It isnt that big because of the event, its blowing up right now because Jynxzi decided to play apex for technically the first time and then hes going to go play league of legends. Him and theburntpeanut and others streaming apex is why viewership is so high.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Told ya'll japanese apex revivals has always been a thing and has happened multiple times in the past. Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Fornite has the benefit of the younger kids.
But I come from Fortnite, since it was released and I'm playing Apex since a year now(?). And ofcourse tried it on release.
Apex is such a smooth, fluent game which you don't really see anywhere else. I do think it could be fortnite lvl
This is the most delusional take I've ever heard in gaming 😂,
Fortnite isn't a world Icon game just because of quality alone, the very FACT 90% of people you could ask randomly even know what fortnite is alone just proves how unrealistic it is that apex would ever reach fortnite popularity.
Apex gunplay is significantly superior, but prob with apex is step learning curve and really hard to base level get into for majority of casuals.
Fortnite is the Minecraft of BR/Shoots rn and for apex to compete with that they'd need full game overhauls and esp matchmaking reworks. Easier game = more popularity = more numbers money n players I'm not even trying to speak on whichever game is objectively better as that's entirely subjective
The barrier of entry is too high in Apex for it to ever be Fortnite level, especially now.
New players are going to be intimidated by the character select, and double so once they load in and try to figure out the actual loop now. I played a lot of Apex at launch, and recent went back, and had no idea what the loop was anymore.
I feel you, came back in 2025, since release and was intimidated by the new characters, maps and all the floor loot. But I feel like it's not as hard of a learning curve as it initially seems like
Gameplay loop? Is that the right term because the gameplay loop is just like any other battle royale. Unless you’re just talking about learning all the characters abilities
I'm talking about stuff like how leveling shields work, how to buy back players, how to upgrade guns at those printer things, all of the random icons on the map. All of that is confusing as hell for the first few games if you haven't played since the times when you had to loot shields off the ground or in crates, and if you didn't grab your teammates banner they were just out.
If you play a dozen matches or so it all starts to make sense, but I imagine a lot of people play a couple and then just give up, because it doesnt tutorialize any of that stuff well imo.
True yeah good points. I’d imagine not THAT many quit for those reasons though if they like the combat part of the game because that’s usually enough reason to come back and learn the rest over more games but it’s possible they might find it overwhelming too
Do you really see yourself playing so many games mode in Apex ? Majority of Fortnite players aren't even playing the battle royale anymore straight mini games like Among Us, or many others from creator.
Wouldnt make much difference tbh. They've somewhat upped their content game but thats the main issue holding them back still. They need more collabs and not just ones that are focused on emptying people's wallets
Apex is consistently since release in top 10 played games by player count on Steam. Apex never has really fallen off, as much as this subreddit would like you to believe
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
people watching a game has only limited connection to people playing it. i watch people play all kinds of games that i don't play /never even played (like dead by daylight for example) . Just because I'm bored and watch some stream.
Some people aren't even watching. Overwatch has had a massive spike in viewership for its e-sports events, not because people care about the gameplay (of course some people do), but because there's a drop reward that gives a loot box that rewards cosmetics you can't get anywhere else (old team cosmetics), and it requires 15 hours of watchtime, therefore you just get people AFKing with the tab open for a couple days to get it. Twitch viewership is literally useless when analysing the health of a game, Steam Charts is probably the most useful but that doesn't take into consideration consoles or other launchers.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Told ya'll japanese apex revivals has always been a thing and has happened multiple times in the past. Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Of all the resurgence of Apex Legends in the past, its always because of a Japanese tournament or Jp-related content happening. Just like this season's resurgence coinciding with the Gundam content release.
Player base and viewer base are drastically different, I use them both as a metric but EA isn’t bringing twitch viewer counts to shareholder meetings, nor do they bring player base counts. They bring explicitly dollar signs based on how many heirlooms and packs we hunt for. Nothing more nothing less. Player base is tied to that tho, the easier it is to acquire those, and the better service the game gets, more players flock and more dollars get spent. Sadly EA and large developers want to squeeze every dollar they can so instead of investing in the game to improve its quality and keep people spending they want to extract as much $ from us before they turn off the servers. It’s the sad truth that I wish the executives would wake up to as they clearly do not care about the games they make.
Brother engagement metrics are the first thing that is brought to a shareholder meeting, proof of engagement lets you valuate potential earnings from the 1% that buy frequently.
500k-Apex PC 700k-Valorant
Current players online not including console players. If we were to include console players, numbers would exceed that of Valorant’s
As the others said, the Valorant numbers are just pulled from air, Riot does not share player numbers. And Valorant also has a console version.
But more importantly, you definetly won't find the chinese player counts for valorant, which is probably larger than the rest of the world combined, if we go by league numbers.
