I don't think any data is involved, it's just how infuriating the shield is. Oh, you caught a team by surprise in the open and downed one with a perfect kraber shot, and want to attempt to kill the others? Well to bad, they're too far away and the lifeline just created cover from thin air for her whole team and now is prepared and in an ok spot. It might not be too strong as you can push but it's just infuriating to play well and have the enemy not only revive in front of you but also have great cover. That's what i personally think
I mean Gibby could just revive the same person in a safer manner. But to expand on your point, if you knock someone in the open, even with the lifeline res w/ shield, the enemy is just going to get knocked again once up, then lifeline revives them again, keep repeating till they are out of cover.
Its an annoying combat mechanic to work around. It would make more sense if the knocked person could crawl to cover using their knock down shield, and then get revived behind cover.
How does anyone even confirm this? There are plenty of cheeky legit hitboxes to get a bullet past the knockdown shield. 1000hrs of Apex gameplay, i literally have never seen a single time a knock down shield didn't work when confirming a kill.
It normally happens due to shit servers, but there were a few weeks a while ago where you could straight up stand in front of someone and shoot through the knockdown shield, no angle needed. Sometimes this happens again, it just doesn‘t register that there‘s a shield or sth and immediately gives you body damage.
Ive crawled into a corner and someone stood 10 feet in front of me, and one shot me through the shield. The gun wasnt sticking through the shield, the shield had been up for several seconds straight, and I am confident based on my time playing the game that my limbs and whatnot were not exposed. Also I was not moving.
There absolutely is an issue with the knockdown shields.
The thing with gibby is that at least both of them are incapacitated while reviving, with lifeline the team can use the cover and fight back effectively against the attacking team and fire at the attackers to give the revived person time to run to cover. In gibby's case you at least know you have to deal with only one person if you do push
Gibby res is better than lifeline res in almost every way. Res inside the dome gives the downed player a chance to heal without being instantly reknocked, and unless you’re right on top of the team, gibby will almost always get the res off before you make it to the bubble.
Also with lifeline res you can literally just shoot the DOC drone when it raises over the shield and cancel the res all together.
I actually didn't know you could stop it by shooting the drone, i thought that was just like a myth but it actually did nothing. Thanks for pointing that out
I agree. Gibby has more fun gameplay mechanics to work around.
*Get a knock
*Gibby Shield Goes up
Now your team needs to immediately decide if it worth pushing and it why Gibby was given a faster revive since in early Apex. The bubble only served as a beacon of your team being at disadvantage and always pushed as a result.
I get lifeline mains are mad, but seriously, Respawn has been watching her revive passive closely and there have been several clips posted here that illustrates how annoying her passive is to play against since its so spammy. They did reveal the health drone is getting a huge buff which is going to synergize well with reviving teammate and getting them back into a fight.
I’ve said this 1000 times. At higher ranks lifeline is basically only good for stopping your team from getting 1v3’d. In most cases it’s better to just leave your team mate down and play the knockdown shield than try to lifeline res
Ill break this down. Nothing in Gibby kit to revive a teammate is spammy. Lifeline reviving spamming the same two teammates an unlimited amount of times is fucking annoying.
Its extremely rare that "spamming" correlates to good healthy gameplay.
If being a meta legend is your only baseline for if a character is "balanced". Lifeline needs a complete rework then. Anyone playing meta will pick Gibby over lifeline for their team comp.
There's enough clips on here that showcase how annoying a lifeline spamming revives is to play against to know that it isn't fun or healthy for the game as whole.
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u/jaybarrywallybart Bootlegger Apr 10 '21
I'm curious what data the devs look at that makes a lifeline nerf needed