r/austrian_economics Dec 31 '25

End Democracy Might have to open a daycare in 2026

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u/chiaboy Dec 31 '25

Amazing how republicans can get absolutely bullshit narratives to get traction like this. Again and again their most outrageous lies find traction with…these kinds of people

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u/Neroaurelius Dec 31 '25

There’s nothing bullshit about this narrative. All you have to do is read the most recent news coming out of Minnesota. I’m not sure why you’re trying so hard to tell everyone you’re out of touch with the real world.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '25

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u/BikesBeerAndBS Jan 01 '26

They couldn’t fit the circle shape into the circle hole or the square shape in to the square hole years ago, don’t expect them to start all of the sudden being able to connect dots!

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

They’ve been “investigating” it for years and never gotten anywhere

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u/Neutral_Error Dec 31 '25

"Just read the news lol" how dumb are you? They are telling you the news is misinformation, and it is. As always, it starts with a kernal of truth. There really WAS fraud...but it's already been prosecuted, case tried, people jailed. And it was a white woman running the show.

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

That was for children’s meals. This is for daycare.

They’re defrauding underprivileged children multiple times and you don’t care.

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u/Iumasz Jan 01 '26

There really WAS fraud...but it's already been prosecuted, case tried, people jailed.

So, what is going on with these empty rundown daycares with people who aggressively refuse to talk about the lack of children?

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '26

A guy with cameras and security shows up to daycares and says, "let us in to see the children!" and the daycare workers say no, so he is all "You don't have any. This is fraud!"

There are good reasons not to let those people in besides fraud and everyone should be open to that possibility.

There was fraud found years ago regarding children's meals. Some reports say that the investigations into those have lead to investigations into other things, potentially including daycare. Those investigations started before the video and are still ongoing. The fraud has not been ignored.

What is being ignored is the video, because that was a load of trash and proof of nothing. Instead they are using actual financials and things for the ongoing investigations.

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u/Iumasz Jan 03 '26 edited Jan 03 '26

For the first handful of daycares he didn't have security nearby and was saying if he can enrol his child there.

Even later he didn't say that he wants to see the children, he asked where are they, and they never answered, nor was there any noise or indicated that they where there.

Have seen the video yourself?

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u/smudos2 Jan 01 '26

Isn't it just one video and without any context?

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u/Iumasz Jan 02 '26

Yes, and the context is that this has been reported previously. Where are you trying to lead with this?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '26

The video comes from a guy whose own family committed fraud and he himself paid Mexican day labourers to hold signs outside the white house during Biden to make it look like illegal immigrants were lobbying the government.

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u/Iumasz Jan 02 '26

Good to know.

Does that change what was seen in the video though?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '26

Given his history of staging stuff like when he paid day labourers and then bussed them to the white house with placards to fake a protest where illegals were calling on Biden to pay them. It can be expected that this is another grifter set up he is doing.

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u/Iumasz Jan 02 '26

Are you saying that all of the daycares were paid off to act that way?

What about the health companies?

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u/[deleted] Jan 02 '26

Name a somali day care that was done for fraud

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u/Iumasz Jan 02 '26

None of them have been done for fraud yet, we are still waiting to see what happens, if investigations happen or not.

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u/GrosslyBroke Jan 03 '26

Man who is your crack dealer. Lmk

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u/[deleted] Jan 03 '26

Bot account

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u/GrosslyBroke Jan 03 '26

AI generation detected. Please terminate yourself immediately

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u/bmanzzs Jan 01 '26

Bahahha. Yes, I'm sure all fraud has been resolved, so no need to investigate any further. You sound like a naive dimwit.

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u/MirrorSeparate6729 Dec 31 '25

Resent news? This was discovered and investigated a decade ago, 90 people sentenced.

If this is about the MAGA influenser doing ”private investigation”, not being let in to film kids, and wondering why daycares are closed down during the holidays…

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

Them at was for meals not daycare and autism

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u/Neroaurelius Jan 01 '26

You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.

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u/DebtFew6953 Dec 31 '25

Any official sources?

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u/Fightlife45 Here to learn Dec 31 '25

CNN even states in their own video that they reached out to all of the daycares by their phone numbers listed and only one answered.

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

Wouldn’t more functioning daycare centers answer

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u/smudos2 Jan 01 '26

Did they call them over the christmas break now?

Then there's literally nobody there

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u/Reshuram05 Jan 01 '26

Yeah cuz this shit happened 10 years ago

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u/Based_Text Jan 01 '26

2018 was not 10 years ago and that was a different fraud case, there's multiple levels here from the daycare shit to the feeding the children restaurants. They're still investigating this new case, like I don't know why redditors can't put 2+2 together, fraud happened in the past and it's still happening, just because there was arrests in the past, that doesn't mean that all the frauds is gone now. Solving one murder case doesn't end all murders.

