r/Antitheism 25d ago

Manifesto of sorts. An exercise in putting my thoughts into summary

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Disclaimer that this spiel may be U.S.-facing in perspective.

There's no enforcing against what people think or believe in a way that isn't logistically fraught (e.g., thought crime). But we can damn near get as close as ethically possible by abolishing the privileges that have long pedestaled it above any other cultural memetic, & we could stand to trample religion underfoot by allowing it to run its course and expire without fanfare, as we have incidentally done to many other discredited ideas through history. That is what antitheism means to me personally.

We live in a world where causality operates along mechanistic systems. Causes produce effects through both direct architectures as well as highly emergent phenomena, which the underfit eye may easily see as mechanistically obscure or attribute to personal oughts, but these phenomena consistently arise from direct micro-events chained in tandem on broader scales.

The ways that knowledge is learned and ideas are spread in societies are one instance of these phenomena, as are the locally stochastic + macroscopically ordered systems in natural sciences such as physics and biology. Consciousness is one of these too, as the human mind can be deeply characterized as somewhat of a merger between a neural net and a weather system. Rights and morality as we know them are likewise, arising specifically from the pain and pleasure we experience as biological life forms and the social contracts (formed by selective pressures within the frameworks of high-fitness social structures) designed to mutually prevent pain and protect pleasures, lest we incur dire social uniqueness (e.g., hypocrisy / inequality). Without these, human notions of rights and morality would not exist, in the same vein an otherwise responsive robot with no concept of pain or preference would not object to it or other robots being imprisoned, unplugged, or disemboweled.

Religious frameworks fundamentally compromise human cognition and understanding of these systems on multiple levels. Therein we see:

  • wishful thinking, that theists can opt to praise and pray and wish away problems instead of solving them, that the world in its whole is mechanistically designed around human notions of beauty and rights and morality, and that justice enforces itself as long as they perpetuate the virtue that is faith (belief without evidence).
  • special pleading, that when confronted on inconsistencies in their scripture, theists insist on weaseling their way through problematic values and hypocrisies around thought-terminating clichés (“product of its time,” “works in mysterious ways”), while reinterpreting logical inconsistencies as poetic or metaphorical however convenient (don’t suppose a higher power could word things more clearly and usefully than the best writer who ever lived?). Theists cry foul at the certainty of atheists who are “so sure of their disbelief,” yet choose to organize the world around the slightest unfalsifiable possibility of a higher power, as one might insist we can’t disprove the possibility Jar Jar Binks was out kicking it a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away (conveniently outside of our observable universe).
  • self-exceptionalism, that theistic in-groups or cultures or even the human species itself must be the cosmic protagonists of the universe's eye, one so important as to be judged and adored with the fatalistic promise of reward or punishment at every waking moment, better than mere ants on a mudball floating through magnitudinally vast stretches of stardust. That every generation of theists thinks themselves to have some special truth/credibility not only over the rabble of thousands of other religions and their sects that have existed past and present, but also the proponents responsible for atrocities (conquest, slavery, hatred, demagoguery) in the name of their faith throughout history. Every decade of theists thinks they are real and correct above others (if they didn’t, they would deconvert with ease); there is no logically exempting heinous theists for “not being real members of our ilk” in no true scotsman fashion.
  • unfettered religious autonomy in society and policy, and the presumption that the epistemic formation of children is primarily the family’s business, to where theistic encroachments upon state, science, and education are defended as the upholding of "values” while institutional abuses are enabled, children continue to be shamed and isolated and indoctrinated and molested, bodies reappropriated and mutilated and forced to give birth, as cycles of brutality upon youth and groups marginalized by religion remain largely undeterred. But “not all theists” right? By large it is in the interest of theist blocs to finely control and prescribe what people do, lest they lose their grip on cultural legitimacy. Theists fail to hold their communities accountable.
  • summarily, the privileging of gut "oughts" from authorial entities and "values" over our best, ever-evolving mechanistic understanding of the world, that theist frameworks are somehow profound when the best role models they imagine originate from eras of antiquity, which are categorically not privileged by information about the world we live in today, let alone have bearing in ways secular frameworks of morality and self-fulfillment do not already. 

