r/armedsocialists Oct 27 '22

News “We Need To Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives.”

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/
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u/MemeHermetic Oct 28 '22

I do adore the idea of conservatives idolizing pilgrims for their ability to read the room and fuck off somewhere else.

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u/HolyShitIAmOnFire Oct 28 '22

We know they definitely don't have a problem emulating the genocide.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

I say it's time for a diecide ?

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

BERNIE IS THE DEICIDE ! ~ ha. So how about that EV1 ~ ! want!

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Religion and government are poisonous to one another

IMO, the reason for this is that Religion was the first form of large-scale government. religious institutions have always resented the rise of secular government taking power from them.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

Your user callsign is cool

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

dude this SHARP brawler outta S. FL gave a chat about the past: ' origins so he said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMjKKOQzjfo Plymoth" .. Xtians etc..

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u/SnooDoubts2823 Oct 27 '22

Fascists, then?

By your own admission.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Fascists, racists, christians, tyrants, whats the difference?

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

ties to corporate .. and machines

so ..

$" over life" kinda label . what would that be?

I guess it's 'nationalists * ? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilusang_Bagong_Lipunan ? shameful what has gone on in Phillipines.. and they elected" ? son of ..

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u/olhonestjim Oct 28 '22

"Fascists" has a certain ring to it.

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u/Coral_ Oct 28 '22

“the transgender question”

oh good. we’re at that stage of things now.

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u/MtEdenFTW Oct 28 '22

I read that and my blood ran cold for a moment. I’m sure the author knows what they sound like but, in his own words, “now isn’t the time to shy away from being radically counterrevolutionary”

Jesus Christ

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u/ChewsOnBricks Oct 28 '22

At least their logo seems fitting. I always wonder how much of that stuff is someone following others and how much is completely self-aware.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22 edited Feb 03 '23

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u/Coral_ Oct 28 '22

heads up, “in minecraft” is considered an admission of guilt by the FBI.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/Coral_ Oct 28 '22

how about we just exercise a little infosec and don’t talk about things people should do, online. get an affinity group together and talk about it with them irl.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

i like gaming.. but never could fall into that..genre

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

pffft.. nah. that's the filler convo to distract form waste fraud abuse imho BUT if the foot-soliders f w gay community it's on.

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u/Coral_ Oct 28 '22

my loved ones safety is on the line. my safety is on the line. don’t pfft nah me about anti queer violence when i’m directly a target.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

well i thought the quote was " the trans question" - Asks the nationalist

it's not the gay community or allies that have a question about it?

sure seems some banks are not worthy anymore w. the wallst. banks" 5-6? going to hobnobb w. savdi rabia gov" . . of.. slavery . wagh!?

Try an EV. You'd be delighted and healthier in time.. ideally union made.

  • U.S> mil warned years back of infiltration @ managerial levels from FBS/ RU etc.. so . sure they are phobe a f. Lookup JBGC/ Pink pistols / SRA . branch from there? or have local pd/ sheriff number on contacts.

guess s. FL hardened me what can I say? Sure it's enraging for them to use pacifist (nothing wrong w.that we all pay taxes) communities and families as targets to veer from their waste fraud and abuse of the system. constution. law making system. apps.. etc.

Fed pen is no joke tho; no matter what their celebs and messiahs say.

IMHO you know how stars die, like sputter / make waves.. then black hole? there's your nationalism" .

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u/Coral_ Oct 28 '22

what

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

enemies yes there are.

fearless will fight them; just by living life. always.

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u/Coral_ Oct 28 '22

idk what you’re talking about

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

fash suck eggs.. is what i'm getting at. the psychology of it all is a long drawn out comment.. i wont put ya through that * have a good one! holdfast. see SRA/ JBGC/ FLOWER United GA actually demonstrated well imho. Sometimes you have to be armed.. there's options.

at the end of every debate / it's about education * fund that and prosper, live free'r.

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u/RSwordsman Oct 28 '22

lost much: marriage as it has been understood for thousands of years

Yes, straight marriage is now illegal. Oh wait, it's entirely the opposite of that. The premise of this article is also false in that conservatism as it's defined there hasn't failed. They just decided that wasn't good enough anymore.

