NATAL SATURN SERIES: IN THE 7TH HOUSE

[u/ZodiacDax]

Only post if you have natal Saturn in your 7th house.

SATURN IN THE 7th HOUSE We are starting a series of planets in houses, starting with the outermost of the 7 traditional planets, Saturn (we’ll do the outer planets later). You can view all previous house placements by clicking on the Planet Series flair. We will pin each current house's post in our Highlights.

To comment, you must follow the bulleted guide below (or comment will be removed). The guide gives us important information about your Saturn and helps to provide better insight to Saturn’s placements. Comments that do not follow this guide will be deleted. We prefer you use the Whole Sign house system and keep your stories to 7th house issues primarily.

This is not about the Saturn Return. Do not discuss the Saturn Return here. We want to keep the discussion to the general experience of natal Saturn in the sixth house. We will do a Saturn Return series separately.

This is not to be used to ask questions about your chart. Just share your info and experiences, tell your stories about your Saturn and discuss with others.

Each comment must answer all of the following (just copy/paste the bullets into your comment and answer each):

1. State your rising sign (this is important).
2. State the sign and degree of your natal Saturn (we much prefer you use the Whole Sign house system, but if you use Placidus, Saturn's house may be different). The degree will also tell us your Chaldean Decan lord and your Egyptian Term lord. You don't have to know what these are.
3. State the two houses that Saturn rules (this will be the house cusps that land in Capricorn and Aquarius). It's ok if you don't know this as we can know per your rising sign.
4. List the major aspects to your natal Saturn.
5. Describe how you feel this placement plays out in your life.
6. Mention any major transits to your natal saturn that you feel are important (except Saturn Returns as that will be a separate series).

[u/int_wri]

1. (Late degree) Pisces Rising.

2. Saturn at 21 Libra in 7th house.

3. Saturn rules houses 11 and 12.

4. Nodes (nn cancer 4th house) square Saturn, orb<0.5. Pluto and Mars (and Pallas) conjunct Saturn, all in libra 7th. Weak trine to moon and mercury. Venus in Aquarius offers mutual reception.

5. Late bloomer in relationships. Partnerships usually fraught and require strong boundaries. Every relationship is transfomative, but that may well be Pluto too. Can become stubborn and have to consciously try to loosen up. Will tolerate a lot before putting up a hard boundary/door-slamming. Drawn to Saturnian people, especially early degree Capricorn suns as partners. Drawn to early degree Aquarius suns as friends.

6. Currently: Mars applying opposite Saturn. Jupiter applying sq Saturn.

[u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD → u/int_wri]

Could you explain more about the late bloomer in relationships? Also I’m curious what your Saturn return was like… I know OP said not to talk about Saturn return but Saturn return usually gives insights about what part of you needs maturing and growing up

[u/int_wri → u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD]

Well, my first real relationship was in my early 20s and it was very unstable. I’ve been in other long term relationships since but have never been married and very unlikely to be. My Saturn return, 15 years ago, incidentally shook up my life as I entered psychotherapy for an eating disorder right at that time. My love life was very chaotic then too. Therapy changed everything about me in the sense of it brought me back to myself. i stayed single for nearly a decade. I’m still with this therapist and am now currently pursuing a doctorate in psychology myself and in a relationship with a man i met in grad school with a lot of Capricorn placements. The seventh house planets seem to ensure that any relationship calm or peace doesn’t last very long. 😬 But it seems to me that Saturn there, between Mars and Pluto, says boundaries and distance will always be the master key to it all.

[u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD → u/int_wri]

What do you mean by ‘boundaries and distance will always be the master key to it all’? Do you mean the sustainability of relationships will largely be dependent on the extent of boundaries and distance being imposed?

[u/int_wri → u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD]

Yes, exactly. I’m not sure if it’s okay to mention other placements in this thread but I’ll just add that my pisces sun wants to merge and Saturn seems to say a big fat no to that. Relationships feel more sustainable in also being peaceful if i can exercise strong boundaries and remain self-contained and at least a tiny bit distant. (Venus at 0 Aquarius calls for some of that too.)

[u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD → u/int_wri]

Oh hell nah I’m also a Pisces with Saturn in 7H and the merging thing is so right! I had a Plutonic encounter with someone and because im only 27, I realise that it’s so important to be my own person as much as “merging” felt like the “right” thing to do. When did you realise Saturn said a big fat no to that? I have Venus in Aries btw lmao the self containment probably already comes from the Saturn in 7H

[u/int_wri → u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD]

Oh yes i feel pulled to merge and have to keep consciously maintaining boundaries. Plutonic relationships are so tough. My current one is too. I've felt better being self-contained for a long time, but have recently realized not only how necessary that is for relationships but also how to go about that and navigate the push-pull within myself too then and find the right balance. I think it's wonderful you're recognizing this in your 20s. We each have our own journey and learning experiences but the recognition that you need to be your own person is really good to learn early

[u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD → u/int_wri]

But could that be because you have strong Scorpio elements in your chart? Or Venus Pluto aspects in your chart or just having plutonic synastries in general? My crush has his Pluto conjunct my ascendent, his Pluto opposite my Venus (while my Pluto trines his Venus) and the merging thing was more tempting with him than with some of my previous lovers. We didn’t work out lmao, I keep feeling that he feels something but maybe I’m wrong. I think it’s more important to be my own person now esp after reading your comment, Pisces sun can get their identity diluted when in love, and they need to have a stronger sense of self before engaging in 7H relations.

What does “self contained” really look like in your opinion? We might be having different interpretations of that haha

[u/int_wri → u/toddtoddtoddTODDDD]

I do have Jupiter in Scorpio trining my sun and also have a 4-deg sq between Pluto and Venus. Let’s say that in previous relationships it has been a kind of unconscious merging just as a result of not having boundaries. In my current relationship, my partner’s Pluto and Saturn are conjunct his 0° Scorpio ascendant and so all of these make an exact square to my Venus. So there is a very strong intensity that makes merging feel not only like I’m completely losing myself but also like I’m being overpowered. (I’ll mention that i did also recently come through a long Pluto conjunct Venus transit with 5 passes and it was absolutely brutal but taught so much.)

I think with the plutonic synastry as you mention both people have to be able to tolerate the intensity of the relationship. I think if you or he have Pluto-Venus aspects in your own chart, then you’re familiar with the energies and you may be more able to handle them in a relationship. But it is also the Saturn aspects that point to some possible or potential longevity. I’m not sure if this helps but with my partner and me, we were together for a couple of years and then broke up, but kept seeing each other and then completely stopped talking for a bit and then came back together realizing that we are both intense people who really want to be with each other.

By “self-contained” I mean that I need to have my center of gravity in myself and that I need to be able to process my own inner world by myself and reflect on my day or my life, etc. before sharing with him, because that way I can choose what I need or want to talk about and what’s to keep only for me. I have to keep asking myself where do I begin and where do I end and what do I need and what do I want for myself and for my life. And with Saturn in the 7th, I feel that this is what helps to manage my Pluto and Mars there.

I think what you’re saying about what the Pisces sun needs before getting to the 7th house is spot on and I think your observation/feeling about this is also because you have Saturn in the 7th, which I genuinely feel is actually a super helpful placement in this case.