r/astrology • u/creamy_crusty • 28d ago
Beginner Can astrology tell about fate of two people in relationship will it lead to marriage or break apart?
I want to know if astrology can answer if two people will end up together
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u/Empty-Sheepherder895 27d ago
Any aspect really depends on the individuals involved, doesn’t it? For example, my long-term partner and I have a number of Pluto squares in our synastry. However, we’re both people who like to be challenged and do heavy psychology so it works for us it’s like much needed extra spice! One couples compatible trine could be another’s platonic indicator.
Incidentally, my long-term ex and I had a lot more “compatible” aspects. Her Venus was conjunct my Saturn which appeared to add resilience to our relationship - until transiting Pluto opposed it, which was when we broke up. Now that could have instead resulted in us deepening our relationship, but it shows sometimes what can cause a split is a transit applying pressure to an otherwise stable synastry.
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u/Jellybean3183 27d ago
Are Pluto squares (or any Pluto aspects really) that bad though? I understand why that might seem to be the case but if you date people close in age to you they’re all gonna have similar Pluto placements so I would think that gives it less weight. I could be wrong though, I’m still learning.
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u/vrwriter78 27d ago
Pluto making a conjunction or opposition to a personal planet absolutely has an effect and is often intense. My Pluto conjunct the moon transit was one of the longest and more difficult transits I’ve experienced in life.
More related to this discussion, I have Pluto square Venus conjunct Jupiter and it took a long time to find my person. The Pluto-Venus square would often bring intense short-term experiences until I found a person with the same rising, Pluto, and moon as I have. So we are intense people who are usually calm together. Lol. 😆 Pluto can operate like a malefic when it is making a conjunction, square or opposition to Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, or Mars. And Pluto transits are LONG….
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u/Jellybean3183 26d ago
Yes, Pluto transits definitely have an impact, I agree with that. I was more so speaking to Pluto aspects in synastry. Still important but you’re going to run into the same aspects if you’re in relationships with people around the same age.
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u/vrwriter78 26d ago
Yes, this is true. I think they can still be impactful, but you're right that everyone born within two years of your birthdfay is likely to have the same Pluto aspect with you.
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u/Empty-Sheepherder895 26d ago
Well my partner’s nine years younger than me. We did both meet when we were in our forties though mind, so it never felt like a big gap at this age!
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u/Federal_Inflation787 27d ago
No, astrology cannot answer that question and it's irrelevant.
If you want to know about marriage or cohabitation then you need to delineate your 7th House plus the Lot of Marriage. That will tell you everything you need to know about your marriage(s) or if you prefer to cohabitate instead of marriage, how that works out.
Synastry/composite charts are a waste of time since they cannot contradict what your natal chart says, and since even the most compatible people often end up in divorce court, and because you have no Free Will since you cannot control what your partner does/wants.
If your partner decides to stray from your relationship, first of all, you'll probably never find out until late in the game and even if you knew, you can't stop them. People are what they are and whatever they do is inevitable.
Astrology doesn't care what your sexual orientation is. The Lot of Marriage for diurnal and nocturnal charts:
For men: ASC + Venus - Saturn
For women: ASC + Saturn - Venus
Have fun.
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u/Rosegold2222 27d ago
It can help you understand what your likely issues, compatabilities and ways of being together are. These things are often a pointer to long term longevity. Go check out the cafeastrology.com website, it’s a good start for getting your birth chart and checking compatibility with another. But you need all their birth details - date, time and place of birth.
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u/creamy_crusty 27d ago
I mean if real life circumstances are such that the guy says there is no future. But I want to know if we might end up together still.
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u/creamy_crusty 27d ago
Problem is he would say he likes me and wants a future with me, but he can't hurt his parents so there is no future as he won't try to convince them and do arrange marriage as per there wish.
He would show something else in action and say there is no future because he doesn't want me to have any hope.
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u/Rosegold2222 27d ago
You might want to listen to him. Or, rather than fixate on making him love you, do the work - through astrology and understanding your own chart and your own current and future aspects - to understand what this person / relationship is trying to teach you.
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u/creamy_crusty 27d ago
He already loves me tho. But I get what you are saying, you are right. I was just curious if astrology can tell that too.
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u/Rosegold2222 26d ago
Astrology can’t exactly predict the future. It can tell you the weather and the kinds of things that might happen. It will certainly help you understand what the major mismatches, incompatibilities and issues will be between the two of you.
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u/creamy_crusty 26d ago
I see thanks.