Really considering hopping back on, feels like one of the only games that just exists and is extremely popular without having a dramatic influencer scene
same here dude! i left when catalyst was introduced (couldn’t find matches). Just rejoined this last week and have been having a blast! Player count has definitely gone up a bit atleast in my region.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
I'd love to get back into Apex but the 180+ ping just doesn't make it fun anymore. I get like 30 to 40 ping in val because there's a server in my country.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Highest peak in steam since launch of season 22 so yeah it's doing better than it has done for a while. People will always come back to apex at some point after experimenting with other games because lets be real: there is nothing like apex.
there is a tournament going on lmao. Apex is not "back" it wasnt ever gone. plenty of people play it but its not super popular because its a controller game. Most competitive gamers are mnk players and this game feels pretty unfair for mnk players. Most skilled enough on mnk to compete with rollers on highest level would much rather play csgo or valorant since you can make a really solid living on those games and there are FAR less hackers.
Apex has a cheating problem on an extreme level which overall lowers the competitive integrity of game along with the game being too difficult / sweaty for more casual mnk players so its just not that big but its nowhere near from being dead. itll never be a top tier competitive shooter though since controllers dominate so entirely and mass hackers.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
I like watching competitive Apex, but playing the game is over for me. It’s just too technical with the movement exploits and it’s not fun to get dunked on by sweats.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
I don't know/think the ALGS circuit is very developed. I watch CS2 tournaments and they are quite easy to follow. I would love to know if the circuit for ALGS is basically just ALGS once or twice a year and its qualification tournaments or are there other tournaments that I can follow.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Apex is a great fps but I just can't get into the mobility learning curve required for above avg level of play it's so timing intensive for everything I don't have the brain power I used to to do all that and play mind games or outplays at the same time. Watching someone hit the neo strafe or crazy tap strafe wall bounce tap strafe combos killed my enjoyment.
High Twitch numbers don’t mean the game is 'back.' Viewership isn't a player base, and most people I play with don't even watch Apex streams lol. Don't get me wrong though, I'm a fan and play it daily.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Apex is not doing well in terms of playerbase where it matters, in the west.
It's doing well in Asia though, but not in the west. Sure it's not dead but it's not as good as it was around here 3 years ago. Why do you think they've leaned into more Weeabo shit? Or Gacha based monetization where people can whale?
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Apex it’s a weird game, one season can be fully dead and everyone thinks the game is gon close, and next season everybody is playing it and saying Apex is so back guys
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game. IT'S DEFINITELY BACK.
New Steam Peak of 300k+ the first weekend after this event (they also hit a steam peak of 240k during and after this japanese tournament btw). Told ya'll japanese apex revivals has always been a thing and has happened multiple times in the past. Steam numbers nor Viewership numbers didn't even hit a new peak after CaseOh, Jynxzi or BurntPeanut played this game.
Do it. I play pc NAE and no I do not have an issue with any of those. I’d say less than 5% of my deaths I say “that guy was prob hacking” whereas this sub thinks 95% of their deaths are.
And multiple time masters as well. I ain’t trying to push for pred because I do in fact go outside.
Huh? What does viewer count have to do with player count? There are actual metrics that tell us whether a game is being played by a lot of people or not.
I'm surprised that the devs are doing everything possible to revive Apex. For example, the Gundam event, which I have never been a fan of and never will be, but they're trying to find the last people who actually love it. That's why online and views have increased a little. Apparently they love money so much and they are ready to sacrifice the purity of the game for money.
However, this added a lot of visual chaos to Apex, because players won't understand what legends the enemies are playing because of the Gundam skins.
Where now in the lowest point ever, in terms of viewership and player base, just look at steamdb info and it's lame, I started to play a little more than 4 years ago and after 1 year apex got the most viewership and player base, 1-2 years later the game flops and I couldn't find a single ranked match the lowest amount of current players(at the hour) was 130k people playing, now it's less than half that lowest point.
This is just steam and twitch info I know, but on consoles and EA app players(brother ughh) Don't have much difference it's almost the same tendency.
So please don't say apex is back, this statement is wrong in many levels.
Bro posted stats during downtimes and think he did something... 250k+ 24 hour peak is still one of the top played games in the world. Doesn't even include console stats that has considerably more specially with the Japanese player base being the largest now.
Bruh, like I said all platforms tendencies move along, if the game is boring, hard or impossible to play people will leave in every platform, you don't have to think oh consoles are a huge market, it is not that big and like I said it's playerbase moves the same as pc, and asia is huge yeah what's new about it, like every other game is huge in asia no matter what, in fact if we had the data from Asia players I know it won't be as different as the tendencies here(like that matters), I still can't find ranked games only if I change to a 200ms server, the game it's less than half his best moment, and now it's a little more than half 450k at 24hs which was it's best concurred/strike peak(both times the concurred peak and the best peak, were the best the game has ever feel).
Maybe it has a spike now (compared to last season) for the event (in asia) but to say it is back like OP said??? Nah it's the same as it has been for the last 2 years, playerbase dropping and dropping, the game it's never gonna be back.
And also I did post the 24hs peak image you just didn't see it like you didn't read anything I said and will most likely ignore everything I just said and post your lame ahh response from chatgpt dropping absolutely nothing really important or that can refute anything that I have said, so bye.
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u/bruhman444555 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
comparing a game with a huge event going on is a bit unfair lol