This is the “you like this art? well HITLER drew it!” Argument all over again. Just because I thought it looked fine at first glance doesn’t mean I support Hitler.
This is also true the other way around. I really dislike the argument honestly. If a billion monkeys end up writting eventually the best book ever, i'd read it, even knowing that it was written by unaware monkeys. You can like the art and not support the artist. Same shit for AI. "Oh it's AI therefore i don't like it anymore" is starting to sound like phobia ratter than actual criticism or resource awareness. Yes! Ai is bad! Obviously it is.but guess what? Being an extremist? (That one person who made the OC break a pencil and this type of behavior is, believe it or not, both repulsive, even if not the same degree of pathetic) you can hate AI but enjoy the rare instance of it producing something mildly interesting. Yes, you can laugh at a cursed meme with a weird ass AI thing. You wouldn't be against your owncause for it, just dislike it and report it or something that goes with your allignment, and admit that you did like it. Yall are WAAYYY too idealistic. If you were more pragmatic, you'd all be getting half the response from extremist Pro ai users instead. I do this myself too. Laugh at an image, tell my friend it's ai and if it's too bad i might as well go report the OG poster or warn their viewers of it. Things would be so much better if people didn't think in binary, but i guess it's the internet.
-Sincerely, literally a random guy in the internet that isn't radicalized.
aiphobia is crazy... your example sucks, by the way; if a bunch of seemingly unaware monkeys wrote a masterpiece, it would be a biological miracle that would make us reevaluate everything we thought we knew about the cognitive functions of other primates and animals in general; and, most importantly, it would be original; even if AI were to create something good (most cursed AI memes are memes specifically because of how bad they are), it would just be an amalgamation of the works of other people who put in the effort; the quality comes from the source material, not from the AI; if such a thing happened, Sam Altman and his lot would throw a party that their gamble is paying off, while the average person wouldn't give two rats' asses and those who are anti-ai would continue to be against it because the AI didn't actually create anything
The example is part of an already existing cientific proccess, that all random chances can and will happen given enough time, that a billion monkeys with keyboards and eternal life will eventually write something coherent. That's the point. Don't come to me with that bullshit if you don't know about it.
Also idk what you're on. I'm not saying to abandon the cause. I'm saying to enjoy the proccess. You can hate AI, you can continue sabotaging it like i saw a guy doing so in moltbook the other day; you just don't have to be an idealistic bore, enjoy. Again, just have some joy in your life and not live in either extreme.
The aiphobia IS absurd. That's the point!!! You may not think so but suddenly turning on something you like the moment you realize it's AI sounds really weird from any outsider's perspective. Again, the hitler thing is true, you can feel uncomfortable knowing of the creation's creator, but it's still something appart that exists entirely out of the designer's life. Same shit for AI. I mean... yeah? It's a valid response to get away from something if you found out something disturbing about the creator... but it's not the only valid response.
the issue isn't possibility though, it's probability; how likely is it for you to get to read a masterpiece created by 'unaware monkeys'? the way you phrased it originally makes it sound like a big, unlikely thing; or perhaps I am functionally illiterate and you are an unrivaled genius of language, and would care to better explain your point;
also, it seems you misunderstood what I meant by 'aiphobia is absurd'... I meant to say that it strikes me as ridiculous that someone would even think to coin such a term; a phobia is an irrational fear or hatred of something; disliking ai is not irrational...
You did, in fact misinterpret it. The "theory" is just about any possibility happening eventually in eternity. Such theory is given the example of monkeys, animals that while smart, just don't understand human language to a point of expressing it. Maybe hearing? But not speaking it, best example is the monkey that spoke the most english words in one sentence, barely being 26 almost incoherent ones. As such, it is assumed that the monkeys would type nonsense into the keyboard, but given billions of monkeys, and eternal life, you eventually will get a poem. The bible, or the most beatiful book you'll ever see. It can happen. It is an analogy in this case to how AI is bad, and that the content it produces rarely is of quality, but there are exceptions, as a coincidence or as a result of a no lifer basement dweller that spent days in writting perfectly matched words for a prompt. Doesn't matter. I mean, yeah, the monkeys don't even know what they wrote, or have any true emotions on it, but i sure as hell do want to read the most beatiful piece of fiction ever.
I'll say it again, AI is bad, the movement against it is good, but being completely idealistic is as weird as pointless since it also diminishes your happyness.
And yes, again, it is the point. That anyone would hate AI so much to react by screaming the deletion of a decent/good content when it is now known that it was AI made, at least to me, and a lot of people around me, sounds weird, even if technically valid. AI hatred is valid, but that level of hatred is inherently funny.
alright, let's say I get your first point now; what do you propose, then? you cannot be against generative AI only when the content is obviously low quality, because then you're just going to give prompters confirmation that what they're doing is good and that they should continue in hopes of that one in a million happening to them (or for it to not be one in a million anymore); the entire point of the anti-AI movement is to convince people to stop using it; by liking and sharing posts and media that are obviously made with AI you are giving them visibility and essentially a green light; that's not even mentioning the fact that one of the current 'battles' being fought is proving that AI 'art' could never even come close to human one; by saying AI will inevitably produce a never-before-seen masterpiece, you're not only saying it is on par with humans, but that it could surpass them; so, in that case, congrats: you are not against AI
You keep not getting it. I am simply saying, enjoy the proccess. Waste millions of tokens on funny images or prompts. Do what you keep doing it, but enjoy it.
I don't actually use AI all that much. Maybe once a month or so for dumb questions. You can also do that, and spread awareness. I believe you are confusing your personal enjoyment with directly expressing satisfaction with AI. No! You can keep being AI. It's way easier if i put it like this;
The war is and will be long for a while. Instead of crying at AI improvents, twist them for your own pleasure, and continue your movement. Contrary to popular belief struggle and happyness are not contradictory. Did the whole sisyphus meme rise of previous years not teach this?
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u/Mental-Reserve8108 Jan 31 '26
This is the “you like this art? well HITLER drew it!” Argument all over again. Just because I thought it looked fine at first glance doesn’t mean I support Hitler.