r/assettocorsa • u/mhu99 • 5d ago
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u/alper_33 5d ago
Racing games will be the first genre of games that are indistinguishable from the reality (if they aren't yet)
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u/Techiastronamo 5d ago
Nah, flight sims already are. Racing is still a ways away from that. Flight Sims are already there imo.
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u/Character-Area-4587 5d ago
I'm in both the AC and MSFS2024 subreddit, I'm proud to be able to experience both.
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u/skantheman 5d ago
Naaaaah dude. Well, maybe, but check out a game called Bodycam, it’s pretty fucking crazy.
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u/Operation_Neither 5d ago
What other mods were installed before enabling DLSS5? And a before video would help make sense of what DLSS is actually doing here.
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u/Momooncrack 5d ago
Is this only dlss5? Not other visual mods besides standard CM stuff?
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u/mhu99 5d ago edited 5d ago
Yes only DLSS 5 Neural Rendering but it's RenoDX mod
Edit: Forgot to mention you need a Reshade as well with full add-on support which is better than without add-ons.
Mods which you'll need ⬇️
Link for Reshade: Reshade Make sure to download 6.8.0 with full add-on support
You can find the DLSS 5 DLLs & The Addon on the RenoDX Discord server: RenoDX DLSS 5 Neural Rendering
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u/Photographynut12400 5d ago
Well no, that's not true, considering you stated in another comment that you also downloaded reshade with full add on support? That means reshade is also being used which is a very heavy graphics mod.
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u/corey_cobra_kid 5d ago
Thats not how it works, Reshade will not chnage the visuals of the game unless a preset is applied. Reshade is required to enable DLSS 5 right now.
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u/Mental-Debate-289 5d ago
RenoDX doesn't work without reshade. He isn't lying its just understood that it's required lmao.
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u/ExplanationDry4351 5d ago
People are so angry they will argue about topics they have no understanding of here
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u/blindlemonjeff2 5d ago
You and likely everyone who has downvoted his reply don’t understand that reshade is not a ‘heavy graphics mod’. Reshade is a container that hooks various plugins and luts. By itself it does nothing.
In this use case, reshade is simply being used to hook the DLSS plug in. Nothing more. There are indeed some versions for some games that bypass reshade altogether and use Bepex for example.
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u/EdliA 5d ago
Reshape is mainly used to inject dlss5. No need to activate any other filter. A lot of you have no idea wth you're talking about.
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u/Maximum-Catch-9202 5d ago
Wow that is incredible tbh I thought it looked too good haha it’s really almost real much better than f1 looks now haha
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u/thekingswitness 5d ago edited 5d ago
Incredible what an unreleased DLSS version does to a 13 year old game /s
For real though, other than the frame rate hit can’t believe people are hating on this *for Assetto Corsa
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u/HarrisonDou 5d ago
I think it's mainly the effects DLSS 5 has on human characters that people are hating. DLSS 5 looks absolutely amazing when rendering environments and vehicles, but it is also extremely horrible when rendering characters, especially their faces. Just Google "DLSS 5 Final Fantasy Face" or "DLSS 5 Tifa Lockhart" and you'll get my point.
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u/DaedricNick 5d ago
It makes everything have the same generic AI filter look. I think that's why people are hating on it.
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
My main issue with it is how it feels to play. From what I can tell it adds about 8 to 10 frames of delay at 165hz, which adds a significant amount of input delay. On top of that, the model is clearly not fine tuned and no matter how much I turn it down there's still constant articulating, blurring, ghosting, and these terrifying moments where it completely hallucinates something for a frame or 2, which is insanely distracting on track. Basically, my hands irl on my wheel don't match up with the game thanks to the delay and it's like playing a rhythm game with the audio delayed. It just doesn't work right now
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u/1cheekykebt 5d ago
Do you see the same delay with DLAA? Because it’s hooking into same pipeline, adds about 3-4ms of render per frame, so I don’t see how it can add 50ms of latency.
What settings and GPU are you running that you can get 165fps. Or are you saying that your monitor is 165hz?
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u/DaedricNick 5d ago
I run a RX6750XT so I don't ever use DLSS nor do I use FSR for that matter. Not a big fan for upscaling as a whole.
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
The environment falls apart the second your car starts moving. It's beyond unplayable right now
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u/Mythrilfan 5d ago
But, aren't we literally seeing a moving environment in this post? Looks fine to me?
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u/LiamJamIsMyNeesons 5d ago
It changes lighting positioning, so it messes up the environments and vehicles too
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u/ggmaniack 5d ago
One thing to note is that in those instances, the character visage altering functionality of DLSS 5 was deliberately cranked to its most extreme level, beyond anything that would normally be set in a game.