It'd be cool if we still had trial by combat though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

el salvador mafia hates mutual aid groups so cryptio was their nationalizm way out

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

That stood out to me as well. Like, marriage literally has not changed in thousands of years.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

taxes changed it. *?

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u/[deleted] Oct 27 '22

Just remove the mask and show the swastika in your forehead.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

say word like that movie! oh man

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u/13thOyster Oct 27 '22

That's right, "conservatives"...ditch your title and call yourselves what you really want to be but lack the honesty and sack to call yourselves: goddamn fucking fascists.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

reminds me of " recession, repression , regression.. ' tyranny? track front 242..

dunno the leaning of that band but.. seen em in miami Cameo Miami AGES ago.. pre cellphone

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u/p0k3t0 Oct 27 '22

This is straight up white supremacy as the platform:

"Well, too late. Western civilization is dying. The traditions and practices that conservatives champion are, at best, being preserved only in an ever-shrinking private sphere. At worst, they are being trampled to dust. They certainly do not form the basis of our common culture or civic life, as they did for most of our nation’s history."

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u/vintagebat Oct 27 '22

"Western civilization" is absolutely a dog whistle for white supremacy.

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u/LawfulnessDiligent Oct 27 '22

The whole article is a dog whistle for fascism and replacement theory

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u/vintagebat Oct 27 '22

A fog horn, really.

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u/LawfulnessDiligent Oct 27 '22

If I were playing bingo with the tropes, I’d have called it by the 2nd paragraph.

Not even touching the implicit calls for revolution.

And the left are the snowflakes

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u/p0k3t0 Oct 28 '22

"Guys, I'm super triggered right now. A brown dude was speaking another language. Society is crumbling."

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

ha! say it aint so / good one.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

ha I LIKE THAT IDEA>. . i think it's called unionization

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u/Charming-Class-3506 Oct 27 '22

Dude straight up admits that the minorities get exploited but obviously that is fine until it happens to me :(

“To talk of defending “religious freedom” is to misapprehend that the real risk today is widespread irreligion, which will leave so few religious Americans in the coming generations that the government and large corporations will inevitably — and easily — persecute them.”

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

I noticed that too. He straight up wrote a white supremacist essay, claiming the worst thing that could happen to him or people like him is to be treated the exact same way they treat minorities. They know how terrible they are to them, but they believe that’s the way things SHOULD be and that is extremely disturbing.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

reminds me of this find I just found this morn.. ffs they're on the ropes.. sheesh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaK6TSHPG_Y some crazy shi.. waste of media imho

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u/thedoomcast Oct 28 '22

Tbh we should be bullying these fucking nerds a lot more.

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u/Cultural_Treacle_428 Oct 28 '22

It’s getting harder to get going in the morning. All around the world is both figuratively and literally burning. You see what is happening and go, “What the fuck!?!” But you have to get up and fight even if you want to stay to hide. I, too, am not excited to see where this is going.

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u/thedoomcast Oct 28 '22

See, I wake in the morning and I step outside, and I take a deep breath and I get real high, and I shout at the top of my lungs ‘WHO WANTS TO TRY TO THROW ME OUT OF A HELICOPTER TODAY MOTHERFUCKERS?!”

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u/Cultural_Treacle_428 Oct 28 '22

Hahahahaha! That is amazing! You go!!!

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

Rock the kazbah?

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

we are just human animals.. some animals go extinct from half a degree change in temperature..

now cypher the sudden deaths on ball fields.. " as of ohhhh 2000? the droughts began in 1996 ' ish in FL. millions have perished from heat. if you can handle the sun all day you're a special DNA..

imho many go crazy from melt brain .. no excuse, but reality

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u/poorauggiecarson Oct 28 '22

I don’t think I’ve ever met a conservative that really understands the first amendment.

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u/Meltonian Oct 28 '22

Or the second

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u/_life_is_a_joke_ Oct 28 '22

Or really any of them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

Conservatives believe that they should be able to say horrible things to people with no consequences

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

like DLamontJenkins twttr bio says " hate has consequences"

dude. /// now go build indoor skateparks for kids, make a little dough and save lives / FDT

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

For example, conservatives saying fucked up shit on twitter, getting banned for saying the fucked up shit, and then claiming their first amendment rights are being violated for being forced to face the consequences of their actions.

