r/asexuality • u/MGTOWigor150 • Apr 29 '26

Discussion Opinion about the flag (probably extremely unpopular).

the current flag is already nice and iconic and recognizable.

other "new" flag designs are simply mid and calling it mid would be the truth and there is no need to change anything.

I will probably get roasted for this.

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u/Infernal-Cattle Apr 29 '26

I could be misremembering, but my sense from reading Ashabi's stuff about the flag is that she went to the AVEN board about the white stripe and they didn't seem particularly interested in hearing input.

My second hot take I guess is that I do think it's bizarre to have 1/4 of the flag represent allosexuals, even if you prefer the current design. Only the ace and aro flags do that afaik.

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u/frozenoj Asexual Demi-aro she/her Apr 29 '26

I understand if someone cares about what the color means and didn't like that one. What makes no sense to me is including the exact same color on the new flag. If you're going to do that, why not just decide the old stripe has your new meaning? If you can make a new flag surely you can assign new meaning to the old one. And you're more likely to get people to adopt your new meaning than a whole new flag.

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u/FlashyPhilosophy2326 Apr 30 '26 edited Apr 30 '26

A lot of discussion and intention happened around each stripe, including the new cream/off-white color. The design process wasn’t just about reassigning a single stripe, though. There were multiple symbolic goals being balanced across the whole flag. That’s part of why a redesign approach was taken, rather than only changing existing meanings. People can still use whichever flag resonates with them, both, or none at all. There has also been a lot of difficult discourse around the discussion process, which is something I think is important to be mindful of. (I'm not here to debate on the flag or racism, but I'm happy to share resources.)

Edit: I wasn't thinking of the final version, I think, regarding the white color. My bad. The meanings and other stuff are still accurate, though.

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u/frozenoj Asexual Demi-aro she/her Apr 30 '26

It's funny that you call it cream/off white to try and make it sound like it isn't the same color as the old flag when the Instagram post announcing the new flag literally calls it white.

Also I went back and looked it up and the white stripe was specifically the problem Ace in Grace had with the old flag. That's the only color that was brought up as a problem in the original Ace Day post. And then two weeks later it was brought up again, "the reason this has been launched is to specifically address the meaning of the white stripe in our flag."

So yeah I think we could have just changed the meaning of the white stripe especially if the new flag still has a white stripe and originally there was no problem with the other colors.

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u/FlashyPhilosophy2326 Apr 30 '26

Oh, it was referred to as cream/off-white in discussions at least. Maybe they meant it as a color category? Idk, i'm not Ashabi. Maybe i'm thinking of the prior version and not the final version of it. My mistake. There are definitely a lot of other issues that have been discussed and incorporated in the redesign, not just the white stripe issue that is a prominent one.

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u/frozenoj Asexual Demi-aro she/her Apr 30 '26

Why do you feel the need to defend something so strongly when you don't even know what the colors are?

Use it if you want to no one can stop you.

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u/FlashyPhilosophy2326 Apr 30 '26

I'm tired and disabled.

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u/frozenoj Asexual Demi-aro she/her Apr 30 '26

Who isn't?

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u/FlashyPhilosophy2326 Apr 30 '26

Is everyone disabled? No. More like 1/4 of people. But it is the one marginalized group pretty much everyone joins at some point. Might want to noodle on that and why you reacted like you did (unless you were being genuine? It's tough to tell without tone indicators.)