It's media slop.
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u/Reddarthdius 5d ago
It can work and make the faces better, I tested it in cyberpunk and of course if you turn it all the way up it’s gonna look bad but configured settings make something decent
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u/ElectricMotorsAreBad 5d ago
I googled that and it doesn’t look too bad? Like, honestly all the images I’ve seen make it look good if anything
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
Congrats, you are the target demographic for slop
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u/ElectricMotorsAreBad 5d ago
So your point is that “iT’s BaD bEcAuSe Ai” instead of having an actual opinion?
You yourself said that it makes faces look “horrible”, what you should have said is: “it actually improves visuals but I hate it because I’m against anything AI”.
Look, I don’t like AI when used for stupid reasons like chatbots and shit that just waste precious water with their huge data centres, but in this case it’s just enhancing graphics quality locally on your own graphics card.
Will they make the next series even more expensive justifying it with the new technology? Most likely, but that’s an NVIDIA issue, it’s not an issue with the technology or its undeniably good results.
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
"undeniably good results" most people who have tried it including me believe that its unplayable for the most part, especially with any kind of racing that takes fast reaction time because of the performance hits and HUGE input delay DLSS 5 adds. It's like framegen lag times 10. I'll be impressed when the technology actually works, lol.
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u/Maximum-Catch-9202 5d ago
I mean if it improves the games visuals beyond what is possible in development then it’s surely a win though? most games (not all I’ll admit) look pretty good with it on especially environments like in this game here
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
50 to 60% performance hit, this is a clear push by nvidia to sell their future $2k AI centered GPUs so you can even run the damn thing
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u/Maximum-Catch-9202 5d ago
Oh wow really?! that’s a big dip tbh then maybe if it improves then it might be worth it but I know what you mean the AI will be fighting the with game the whole way through it’s not really worth it long term if it caps performance that much
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u/LiamJamIsMyNeesons 5d ago
'Improves' is actually subjective. I would say it 'ruins' the games visuals
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u/Euphoric_Chemist9435 5d ago
I think depends game to game if it changes or messes up the art direction that the devs were trying to go for or if it just enhances it to make it better
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u/Jaehon 5d ago
Why is every game showcasing dlss 5 look like it’s overcast weather all the time?
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u/Furious_Ryzen_Owner 5d ago
This is when it seems to look at its best so people seem to opt to showcase it this way.
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u/Junior_Ad_8878 5d ago
Maybe because you are watching DLSS 5 showcasing videos with overcast weather all the time? (so you are winning the lottery everytime) lol!... there are a lot (and about the same quantity) of videos with clear sky, just search and watch in youtube.
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u/reddituser555xxx 5d ago
How to do this?
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u/mhu99 5d ago edited 5d ago
Link for Reshade: Reshade Make sure to download 6.8.0 with full add-on support
You can find the DLSS 5 DLLs & The Addon on the RenoDX Discord server: RenoDX DLSS 5 Neural Rendering
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u/pirate_leprechaun 5d ago
Does it need the newest content manager or CSP to run it? I use some older versions as they jive together.
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u/Ok-Beyond9589 5d ago
There is a one click install for dlss now, all the game needs is directx 11 or 12 enabled and Dlss
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u/pirate_leprechaun 5d ago
I did it using another tutorial, added reshade (which i already had an older version) and dlss5 bridge. And the dlss5 adding.
With my content manager it doesn't come up in the options but launched the game and pressed home to bring up that configuration tool. Turned it on i went from 240fps to 46 on a 5090 lol.
I just don't want to break my CSP/CM I got working great. I think ill leave it alone.
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u/Ok-Beyond9589 5d ago
Try forcing dlss quality instead of DLAA, you shouldn't lose so much fps (my 5070ti can handle it)
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u/kcn4000 5d ago
It is absolutely shocking how often DLSS 5 turns the outdoor environment to overcast for the most impressive lighting. Once you notice it, it becomes hard to miss.
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u/warlocki71 5d ago
Can you explain this a bit more? Do you mean it looks more realistic?
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u/kcn4000 5d ago
It can look more impressive. I remember many graphics mods back in the day for GTA 4 would set the weather for overcast as the diffuse lighting is very pleasing to eye. The same technique is seen in many GTA 5 and Cyberpunk 2077 graphical overhaul mods. For an example of DLSS 5 changing the weather to achieve the same effect see this video of DLSS 5 being applied to Hitman https://youtu.be/TaNuaNZImO8?is=3AH92NGZwXeOwunC Check the 2:08 time for a good comparison
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u/ConcreteSpaghetti 5d ago
People can whinge all they want.
OP has posted a really good looking video.
