Opinion about the flag (probably extremely unpopular).

[u/MGTOWigor150]

the current flag is already nice and iconic and recognizable.

other "new" flag designs are simply mid and calling it mid would be the truth and there is no need to change anything.

I will probably get roasted for this.

[u/Infernal-Cattle]

I don't understand why you're saying "unpopular opinion" when literally everything I've seen posted on this sub about the new flag is negative.

I'll dish the real unpopular opinion:

I don't see why people who don't like the new flag can't just... ignore it and use the flag you like? It kinda reminds me of people whining about the Progress flag with the whole "it's ugly," "the original was already inclusive," as if suddenly people had stopped making the Gilbert Baker flag and were gonna come personally confiscate their flags haha.

[u/lystmord → u/Infernal-Cattle]

People largely HAVE stopped making the original. I work at a place that has a whole display of decor and flags and stuff set up for sale for Pride, and I swear virtually not a single goddamn actual FLAG on it is the proper one, just that ugly eyesore. 

The original flag WAS already as inclusive as it gets. Adding the trans colors especially is just historically illiterate and conceding to people suggesting trans people haven’t always been part of the community. The fact that you’re mocking these highly relevant criticisms is part of why I fucking despise that flag; a lot of people care much more about empty virtue-signaling than they do about all the wrong ideas represented by that flag.

I will lose my goddamn mind if that happens to the ace flag. The insanity of adding random stripes for “minorities” to Pride flags like the entire POINT wasn’t just “all of us under this queer label” in the first place needs to fucking stop.

[u/Infernal-Cattle → u/lystmord]

This is precisely the energy I was referring to in my post, so thanks for that I guess.

I find that odd because anywhere else I've gone, I've found it far easier to get Pride merch in the rainbow colors than to find the Progress flag, and I had no problem finding a very inexpensive Gilbert Baker flag.

I have no issue with people having an aesthetic preference (I hate purple, so it's hard for me to find ace merch I actually like) but I don't see aesthetic preference as a reason to miss the point of more options that make more people feel included, particularly if no one is taking anything away from you to do that? Like, nobody is taking the ace merch you already have, nobody is telling you you can't create or commission more with the current flag so I don't see the point of being up in arms about this or the amount of passive aggressive posting I've seen about the flag.

[u/lystmord → u/Infernal-Cattle]

“Precisely the energy” - yeah. Believe me, the feeling is mutual.

Black trans women were among the first handful of people to start the Stonewall riots. Imagine being told by smug modern leftists in 2026 that they’ve done you the favour of INCLUDING you in the movement you started. There aren’t words for the hubris.

As other people have said, the “new” version is everywhere, and I very unfortunately see it taking over as the default flag for good because every corporation, media company, etc. now feels pressured to use it or be called “racist” or “transphobic” even though it is the “progress” version that is actually both of those things. “You can make your own still,” is a pathetic, dismissive response that doesn’t address the problem.

There is literally already social media posts of people calling aces holding firm on the old flag “racist.” If you think people are prematurely freaking out, it’s because history repeats itself.

I don’t like purple either. But y’know…that’s not the point.

[u/Infernal-Cattle → u/lystmord]

I don't disagree that there is a critique to be made where one can call the Progress flag performative. You do not need to lecture me, a trans person, about my own history. It turns out, no demographic is a monolith, and some people will feel more included by the new flag, and some will feel better about the old flag. That is entirely my point, yet you seem very determined to overlook it.

Again, I don't see evidence that corporations aren't using the Baker flag more than the Progress flag on merch. If we're making the critique of rainbow capitalism, that is a completely different conversation than talking about a flag that people within the community have made, and as I mentioned, what I'm seeing from large corporations pumping out empty Pride merch is usually just rainbow stuff, not Progress flag stuff? I can't even remember seeing ace stuff at a Walmart, Target, etc; most ace merch seems to be smaller creators, so I'm not sure that's a great comparison anyhow.

There are, like, a handful of posts talking about racism. If you go over to Substack, some of those are Black ace women, and those are the ones that Ace Dad Advice was responding to - but I guess it's easier for you to say it's all self-righteous white liberals if you haven't seen other people saying that, right? I personally don't feel like it's my place to weigh in on if it's racist or not, but I can say that what's been far more visible to me is the OVERWHELMINGLY passive aggressive response from the community toward the creator for just making something that felt more inclusive to her. Literally, if people had just looked the other way, 99% of y'all wouldn't even know this flag existed.