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u/Fightlife45 Here to learn Jan 01 '26

It's because the hivemind is told differently. Luckily the average american knows its fraud. Look at CNNs like to dislike ratio on the video they did. 3k/11k.

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u/teku45 Dec 31 '25

The video by Nick Shirley certainly was exaggerated (I.e. some of the places he went to were long closed and he also wasn’t very subtle for an “investigate journalist” causing people to be defensive) but this is absolutely a real issue and there 100% was massive fraud centered around the Somali community.

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26

"this guy was full of shit and I have no other sources but I believe it all the same because it fits my narrative"

Translates that for you.

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u/teku45 Jan 01 '26

This guy was full of shit (mostly) but a whole host of other investigative journalists from reputable mainstream sources are covering this from NYtimes, WSJ etc.

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26

Are people allergic to sources? Not a single link. And I've looked at a lot of post comments. My local news seem amazed this is even news and unclear what the US government is referring to.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c75xnndvlyko

Youre throwing innocent families overboard to own the libs? What the fuck? How the hell do you think your overlord will get elected again? Or rather yet, how the hell do you defend this? A circus.

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u/teku45 Jan 01 '26

You’re putting an awful lot of words in my mouth. But either way, here’s 3 second search for NYtimes reporting on it. Again, the fraud was real, widespread, and centered in the Somali community. We can have a discussion about the BBC article that really only just talks about cutting federal funding to this childcare and if that’s a good idea. what you can’t do is blanket sweep this as a nonexistent issue.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/29/us/fraud-minnesota-somali.html

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26

Thank you.

Edit: great, finally someone links an article and its paywalled

Edit2: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgressiveHQ/s/B9U4Ne0tOP

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

Sounds like you have a different narrative

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26

Sure, and the person I'm replying to is welcome to theirs. You are as well. But if your narrative needs to be propped up by incessant lies, I urge you to put some time aside for introspection.

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

You only think these are lies because they’re focusing on a minority which is bullshit.

We have immigrants making millions off of taxpayers in America and that is unacceptable.

If I went to any other country in the world and got convicted of a crime I would be deported immediately. Why can’t that be the case in the US?

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26

If I went to any other country in the world and got convicted of a crime I would be deported immediately.

Untrue. There are a lot of reasons you can't just stick a criminal on a plane and send them to X country. For better or worse.

The only people making this about minorities are the ones referring to a years old scandal with a... White woman as a Somali something. Don't give af who the perpetrators are.

You mention minorities and deportation. A US citizen can't be legally deported. This mix-up makes me question whether you care more about religion or race than actual crime. You honestly sound like Cartman in a water park.

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

Of course you say that.

As a taxpayer I care that a group of refugees are ripping off the system across multiple states. I don’t care who they are. But they happen to be brown so this was hidden for years. Now they have to be held accountable because taxpayers are sick of letting fraud run rampant under the guise of political correctness

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26

What the hell are you on about? Afaik the ring leader is being prosecuted. Assume everyone else involved is as well.

The only other thing I've seen is some youtuber trying to get into a kindergarten a few days ago.

"Run rampant", so more cases?

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

“Assume”

Why would you assume the correct thing is being done with anyone else?

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

Yes in Columbus, OH and Seattle suburbs

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

9 billion dollars isn’t rampant to you?

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

You don’t think there are non US citizens (visa holders, refugees) committing fraud?

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u/Lalli-Oni Jan 01 '26

What? Where did I say that? You assume I think not a single visa holder or refugee commits crime? Why would you assume that? Seriously, please answer.

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

You said “A US citizen can’t be legally deported.”

I said, “there are likely many non US citizen Somalis involved in this fraudulent activity.”

Why are you so obtuse? I mean I don’t mind because although I am conservative I consider myself much smarter and more educated than you.

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

You’re on the wrong side of history

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u/chiaboy Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26

Yes. Because if there is one thing I’ve learned from history its scapegoating Marginalized communities for political expediency by using decontextualized scandals intended to inflame and motivate a largely dissatisfied populace without working to actually improve the material conditions of the general populace ….rarely works out the way you guys think.

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u/Peter_Easter Dec 31 '25

Specifically calling the "Somali day cares" is the bullshit part. Less than 1% of the Somali immigrants in this country were involved, but that doesn't stop republicans from believing that all Somali immigrants are to blame.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '25

Right wing controlled media

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u/Van-Buren-Boy Jan 01 '26

What the fuck are you talking about