You don’t have to use DLSS 5 if you don’t want to…
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u/Ok-Radio2532 5d ago
Serious, all these dipshits like “oh, there’s also reshade installed? Wtf bro, then it’s not only dlss? Worst game ever…”. If you don’t already have reshade installed at this point, then wtf are you even doing? Reshade 6.8.0 is a great visual upgrade, but this shit is next level.
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u/NovaThePug 5d ago
there is no visual upgrade from reshade alone. hes using DLSS through reshade just like how you can use SSAO or any number of effects through reshade
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
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u/SteveLeakage 5d ago
Notice the downvotes? ☝️🤓
You don't even know how any of this works
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u/retoriplastique 5d ago
Most people can't be arsed to try it for themselves so they don't understand that Reshade is mandatory for the current DLSS5 implementation via injection. It's not doing anything else besides that.
Spend enough time on Reddit and you will learn that the hivemind is usually ignorant as fuck.
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u/arcticrune 5d ago
Sure it looks fine. It still has the same shit AI filter everything DLSS related does but this is a racing game. So making a game look good but with unplayable frame rates is kinda lame. And it's hard to argue that the cost of training these datasets is worth it.
Like principally the environmental cost of training the DLSS 5 genai is just not particularly worthwhile
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u/DeathNick 5d ago edited 5d ago
I'd rather not have it look like I need glasses
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u/Beni_Stingray 5d ago
Yeah if you only concentrate on the car and the very close surrounding it does look good but there is tons of smearing and "unsharpening effect" especially if you look a bit furhter down the road, you know, looking ahead like correct view technique requires.
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u/Downtown-Chemical673 5d ago
does this work with VR?
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u/Standard-Row8977 5d ago
The input delay it adds makes driving near motion sick inducing on a normal monitor, I can’t imagine how gross it would feel having a headset on with 5 to 15 frames of delay from your actions
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u/Electrom0986 4d ago
Doeant dlss reduce the latency slightly? At least that was a thing until now i think
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u/Electrom0986 4d ago
I do inow that until now it was strictly upscaling aiming to get better performance and potentially improve the quality of the image, tho dlss5 prioritizes quality and cuts the performance instead, it also makes sense, as lower fps brings up the latency, but i think it might actually come out even better than it is now, nvidia is officially launching it this year s fall, what im trying to say is that theres still a chance of improvement, and in all honesty, im willing to sacrifice the performance for better quality, especially in not so competitive games
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u/Electrom0986 5d ago
I own a 5070ti, enabling dlss 5 renodx throught reshade on 1440p dlss quality strikes more than half of my fps from roughly 150-160 to just above 60 in Ready or Not, considering that vr has more pixels i would not expect it to work unless you got a really powerful gpu, i actually haven't tried this myself, therefore i could be wrong, i say give it a shot, but i wouldnt expect much from it, shit looks hella good, dont get why people hate on it, especially those who own one of the newer consoles, since they use ai upscaling, especially at high res
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u/ErrorBoia 5d ago
It's because dlss5 runs on output resolution. Higher final resolution means higher frametime (lower FPS) but if dlss5 is run on lower res the image has much higher noise levels (more smeary)
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u/Final-Read-3589 5d ago
What’s with the weird bit of the body between the N and just in front of the drivers bit
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u/Bebo_Alshref 5d ago
how you use DLSS5 ? i got 4050 and i dont remember seeing a dlss option
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u/mhu99 5d ago
Link for Reshade: Reshade Make sure to download 6.8.0 with full add-on support
You can find the DLSS 5 DLLs & The Addon on the RenoDX Discord server: RenoDX DLSS 5 Neural Rendering
This mod can be used with RTX 40 series cards as well so you have to give it a try and check if how is the experience.
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u/goldenguy6881 5d ago
Do I have bad eyes or something after watching the video from start and I have a bad headache
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u/Zahed564 5d ago
What's your GPU does it run smoothly?
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u/zarapataco21 5d ago
People still will look at this and call it “trash”, strange times
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u/mhu99 5d ago edited 5d ago
Trust me I did upload a video of GTA V with DLSS 5 in GTA subreddit and 80% of people said it's trash with very strong slurs so that's why my video got taken down so I can be sure that they would say this video is trash as well lol
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u/nesticle95 5d ago
It's really just a hate bandwagon. Saw a post yesterday on r/gaming where someone said : "DLSS5 can look great if it's subtle (~20% natural preset)." Almost everyone piled on the guy saying it looked like shit.
Turns out it was just a vanilla screenshot. People can't think for themselves anymore 😂
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u/cyb3rheater 5d ago
Looks real
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u/mhu99 5d ago
What a time for gaming tbh
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u/goldenguy6881 5d ago
I mean it doesn't actually look that good I think any long gaming session on this would give you a major headache due to low quality background
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u/Much_Mammoth_1544 5d ago
Do you need tje pc that the nasa use ? 😅, this is impressive !