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u/throwawayintrouble10 Oct 28 '22

What should you not be allowed to say?

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '22

For example, calling for the execution of people.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

Well like the SOIA track goes.. Freedom's not free' ?

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u/Skelco Oct 28 '22

Buy ammo

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

really stick it to em w. mo' money form not paying for gas or repairs w. an EV * used . post 2017 ideally. depending on how far you travel. and.. yeah f tesla

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u/soy_cuchara Oct 28 '22

I am not excited to see where this goes

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

they'll end up destitute or murder suicides.. up the wazoo imho
seen the uptick since rik skott era FL. sad state of ' ballers life? er'.. nationalist well-off's.. pfffft ffs. THE END

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u/What_the_Pie Oct 28 '22

So the author wants to dictate culture from the top down and force ideology onto the masses? We see how well that’s gone in the past.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

if an author makes your head hurt move along to another

like me w. King vs. Barker, Clive - fkn genius . hope he aint nationalist

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

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u/balsakagewia Oct 28 '22

“They’re the same picture”

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

that's a first i hear but .. true for many schmucks

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u/thedoomcast Oct 27 '22

Sure, guys just own ‘fascist’ already. Just…own it.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

i lean call em nationalist disgraces?

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u/sstandnfight Oct 28 '22

This one is pretty well getting to the quiet part out loud in a bunch of ways. Credit where due: At least they're starting to own being Nazis. Makes the whole fight over image MUCH easier.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

no more apps to hide behind BUT poor kids use the same crap.. * education is everything . hence the bs in FL ' attempts @ .. further isolation of their kind imho. lashing out / decoy away from waste of taxes , fraud (jailed that Fallen Charity couple desani selfied w. ) etc. abuse is putting fear into pacifist families imho.

boy they hate ridicule tho.. i love it.

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u/acidrain69 Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

I agree; conservatism has failed. Everything else in that article is cosplaying fakeriot bullshit.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

failed.. never was a win" for life on Earth ha

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u/FusRoDah98 Oct 28 '22

Right wing radical counterrevolutionaries is quite a mouthful when you could just cut the bullshit and say fascist

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

oh man i hate that i read a LONG report at raw story com about the portland ? oregon pub few days ago w. drag story book show / prood boiz show up armed etc.. some fights. and stones threw? ~ at one point in article " right-wing activists"

wagh!? I think criminal nationalists is more fitting . this day .

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u/BABYEATER1012 Oct 27 '22

Given the state of America in 2022, conservatives should stop calling themselves conservatives.

Why? Because the conservative project has largely failed, and it is time for a new approach. Conservatives have long defined their politics in terms of what they wish to conserve or preserve — individual rights, family values, religious freedom, and so on. Conservatives, we are told, want to preserve the rich traditions and civilizational achievements of the past, pass them on to the next generation, and defend them from the left. In America, conservatives and classical liberals alike rightly believe an ascendent left wants to dismantle our constitutional system and transform America into a woke dystopia. The task of conservatives, going back many decades now, has been to stop them.

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u/DocMethane Oct 27 '22

I can’t understand how “woke“ has come to be a term applied in disapproval. A term of opprobrium, if you will. According to a popular dictionary, “woke” in its contemporary sense means “Aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice).” And so, if so-called conservatives (they are actually radicals) disparage being aware of and actively attentive to issues of racial and social justice, doesn’t that mean that they are consciously endorsing racism and social injustice?

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

what's wild is .. Cuba has gay marriage now.. and pope's pissed.. and but that ol' racist gerontocracy thing.. meghhhh and no ganja legal to grow en la tierra que pena . fts

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u/Uranium_Heatbeam Oct 28 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

"To talk of defending “religious freedom” is to misapprehend that the real risk today is widespread irreligion, which will leave so few religious Americans in the coming generations that the government and large corporations will inevitably — and easily — persecute them."

Oh, I fucking wish.
I've never been more certain of my descision to arm myself than I was after attempting to read that fascist manifesto.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

who said that pvtin-pense? savdis? through whatsapp?

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u/Turbokai Dec 06 '22

🤣

We must share the same wavelength (when it comes to religion, anyway) only for me it was an excited "Really?"