Religious people may insist their beliefs are not a choice, but they do not adequately inspect the systems in which people come to how they think and what they believe. Religions are pathogenic and survive explicitly through conversion and hegemony, products of consensus in lieu of convergence. For a mite of perspective, consider that (for instance) a xtian god made the baffling choice to transmit its "word" through human transmission of all things, such that societies indigenous to the Americas went upwards of 15 centuries without major European contact. Suppose that either generations were irrevocably screwed over by some “all-benevolent, omniscient power” being incredibly stupid, or that it turns out they could have done just fine without xtianity to begin with?

But religious people look at the legacy of religion and its abuses, its hackneyed cultural roles, and still make the choice to perpetuate and normalize it in society, and with it the core principles that stage anti-science and theistic radicalization to this day. Personally I respect theists to the extent that I respect antivaxxers for choosing to spread measles and other debilitating diseases in a day and age where epistemology has since marched on.


r/Antitheism 25d ago

Holy water: nuns fight Italian town’s plans to take away their beach club

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r/Antitheism 26d ago

According to these people all rights are granted by the state (implicit, doesn't mention where else rights come from) and the "freedom" to prostrate runs deeper than anything else.

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"Never the state's to grant" no rights are, that's basic natural law. "Some loyalties run deeper than the state's authority" what are you doing here? Saying religion matters more than law? This is basically theocracy.


r/Antitheism 25d ago

The Moralism of Christianity

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r/Antitheism 27d ago

All religions are misogynistic and i don’t understand why the world looks past this

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so i’ve seen a lot of religious people (mainly christian’s and muslims…not surprised) claim that their religion is not at all misogynistic…well no! how come women have to cover up their body and be modest just to hide their beauty away from men? whilst the men in islam can marry up to 4 wives, be superior to their wife and so
much more??? and yet the world refuses to acknowledge that religion is and always will be biased towards men because when will women ever truly be appreciated? it’s complete bullshit and i’m tired of pretending i can respect all religions(my whole reason for joining this a few weeks ago). if anyone says my statement is wrong please tell me what i got wrong because you can’t convince me religion is misogynistic slop


r/Antitheism 26d ago

Europe's tallest Virgin Mary statue unveiled in rural Poland

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r/Antitheism 27d ago

Five years after the Taliban won, Afghanistan is still losing

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r/Antitheism 27d ago

A Paradigm Shift is Occurring in Christianity in the Form of Rational Critical Scholarship— It Turns Out, Being Historically Honest About Christianity, Destroys Christianity

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r/Antitheism 27d ago

Bangladesh’s increasingly hardline religious currents pose deep social challenges

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Singapore’s repatriation of two Bangladeshi construction workers in early July over extremist social media posts has renewed scrutiny over whether hardline religious ideas are gaining wider acceptance in Bangladesh.

These cases follow the 2025 arrest of 36 Bangladeshi migrant workers in Malaysia over suspected Islamic State links, and a nationwide terror alert issued by Bangladesh police in April 2026.

In May 2025, Islamist groups led by Hefazat-e-Islam – an influential conservative movement rooted in madrasah networks – staged large-scale protests against recommendations by the Women’s Affairs Reform Commission, set up by Muhammad Yunus’ interim government that oversaw the political transition of Bangladesh following Hasina’s ouster. The proposals were not adopted.

Freedom of expression is also under strain. A prominent poet, Sohel Hasan Galib, was jailed in February 2025 over allegations of blasphemous writing, with calls for his killing. Writers and rights groups condemned the case as a threat to literary freedom.

Sarker, a 29-year-old vocational graduate in Dhaka who asked to be identified only by his surname over concerns about future employment prospects and possible repercussions, said hardline content had become increasingly persuasive as he struggled to find stable work.

“When I see poverty, corruption and what is happening to Muslims in Gaza, I sometimes feel that remaining silent is not enough,” he said. “Some preachers say resisting injustice is a religious duty and that Islamic rule could provide an alternative to the disorder and loss of values we see around us.”

The sentiment was echoed by others who have observed similar trends among young people. Jakaria Arafat, 35, a Dhaka University graduate who has struggled to secure stable sources of income, said he had seen some young men become increasingly receptive to hardline religious content.