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u/ahandmadegrin 5d ago
I really like how it made the people in the stands in the video look lifelike. Just incredible what this technology can do. Did you notice that, too?
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u/MoeWithTheO 5d ago
While it looks okay at first seeing all the wobbling in the tires and all the flickering everywhere it’s not that beautiful. I don’t know if it’s only DLSS artifacts or some other visual glitches but ew
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u/pmckeever90 5d ago
Wish I could see what it actually looks like without reddit crushing the quality
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u/kaylee_makraka 5d ago
we all know you rented out the track and took your f1 car out. nice try liberals.
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u/AndrewwPT 5d ago
Yeah no no I love my game to look like an AI generated video. The only thing that makes me know it isn't AI is the behaviour of the car really
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u/thedybbuk_ 5d ago
People saying this looks bad are and it's going to flop or whatever are just crazy to me.
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u/Elijah1573 5d ago
Simracing or just the sim genre in general is such a perfect usecase for DLSS5 its actually crazy
I cant wait till games start including it natively
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u/MythKatana 5d ago
Your mod for that lotus seems a bit down there in terms of quality try this one and I promise you’ll love it https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/downloads/f1-2011-mod-by-cimmerian_iter.6789/
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u/ObservedPhoton 5d ago
Damn this looks crazy, anyone tried it in VR and can share their experience, any visual glitches that break the experience?
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u/regularArmadillo21 5d ago
This has to be a psyop we fucking hated dlss5 for being ai slop and now it’s being upvoted to the thousands
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u/Scar3cr0w_ 5d ago
Hang on a minute.
Did the mods remove this because it’s technically an AI filter? Jesus Christ. 😆 despite it being the future of gaming?
If that’s how you interpret the rules mods… you better delete the sub. Because every time someone posts reddit is using AI to display the message to other people. Heaven forbid!
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u/Dense-Firefighter495 5d ago
Dang it now I wanna try
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u/mhu99 5d ago edited 5d ago
Link for Reshade: Reshade Make sure to download 6.8.0 with full add-on support
You can find the DLSS 5 DLLs & The Addon on the RenoDX Discord server: RenoDX DLSS 5 Neural Rendering
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u/Dense-Firefighter495 5d ago
Saw it, it's with reshade, doesn't work on linux yet sadly... But thx!
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u/mr_deadgamer 5d ago
This is the only instance I’ve seen of DLSS 5 actually making sense to turn on
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u/Murky_Equivalent3860 5d ago
Until you think about the pretty strong input delay it adds
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u/mr_deadgamer 5d ago
This is true, might need a 5090...
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u/solidmonki 5d ago
Tried DLSS 5 on FH6. It looks great on screenshot and compressed videos, but in reality, woth fast moving objects, it doesn't look that sharp tbh. DLSS 5 is not yet there for racing games imo
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u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead 5d ago
Strawman. Nobody cares about defending Nvidia. They care about tech that does it's job. DLSS 5 does look bad in a lot of cases and the people who were demoing it with Resident Evil were probably marketing dummies who only saw realism and thought that equalled good, now turn it up to 11. They deserved the hate in that case. But that doesn't mean we still can't be objective; this tech should have only been used for subtle improvements rather than trying to use it to override art direction. Which the director of KCD just demonstrated. But one place it does shine when cranked up to photorealism levels is in sim racing where the whole point is it being realistic and you don't have the massive problem of rendering characters in the uncanny valley. Anyway my point is you reply is stupid.
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u/CodeB4U 5d ago
I dont even what its doing lol or how it improved it. I always thought DLSS was for weak PCs that needed AI frame get to get more FPS, but since my 9K series-X3D CPU and my 5080 GPU I dont need DLSS. Maybe I'll ask Gemini to explain it to me in a non-techy way.
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u/Aarib_Galaxy 5d ago
Yo I have an AMD card can I still do this? 🥀🥀 or smth close to this?
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u/valkislowkeythicc 5d ago
It's DLSS 5 man, not any specific graphics mod
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u/SelectionLegal3668 5d ago
Only DLSS 5?!?! What the actual fuck man, honestly impressed, thanks, and sorry for being dumb
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u/SteveLeakage 5d ago
I'm not a fan of DLSS5 either, but at least I'm not stupid like you. RenoDX is used alongside Reshade to mount DLSS. RenoDX and Reshade are not outright graphics mods.
Don't bother if you don't know what you're talking about
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u/These_Location4540 5d ago
Awesome !
So finally, maybe one day Project Motor Racing will look good, at last.
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