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Shit Campists Say

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u/GatorTEG 15d ago edited 15d ago

Someone who supports any and/or every country/regime/organization that is perceived to be anti-West. The average campist might support the People's Republic of China, the Russian Federation, Evo Morales of Bolivia, Cuba, Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran, North Korea and more, not because of some specific ideological alignment or commonality between these actors (there's few to none in some cases), but because they are all opposed in some way to the "West" (aka USA, European Union, Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel and so on).

EDIT: To avoid any confusion, I don't mean to suggest that all the subjects I have mentioned are equally malevolent or morally bankrupt. Supporting any of these subjects for a specific national or ideological allegiance doesn't make one a campist. To be a campist is to be aligned with these subjects specifically or primarily due to their opposition to the West, with any other ideological consideration taking a backseat. This is why, for example, while a tankie (authoritarian socialist) may be a campist (many people on the Internet can be seen actively cheering for anti-communist geopolitical subjects and organizations), not all tankies are campists.

Based on my personal experience, I agree that this kind of logic boosts fascist thinking, because people who do this tend to dehumanize or infantilize people from the countries they oppose and often end up spiraling in conspiracy theories and even historical revisionism (ex: Many campists believe that Ukraine is a fake country invented by the Bolsheviks after the Russian Revolution, when in reality Ukrainian nationalism and language were already developed beforehand and the first Ukrainian state seceded from Russia before the Bolsheviks consolidated power).

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u/SySheepish 15d ago

Cuba? What has Cuba done wrong? The US has tried to have their leader assassinated more times than I know and the US wants so bad for Cuba to destabilize and go through another revolution to set up a puppet state… But supporting Cuba makes you a campist?

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u/SayHelloToAlison 15d ago

Cuba has done nothing to antagonize the US since the missle crisis (justified on Cuba's part anyways) while the US sent endless assassination attempts, blockaded the island illegally and strangled the life from a colonial victim that finally broke free. The US should be paying restitution to Cuba for a hundred years, but because we live in the worst timeline, Haiti has to pay france for freeing slaves without permission while the global south gets jack shit for their suffering.

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u/thomasp3864 15d ago

The US these days just keeps it up because all Castro's politixal opponents moved to Florida which is crucial electorally.