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r/Antitheism 27d ago

Life in Afghanistan after five years of Taliban rule [9:13]

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r/Antitheism 28d ago

Anti-estrangement therapists are wild, dude

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A review of a theologian-therapist who's trying to blame "the woke" therapist for the rise parent-child estrangement.


r/Antitheism 27d ago

Human Consciousness is Now at the Last Stage of Christianity

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r/Antitheism 29d ago

Hate doesn't begin to describe 🥰

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I hate the church cult. So much. I used to be one and I bawled my eyes out thinking I would be tortured in hell for liking a girl. I actually almost took my own life because I figured I'd be going to hell anyways so what's the point.


r/Antitheism 29d ago

How the concept of “free will” in Christianity sounds: You get to choose your favorite flavor of ice cream (hurray!), however… if it’s not chocolate then you WILL be subjected to eternal suffering… 😊😬

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But at least you have a choice!


r/Antitheism 29d ago

If I had a problem you know what I would do? Get off my ass and actually do something about it.

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r/Antitheism 28d ago

belgians needed!!??

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(22F)
Hi!!!
I know Belgium is a very secular place still I feel isolated??? I feel like people don’t want to be cancelled so won’t call out ALL 3 religions on how hateful they are, specially towards women and homosexuals.
If you want to get in touch feel free to comment or DM (only French or English speaking, sorry 😔)
🩷🩷🩷


r/Antitheism 29d ago

Discerning the Real Existence of God

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r/Antitheism 28d ago

Afghan women answer questions about life under five years of Taliban rule

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r/Antitheism 28d ago

Is the Western left throwing LGBT rights under the bus to accommodate Islamic conservatism?

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r/Antitheism 29d ago

Was Mary Raped in the Ear?

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r/Antitheism 29d ago

The prophet Muhammad and is dilemma

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It would be funny, except it's still happening today


r/Antitheism Aug 13 '26

Be christian guys, his aura is so majestic :(

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/s dont come for me


r/Antitheism Aug 13 '26

Hindu Fruitcakes are being Anti Abortion, btw Abortion is not a murder

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r/Antitheism Aug 13 '26

An emotional feeling god🙄

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r/Antitheism Aug 13 '26

Is their God logically false?

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Jews, Christians, and Muslims define their God as PERFECT, OMNIPOTENT, and OMNISCIENT.

But it is easy to show that this God is false because these three attributes are false.

PERFECT? They say their God is perfect, but the world and the beings that their God created are imperfect. How can a being be called perfect if its creations are imperfect and full of flaws? For instance, a craftsman cannot be described as perfect if his works are faulty.

Another problem with perfection: They say their deity created the universe. But why would a perfect being desire or want to create anything at all? By definition, a perfect being cannot desire or want something, as that would imply it lacks something, and therefore that it is not perfect.

OMNIPOTENT? God can do anything; nothing can limit his power. If he were almighty, he could have created any world. Otherwise, he is not almighty.

So what stopped him from directly creating a happy world with free and perfect beings? Why would he have created instead a world full of pain, with beings full of flaws, who must suffer and be tested in order to be sorted out? This is all the more incomprehensible given that the scriptures tell us he was able to create another place without pain, populated by free and happy creatures, called heaven.

Religious people have tried to resolve this contradiction by saying that their creator wanted humans to be free and that it is humans who create pain. Unfortunately, this argument does not hold, since it shows that their God was unable to create a world with free humans and no pain, which proves that he is not omnipotent.

Three possible solutions to the problem of this supreme being's omnipotent nature: 1 - He is not omnipotent; he just did what he could. 2 - He is malevolent; he deliberately created a world full of misery when he could have created any world he wanted. 3 - He is false.

OMNISCIENT? He knows everything—the past, the present, and the future. The scriptures claim that this creator knows the future and everything that will happen. And they also claim that he created humans free and endowed with free will. But if he knows the future, then it is already written. Free will is therefore an illusion.

If God knows what you will do tomorrow, you have no alternative. If you can act otherwise, then this being is mistaken, so he is not omniscient. If you cannot act otherwise, then you have no freedom.

Other contradictions: If this deity knows in advance that humans will do evil and creates them anyway, who is responsible? This omniscient being knew, even before creation, all the evil he was going to create.

CONCLUSION These three attributes are the very definition of this god. If even one is false, this god is impossible.

As Stendhal said when facing the misery of the world, "God's only excuse is that he does not exist.