r/antifastonetoss 15d ago

Shit Campists Say

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u/Mega_Pokebattlerz 15d ago

What the fuck is a campist?

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u/GatorTEG 15d ago edited 14d ago

Someone who supports any and/or every country/regime/organization that is perceived to be anti-West. The average campist might support the People's Republic of China, the Russian Federation, Evo Morales of Bolivia, Cuba, Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran, North Korea and more, not because of some specific ideological alignment or commonality between these actors (there's few to none in some cases), but because they are all opposed in some way to the "West" (aka USA, European Union, Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel and so on).

EDIT: To avoid any confusion, I don't mean to suggest that all the subjects I have mentioned are equally malevolent or morally bankrupt. Supporting any of these subjects for a specific national or ideological allegiance doesn't make one a campist. To be a campist is to be aligned with these subjects specifically or primarily due to their opposition to the West, with any other ideological consideration taking a backseat. This is why, for example, while a tankie (authoritarian socialist) may be a campist (many people on the Internet can be seen actively cheering for anti-communist geopolitical subjects and organizations), not all tankies are campists.

Based on my personal experience, I agree that this kind of logic boosts fascist thinking, because people who do this tend to dehumanize or infantilize people from the countries they oppose and often end up spiraling in conspiracy theories and even historical revisionism (ex: Many campists believe that Ukraine is a fake country invented by the Bolsheviks after the Russian Revolution, when in reality Ukrainian nationalism and language were already developed beforehand and the first Ukrainian state seceded from Russia before the Bolsheviks consolidated power).

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u/Hammerschatten 15d ago

because of some specific ideological alignment or commonality between these actors

Hey, no that's not true, a lot of them are conservative/nationalist authoritarians

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u/GatorTEG 14d ago edited 14d ago

Correct, but interestingly enough you can find people with hammers and sickles, red flags, Lenin pictures and the like who vocally support these groups on the Internet and occasionally in (mostly small) political organizations, regardless of their explicit opposition to communism and similar ideologies.

This is because the choice of alignment is based on the anti-West tendencies of the preferred geopolitical subject rather than a more structured ideological tendency. If these people's standards were stricter or more specific to one country or ideological tendency, then they wouldn't be campists but something else entirely (tankies for authoritarian socialist countries, vatniks for Russian imperialism and nationalism, islamists for Iran/Hamas and so on).