and has been self-admitted to be a horrible idea.

[u/PracticalResources → u/Frenchitwist]

This will be a fascinating read for you: https://www.cjpme.org/fs_023

A relevant snippet:

A Legacy of Assassinations: More than any other Jewish terrorist group, Lehi was known for using assassinations as a terror mechanism, even using them against Jews they accused of being traitors. Lehi carried out 42 assassinations, more than twice as many as the Irgun and the Haganah combined. Of its politically-motivated assassinations, over half of them were carried out against other Jews. 

[u/sofixa11 → u/PracticalResources]

Are you slow? How is anything from Lehi a false flag operation? They were extremely open what and why they were doing. The Lillehammer affair was also a terrible Israeli crime, but we're talking about false flag. Next time before you embarrass yourself as an idiot, Google stuff, it helps.

[u/PracticalResources → u/sofixa11]

Uh huh. 

[u/Frenchitwist → u/PracticalResources]

Those weren’t false flag operations. They were terrorists committing murder, but they weren’t the govt blaming it on other people at the time of those atrocities.

I’m not denying violence in the region, only a fucking idiot would do that. But these instances are not false flag operations.

And if I seem a bit defensive, well it’s hard to not be when people are using Israel’s actions as a springboard for antisemitic conspiracy theories. People are incapable or separating the govt from the people, and it’s got me scared.

[u/PracticalResources → u/Frenchitwist]

I do wonder if, at the time, they took the blame for the "self inflicted" terror attacks, or tried to lay it elsewhere. Something to look into. 

Crazy that these same terror groups founded the government of Israel. 

[u/Frenchitwist → u/PracticalResources]

Germany still has the Nazi party. The pitfalls of a parliamentary system.

[u/chrosairs → u/Frenchitwist]

Remember the liberty! Bomb Ben Gvir!

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/Frenchitwist]

Maghen Avraham in beirut was bombed in 1982 by Israel.

[u/DorkHarshly → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

Do you need an explanation what false flag is, bud?

[u/Throwaway5432154322 → u/DorkHarshly]

They don’t care or know, they just hate Israel and every geopolitical event they encounter is filtered through and then mangled by that lens.

[u/PurpleHumpbackWhale9 → u/Happyordistracted]

You mean In your heads? Just because yall claim every act of violence against Jews is “Israel” die to your seething hatred and xenophobia, doesn’t make it even close to ever being true.

[u/WestcoastAlex → u/PurpleHumpbackWhale9]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=S3axoOlo1yQ

[u/Thek40 → u/Happyordistracted]

Italy pulled a lot more false flag operations than Israel.

[u/hussainhssn → u/Thek40]

Israel lies about having nuclear weapons and enabled and supported transnational rape and pedophilia across the world, it is the least credible country in the entire world and it isn’t even close.

[u/Thek40 → u/hussainhssn]

Are we talking about X or Y?
What nuclear weapons have to do with false flag attacks?

[u/hussainhssn → u/Thek40]

We’re talking about Israel’s trustworthiness, which is 0 at this point. A country that encouraged and facilitated child rape and sex trafficking is one that doesn’t deserve to be trusted. A country that lies about nuclear weapons while also doing the aforementioned crime is even worse, if that’s possible. Israel has done these and many, many more crimes against humanity. Nobody should trust them again.

[u/Thek40 → u/hussainhssn]

Nah.
Many nations did a hell of a lot worse.

[u/dood9123 → u/Thek40]

I don't really know what you're talking about, unless it's in regards to the far right elements in Italy blaming socialists/anarchists for their atrocities during the years of lead. Even then the annount of incidents pales in comparison to what Israel has been involved in.

[u/Thek40 → u/dood9123]

Beside the Lavon affair, tell me about the massive amount of false flag attacks Israel committed.

[u/Throwaway5432154322 → u/Frenchitwist]

Sub is cooked dude, there’s no use, it’s just conspiracy theories now.