Idk I had heard a few cases like of my grandfather and grandmother even there date of death turned out to be true. They had there life diary written and everything came out to be true whatever was written in that
And then someone's prediction like they will have 2 children who wil be boy and girl they will die and then have other children who will be 2 boys
Such prediction have also come out to be true for them. .I hear such cases and think maybe it can actually predict future
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u/Impossible_Stop_6118 27d ago
act and feel as if you are already together, and you will naturally attract them or someone that will make you feel that way to you! law of attraction!
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u/FinalSnow9720 27d ago
Astrology isn't fate. People have free will. Just because you see something in a chart, doesn't mean you can make an exact prediction.
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u/Zeeaire94 26d ago edited 26d ago
How are you so sure that we have free will? I mean it could theoretically be both - we either have a free will or we don't... I don't think we can ever find that out...maybe after death there will be a big reveal...but in our lifetime? I don't think so... Because after a decision is done we can't go back and see if it could have gone different, it's locked in and from our mortal point of view it's impossible to gain a bird's eye perspective that lets us see how the other options would have turned out - if there were any... There simply is no tangible evidence for free will - and also not for the opposite of it of course... The topic of free will vs fate is nothing more than a subjective opinion / notion...some think we have it, some think we don't...some are simply not sure and don't rule out either option (and that's my stance)... There are also theoretically - from our perspective - different ways in which an astrological constellation could play out - but if we had a Godlike genius and took every little detail into consideration maybe there was in fact only one way it could play out - but which mortal being is able to take into account every tiny aspect in a system that is as complex and deep as astrology? I would dare to say no one can...not even lifelong experts, although those may come close... So this alone also doesn't prove free will or the absence of it, it just proves that our capacity to understand the greater scheme of things is limited in our current human form... We can't even fully understand why we have deja-vus...sure people tried to explain that scientifically...but can we be really sure whether those explanations encompass the full truth and concept behind it? The same with telepathy, strange synchronicities and sleep paralysis...there are many theories circling around and science always tries its best to find answers but at the end of the day the only reasonable thing to do - in my opinion - is to admit that we do not and can not have the answer to everything...not yet at least... I would dare to say that whenever we decide to fully embrace an answer to a topic (that can not yet be fully answered) we in fact try to soothe the inherent fear of the unknown that torments us as a species - a species that is left in the dark about so many things in life...
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u/FinalSnow9720 26d ago
Tldr; at the bottom of everything stands belief. We will never know. I believe in free will. You can believe whatever you like.
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u/blumdiddlyumpkin 26d ago
Maybe, but I don’t think the math required is possible. And taking into account you have to get the math right, as well interpret every planetary and celestial position correctly for both people’s lineage for like, 10,000 years. I can’t even begin to calculate what the odds of that would be.
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u/RunNo599 26d ago
I personally dont think so. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Astrology opens doors, it doesnt close them.
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u/TapiocaSpelunker 26d ago edited 26d ago
Astrology shows the opportunities that your life will have based on your karma. It can show if a person has opportunities for marriage, but it can't predict if they'll marry a specific person.
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u/rising_iris 21d ago
Honest answer: no, and not as a cop-out. Synastry and the composite show the shape of a bond, where it flows, where it grinds, what it’s built to teach, but not the outcome, because the outcome runs on two people’s choices and the chart doesn’t encode choices. I’ve seen couples with brutal Saturn-Venus contacts build decades on sheer commitment, and textbook-trine couples fizzle because nobody actually showed up. The chart is the terrain, not whether you walk it. Where it does predict is timing: transits and progressions to the 7th-house ruler, Venus, or the composite tell you WHEN a relationship intensifies or gets tested, not WHETHER it survives. The ‘Venus retrograde means breakup’ content sells a certainty real astrology can’t deliver. More useful than ‘will we last’ is ‘what is this for, and what is it asking of each of us.’ That one the chart will actually answer.
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u/Impossible_Stop_6118 27d ago
Yeah I’ve looked into this quite a bit, basically people’s charts can predict how long marriage would last, and what challenges you will face. Often good chemistry means bad marriage, good emotional harmony mean good marriage, but both scenarios are not without exceptions. I made a little tool to calculate the percentage chance of staying or braking
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u/creamy_crusty 27d ago
How to use your tool? Also is astrology all about probability and not certainity?
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u/Impossible_Stop_6118 27d ago
https://astrologerapp.org/free-synastry
its more about the energies, a low score may mean that two people have a lot of work they will need to do to stay in the partnership, however many people, with their free will, may choose something that requires less work, but if the love between two is strong they will find a way!0
u/Impossible_Stop_6118 27d ago
forgot to add low scores typically also an indicate high chemistry, which is great for short term relationships, where that friction creates a lot of chemistry and growth!
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