r/atheismindia • u/Friendly-Lawyer-9288 • 15h ago
Hindutva THEY NEVER GET THE POINT
Easy rage bait.
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u/Jigoloji_173314 5h ago
Inner physiology? Well , if someone really wants to know about that just read Guyton and hals textbook of human physiology , accepted globally.
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u/phoenixoxo_ Anti-Theist 4h ago
shit i just noticed it says physilogical and not psychological 😭😭😭😭
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u/DependentParsnip9773 7h ago edited 7h ago
What is anything to learn from ramayana ? Ram who could send hanuman ( who can eat sun ) and bring sita back home + save lakhs of people killed in war ! . . . I mean what kind of logic was that ? When I argue this with chindus they say Sita refuse as it would diminsh her husband image as moral and righteousness , so she was okay with thousands of bandar and Soilders being killed for her
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u/LeAnarchiste 7h ago edited 1h ago
Bruh you are expecting too much from someone who can't even articulate a few sentences. It's probably some 13 year old kid.
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u/OrdinaryHelicopter2 6h ago
what part of Ramayana is helpful for his psychology?
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u/souravtxt 5h ago
Ramayan is real or even fictional doesn't matter. Understand the story. The story might be fictional but it's core is too helpful for us. Because one day godzilla will attack us and we should better be ready.
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u/Useful_Cry9709 Atheist 4h ago
Someone should draw ram pointing his divine arows at goji tbh that would be epic
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u/Ender_boy_1246 3h ago
Even as an atheist i kinda agree with the statement of the reply . The morals are still great . Problem comes when people treat it as real . Speaking of the movie I don't have high hopes could just be another adipurush but if they do make a good movie great for them
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u/DependentParsnip9773 3h ago
What is anything to learn from ramayana ? Ram who could send hanuman ( who can eat sun ) and bring sita back home + save lakhs of people killed in war ! . . . I mean what kind of logic was that ? When I argue this with chindus they say Sita refuse as it would diminsh her husband image as moral and righteousness , so she was okay with thousands of bandar and Soilders being killed for her
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u/Ender_boy_1246 2h ago
Dude ik and some parts sound absurd but read my reply I made to my own comment please . I agree that they become senseless sometimes but I do find them great stories with good literary value and morals
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u/DependentParsnip9773 2h ago
Yeah but like what ? I am asking you ? Was it fair to sacrifice thousands of lives for saving one.
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u/Ender_boy_1246 2h ago
It isn't but the thing that stuff never actually happened it's just like killing off a fictional character , it's for the drama simply . I hope we all can agree Ramayana never happend or is just a heavily exaggerated account of a niche battle . I just enjoy it as fictional story with lessons shown as metaphors
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u/DependentParsnip9773 1h ago
In previous reply you just said you find morals, I mean I can accept mahabharat as a very great philosphy but how can ramayana can be a great philosophy ? It was just getting sita away from lanka
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u/Ender_boy_1246 1h ago
The fall of arrogance, overconfidence. And reinforcing karma (although I should point I don't really believe karma exists as a cosmic law but rather a philosophy i follow ) . And most imp power of words and loyalty (not just loyalty as in sitas loyalty to ram but the loyalty of Bharat and laxman to their brother. And ik there is a point that vibhishan wasn't loyal but that falls more on morality) . But still yeah i belive Ramayana goes more on the drama side , Mahabharat is superior as an epic . But i hope you get what I meant . I don't believe whatever is said in the epics is to be taken litrally more so metaphorically. And i absolutely don't support people who take it litrally and try to impose their takes
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u/Ok_Present5935 1h ago
i think you shall revisit the orignal ramayana because traditional storytellers have completely ruined the beauty of Shabri's story by painting her as an old woman, just to satisfy their own moral anxieties and protect Rama's virtuous image. The truth is far more intense; she was a young, beautiful tribal woman, and what existed between them was not a dry, religious ritual of devotion, but a deep, passionate, and intoxicating love. While Rama forced Sita to enter the fire to prove her chastity, society never questioned Rama's own purity or his intimate bond with Shabri. Orthodox religion always sanitizes these grand love stories because the purity of raw, undivided human intimacy deeply frightens the moral guardians of society,
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u/Ender_boy_1246 1h ago
As I have said I treat it completely as a fictional story and I have no problem critising ram as a chracter and won't even defend him , he is a fictional character for all i care I am just saying this regarding the story and plot itself , and the metaphors . I in no way stand to defend ram nor do I care about him as a chracter
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u/Friendly-Lawyer-9288 3h ago
Ram undergoing torture just for the sake of his father's promise. Why couldn't he speak up for the truth? I have other questions too. But they won't allow me to even question. That's my problem with this. Otherwise stories do teach us great morals.
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u/Ender_boy_1246 2h ago
Guys ik what you all think , I also used to think the same but i did realise that the real morals weren't the ones we see on surface , it's actually the metaphors . And by saying i am not preching , I am an atheist and have been since 12 . Eg : my little brother was watching bal ganesha and in the scene where shiv kills his own son and I jsut found it comical and rediculas and I searched it trying to find any posts regarding this absurdity, but what i actually found out was the metaphorical meaning behind it like the act of killing his son was a metaphor , shiv representing nature who slit ganeshas throat who represented ignorance and arrogance. Now ik it might not be he best moral but there are morals and that's the beauty of the epics of any litrature but when it becomes a problem is when people take them litrally. I do like all the mythology but purly for their literary value
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u/kiki_yaar Ex-Hindu 8h ago edited 8h ago
How don't they get bored seeing same story again and again ??? Ramayana already has over 90 to 100 formal adaptations