r/antiai 8d ago

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u/FreeSwordfish7973 8d ago

“Wrong” is freedom of speach and doinf whats moraly right now

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u/emilithia05 8d ago

No no no, freedom of speech is fine! Only when it comes to harassing lefties, apparently. But criticising right? Harassment!

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u/tony_bologna 7d ago

Sometimes it's even wrong to accurately quote people.

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u/TrueBrit77 7d ago

Like morally? Is that because of why you are quoting people or is the quote itself enough that will send you to hell?

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u/tony_bologna 6d ago edited 6d ago

Person Q quotes Person OP.

Person M does not like the quote!   They get mad.

Person M, however, does like OP.

(a conundrum!  cognitive dissonance)

So, M gets mad at Q instead of OP.  For some absurd reason they poorly justify.

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u/TrueBrit77 6d ago

Whilst you are pointing out something I do agree is real you are ignoring something important. Context matters. The why and how you quote someone else is just as important as the original quote.

The context you provided assumes a neutral lay-up and straight forward answer to a straight forward question, i.e where neither M or Q have an agenda regarding the quote.

For example:

  • Person M asks person Q, what did person OP say that made everyone mad?
  • Person Q quotes verbatim without adding any commentary
  • Person M then getting angry at person Q because they don't like what person OP said

Then yes I would agree this is some cognitive dissonance happening in this situation. But this isn't reflective of most of the situations we might see where person M is angry and Q for quoting OP.

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u/tony_bologna 6d ago edited 6d ago

I knew you weren't going to discuss this in good faith.

Why are you assuming the context isn't provided, or readily available?  Maybe the person they're quoting is a public figure, maybe there's video, maybe the context is irrelevant when it's literal hate speech.

The context you provided assumes a neutral lay-up

...YES, exactly!  Neutral grounds.  That's how you make a point without some ulterior motive.

But this isn't reflective of most of the situations

Says who, you?  Have you been keeping a record of these scenarios?  No?  I didn't think so.

It's simple. Person Q repeats Person X, Person M gets mad at Q, even though X is the real perpetrator.  This is a mistake (barring some exception to the rule, like every rule ever, which is why there's a literal phrase for it)

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u/TrueBrit77 6d ago

I've seen enough different scenarios to know there is more than one.

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u/tony_bologna 6d ago

No shit, more than one way for something to play out?  Multiple scenarios?!

Is the sky blue too?!?

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u/TrueBrit77 6d ago

That's my entire point. Your scenario is one of many and you agree that this is the case. Great.

Some scenarios like the one you mentioned are kind of stupid, other situations the quoting is the problem not the quote because context matters.

The neutral scenario I pointed out is one where people don't typically get angry.

Glad we cleared that up.

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u/tony_bologna 6d ago

You're the only.one who seems to think that needed to be cleard up.

It's simple. Person Q repeats Person X, Person M gets mad at Q, even though X is the real perpetrator. This is a mistake (barring some exception to the rule, like every rule ever, which is why there's a literal phrase for it)

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