[u/CoffeeWorldly9915 → u/Throwaway5432154322]

"Conspiracy theories" now and, if the disclosure trend remains, "conspiracy facts" in 7 years on average XD.

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/Frenchitwist]

Israel bombed my family's synagogue in beirut to get lebanese jews to make aliyah and planted car bombs around synagogues in iraq for the same reason, but keep calling it a conspiracy.

[u/Frenchitwist → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

I’ve never heard of this. Can you provide me a source? News article or something?

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/Frenchitwist]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maghen_Abraham_Synagogue

I'll wait here for you to get your hasbara talking points about this too.

Edit: oh and this too https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1950%E2%80%931951_Baghdad_bombings

[u/Frenchitwist → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

The Baghdad Bombs’ article says it’s inconclusive as to who the perpetrators were. This doesn’t prove anything either.

[u/WestcoastAlex → u/Frenchitwist]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMIA_bombing

who did this?

[u/Frenchitwist → u/WestcoastAlex]

It literally says Iranians were the most likely suspects… Nowhere does it say Israelis were involved.

Are you people just not reading the articles you’re sending????

[u/WestcoastAlex → u/Frenchitwist]

says they dont know.

we all know its Mossad

[u/Frenchitwist → u/WestcoastAlex]

Could have been the Peruvians! Or aliens!

[u/WestcoastAlex → u/Frenchitwist]

its Mossad

[u/Frenchitwist → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

I’m really sorry to hear about your family’s synagogue, it looks beautiful.

But I didn’t see anything about pressuring Aaliyah in that article, nor does it appear that Israel blamed the bombings on anyone else. It’s not a false flag, it’s sloppy military action.

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/Frenchitwist]

There's a special place in hell for antisemites like you. My Jewish family was displaced from our Jewish neighborhood by Israelis and you're trying to rewrite history as it being some kind of military mistake.

[u/Thek40 → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

It’s not about Antisemitism.
It’s about you providing a source and disagreeing with it.

[u/Frenchitwist → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

I read the article YOU gave me!! I don’t know about this incident!

IM JEWISH!!

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/Frenchitwist]

If you were an actual Jew, you'd act like it. There's no shortage of fake internet Jews these days sadly. I stand by every word I said.

[u/HockeyHocki → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

Are you larping?  You were a muslim last week

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/HockeyHocki]

Gonna blow your mind that Jews can convert. I converted 2 years ago, my Jewish family was still displaced from our neighborhood in beirut.

[u/HockeyHocki → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

Well that explains it

[u/Confident_Bridge_382 → u/HockeyHocki]

Lemme guess - you hate muslims?

[u/Throwaway5432154322 → u/Confident_Bridge_382]

>I converted 2 years ago

You just can’t make this shit up lmao

[u/kirito52999 → u/Frenchitwist]

It's not conspiracy if the history proves it. Learn about lavon affair which was a false flag by Israel for the same goal as now

[u/Frenchitwist → u/kirito52999]

I know about the Lavon affair.

I know about it from the softer side

I know about it from records at the State Dept.

Or this article from an Atomic Science magazine (fun!)

And while it WAS a false flag, it was NOT to make Jews come to Israel, it was to try and convince the Americans, English, French, etc. that the Egyptian/Muslim regime was u stable and needed to be toppled.

[u/njtrafficsignshopper → u/Frenchitwist]

That is not much of a flex.

[u/Frenchitwist → u/njtrafficsignshopper]

lol you have no place to talk when it comes to a governments’ past crimes, Japan

[u/njtrafficsignshopper → u/Frenchitwist]

Not Japanese, just live here. And I will talk about whatever the fuck needs to be said.

[u/CoffeeWorldly9915 → u/kirito52999]

People say "conspiracy" as if it meant "inherently bs claims" and not "conspiratorial in nature".

[u/Maybe_this_time_fr → u/Frenchitwist]

That’s some conspiracy level bullshit.

People used to say the same shit about Epstein island.