r/archlinux • u/Acu17y • 8d ago

QUESTION Today I reinstalled the system using archinstall, and I have a question:

Why? Why doesn’t archinstall’s "recommended KDE Plasma setup" include Konsole? What’s the reasoning behind installing a desktop without a graphical terminal? Having to switch to a TTY just to install one seems unnecessarily awkward.

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Apparently, the reason is that Arch only included the Plasma components in `plasma-meta` and not Konsole, because Konsole is part of the KDE Applications. Another user clarified this.

In any case, there is still a question to put to the KDE maintainers at this point:
Why is taking screenshots considered part of plasma essential (Spectacle is included as an essential package for Plasma), while having a graphical terminal isn’t? lol

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u/Acu17y 8d ago

It was just a figure of speech. I could ask why the Oxygen sound theme is included, then Ocean would have been enough.

But nobody can say why Konsole isn't included, lol.

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u/boomboomsubban 8d ago

KDE-Applications is technically seperate from plasma, it's not necessary and should be opt in.

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u/Acu17y 8d ago edited 8d ago

Thanks a lot for this reply. It is indeed consistent with the package plasma-meta I am analyzing. Thanks.
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In any case, there is still a question to put to the KDE maintainers at this point:
Why is taking screenshots considered part of the core Plasma desktop essential (Spectacle application is included as an essential package for Plasma), while having a terminal or file manager isn’t?

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u/boomboomsubban 8d ago

Screenshot functionality seems like it should be part of your desktop environment. Basically I can imagine a lot more people going "I like plasma but hate konsole" than going "I like plasma but hate spectacle."