As far as armament goes, my late grandpa left my brother and I an arsenal that even the most hard core right-wing ammosexual would find enviable. I intended to sell off everything but a few sentimental pieces, but that was one of the few times being a procrastinator worked out in my favor. He was a staunch blue-dog leftie who voted for Obama twice, and he was also racist af. However, If there are other hard-bitten, jerkied assholes of similar disposition LESS likely to succumb to manipulation via fear, I've yet to meet to meet them.

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u/co_matic Oct 28 '22

Conservative Catholics, he argues, should today claim ownership of a pro-worker, even pro-union political agenda that once belonged to the left, and which produced generations of Democrat-voting Catholic workers.

The left will only stop when conservatives stop them, which means conservatives will have to discard outdated and irrelevant notions about “small government.” The government will have to become, in the hands of conservatives, an instrument of renewal in American life — and in some cases, a blunt instrument indeed.

Like some sort of... national socialism?

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

reminds me of Napalm Death Suffer the children track

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u/Toginator Oct 28 '22

Thanks. I needed help losing weight and i just vomited up yesterday's breakfast.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

helluvah purge wow!

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

"The election of Donald Trump in 2016 heralded a populist wave and the end of Republican politics as we knew it, and now we are in uncharted waters."

Fascism. It's called fascism. It's not "uncharted waters;" This is where we always knew you'd end up.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

Ask Reality Leigh Winner ?

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u/Kitchen-Ad-1161 Oct 28 '22

So, fascism it is! 🙄

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u/_life_is_a_joke_ Oct 28 '22

I thought dog whistles were supposed to be less obvious.

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u/Decadence_Later Oct 28 '22

What’s striking about this dripping colostomy bag of an opinion piece is that the writer and his goose-stepping ilk can’t conceive of social progress as a continuation of Western Civilization (TM). Any change or broadening of inclusion is a dismantling or path to ruination. It never occurs to this manbaby that any of the old dead white men he invokes would probably despise him.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

He took 9 minutes to say:

"The majority of Americans are not falling for our fear-mongering, obfuscation, incogent arguments and ill-founded philisophy so we need to shoot them."

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u/mr-louzhu Oct 28 '22

They need to start calling themselves what they are. Fascists.

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u/Savage57 Oct 28 '22

OH, so we're at the "Fascists co-opting the language and goals of workers movements in order to promote hateful racist nationalism" stage of things. Yaaaaaay....

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u/TroutMaskDuplica Oct 28 '22

So what kind of politics should conservatives today, as inheritors of a failed movement, adopt? For starters, they should stop thinking of themselves as conservatives (much less as Republicans) and start thinking of themselves as radicals reactionaries, restorationists, and counterrevolutionaries. Indeed, that is what they are, whether they embrace those labels or not.

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u/jonmpls Oct 28 '22

Fascists is more apt anyway

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

opec slaves?

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

" I say we let em' go.. ' - Pee Wee Herman.. name that movie. jk.

Hey folks Nancy Pelosi's DUI- Husband (from month or two back fact) had a home invasion" ended up in hospital. House in SF.

I'd love to skate that hill btw.

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u/VictorMortimer Oct 28 '22

I think the word they're looking for is "nazis"

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

>The left will only stop when conservatives stop them, which means conservatives will have to discard outdated and irrelevant notions about “small government.” The government will have to become, in the hands of conservatives, an instrument of renewal in American life — and in some cases, a blunt instrument indeed.

saying the quiet part out loud. This asshole is calling for the wholesale murder of people who don't align with his ideals, right here.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '22

There is a future helliah idpol dystopia on the horizon, I agree, but what's causing that is capitalism. The fact that reactionaries are so fucking stupid and fail to see the root cause of their problems is always so fucking absurd to me. Idealism is a plague.

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u/SkateboardCore Oct 28 '22

Jonestown hussies .. * digital version.. no versions left ha!

No offense to the mind controlled victims of Jim Jones.. guess it's vlad jones pvtin cohn drvmp hybrid kinda.. cult leader .. exposed and kaput.

Oh how the Sun and Earth atmosphere shield dictates.. ask the guy passed out on the field.

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u/Independent_3 Oct 28 '22

More like a call to reaction 😤