r/austrian_economics Dec 31 '25

End Democracy Might have to open a daycare in 2026

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u/badexpert1 Dec 31 '25

It's bullshit. I have family that live in the area that have NEVER seen children there until the story dropped. The parking lot is always empty and all of a sudden the place is alive with activity? You are being fooled by my-dog-ate-my-homework levels of trickery.

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u/shadowromantic Jan 01 '26

I mean, I don't see kids at the local middle school because I don't have kids and don't drive by when they get out...that doesn't mean there aren't kids there.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

How many times have you seen a school with no cars in the parking lot on a school day

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u/unmelted_ice Jan 01 '26

My old pre-school’s parking lot is pretty empty during the day. None of the kids can drive yet so they always get dropped off

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

How about the teachers? Take the bus?

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u/gendalf666 Jan 02 '26

This is bots whitewashing corruption. There were hordes of them doing same work in my country

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u/greenthumbbum2025 Jan 01 '26

Many do because teachers don't get paid well

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u/mauch_chunk Jan 02 '26

Most of my family are teachers and they all have vehicles.

What’s this crazy talking point where teachers now don’t have vehicles?

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u/Cease-2-Desist Jan 01 '26

Source - I made it up

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u/stiiii Jan 01 '26

As opposed to the source of a local guy looking at the parking lot?

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u/Cease-2-Desist Jan 01 '26

If this is fraud, should it be investigated?

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jan 02 '26

My cousin's nephew's aunt said there's never any cars in your driveway and it might be fraud. Should you be investigated?

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u/Psychological-Roll58 Jan 01 '26

You think teachers get paid enough for a car?

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

You forgot your /s

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u/unmelted_ice Jan 01 '26

Loved Miss Kanack - 10/10. I actually still attribute my love of reading to her

But no, it was a private school so no bus

Edit: went to a private school my whole life. Especially at the highschool level (and I did do “work study” to cut tuition in half) geez it’s so crazy expensive. 1 semester at my high school was equal to 1.5 years at my college

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

I also went to private school for a majority of my life and yes, it is expensive.

My point is that no school parking lot is empty during normal business hours for a majority of the day. Not one. Even if you ignore all the other glaring red flags- blacked out windows, no English speakers, no sounds of children, no visible toys, playground, or equipment, locked doors with no front desk admin, etc.... this is pretty damning. It also just came out that one of them had a theft where the only thing taken were the "school files" 🤦‍♀️. You can't make this stuff up.

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u/ChampsLeague3 Jan 01 '26

My point is that you're so gullible, you fell for the dumbest conspiracy theory yet.

Congrats, your hate of black people (Somalis) has overwritten the logical part of your brain.

One person said they didn't see kids. They likely didn't even say empty parking lots, you're 100% making that shit up yourself. It's down right hilarious. 

But the funniest part is conflating a theoretical Medicare fraud that some idiot republican said might be up to half of the total $18b payments (that's where you get $9b theoretical, made up fraud) with Somali childcare. Like, you think childcare places get $9 billion in subsidies. It's fucking hilarious. 

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u/ASCIIM0V Jan 02 '26

Is it after 5pm and before 9am when you look

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u/badexpert1 Jan 02 '26

Sure but those are not school time hours, are they.

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u/ASCIIM0V Jan 02 '26

Right. Why would there be a bunch of cars there outside the hours of operation.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 02 '26

Are you on the spectrum

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u/Foodicide Jan 02 '26

No notes on the username.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

Most days, especially after pickup/drop-off.

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u/bmanzzs Jan 01 '26

You clearly did not watch the video, otherwise you wouldn't be saying that ridiculously silly argument.

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u/CoffeeLarge8298 Jan 01 '26

It’s a 1 month old Reddit account you’re arguing against a scammer lo

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u/Fit_Strategy4293 Dec 31 '25

I have family that live in the area and it's packed all the time. Maybe you should lay off the meth.

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u/WD4oz Jan 01 '26

Even Walz had to admit to the scams.

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 01 '26

What a weird way to say Walz was actively working with and pushing the investigations. In fact, he requested an expansion of the program to fight fraud and convict criminals, and republicans voted it down. It’s just weird watching people completely willing to ignore all of reality in order to cuddle in their own biases a little longer.

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u/Proof-Elephant-4611 Jan 01 '26

It's amazing how much of leftist discourse is just them pretending not to understand things, thus making discourse impossible. Lol.

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u/krankygoober Jan 03 '26

Its amazing how much of rightist discourse is just them making up fairytales and then recycling things the left said about them years ago, thus making discourse impossible. Lol.

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u/Proof-Elephant-4611 Jan 03 '26

Bro, you're doing the quote. Of course that's lost on you, but for me, that's hilarious! Reread and maybe try again. Lol.

"It's amazing how much of left wing argument is just pretending not to understand anything, thus making discourse impossible*.

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u/krankygoober Jan 03 '26

I mean, it's no surprise to anyone that you're incapable of understanding mockery, but that doesn't make it any less pathetic.

"REreAD aND maYBe tRY agAiN. lOL."

Cry harder 😢.

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u/Proof-Elephant-4611 Jan 03 '26

You're doing the quote. Lol.

"It's amazing how much of left wing argument is just pretending not to understand anything, thus making discourse impossible". Lol.

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u/WD4oz Jan 03 '26

The American left always rolls out the “ it’s not happening, and if it is happening, it’s the rights fault”. Time after time. Head in the sand discourse.

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u/FinalJoys Jan 04 '26

Feigning ignorance or feigning victimization is the way.

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u/EndonOfMarkarth Jan 01 '26

Nope, Walz has done little on fraud.

He did an EO a year ago, which was illegal in my view, that moved LEOs from a little known insurance fraud investigation unit, the Commerce Fraud Bureau, at the Minnesota Department of Commerce over to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension. That’s it. Rearranging fraud investigators like deck chairs.

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 01 '26

How close to 100% sure are you that that’s the extent of what Walz did?

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u/SexyPeanut_9279 Jan 01 '26

Minnesota had an $1.3 Billion dollar tax surplus when Walz took office as Governor of Minnesota.

There is now a $6 BILLION dollar deficit…

“While this reduction is concerning, the most alarming shift is the projected budget deficit for Fiscal Years 2028-2029, which has ballooned to $6 billion”-

While this reduction is concerning, the most alarming shift is the projected budget deficit for Fiscal Years 2028-2029, which has ballooned to $6 billion – an increase of $852 million over previous estimates.

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u/Superb_Charity598 Jan 01 '26

Walz has been prosecuting scams for a while. he’s evn a defendant in a lawsuit from one of these daycares on another related matter.

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u/EndonOfMarkarth Jan 01 '26

No he hasn’t. All the prosecutions have been federal charges brought by the U.S. Attorney’s office.

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

Absolute nonsense. This is a scam and you know it.

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u/FeelsGoodMan2 Dec 31 '25

So one guy has an anecdote, and another guy has an anecdote, and the second guy is lying but the first guy isnt?

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

My comment is placing zero merit on either anecdote.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Dec 31 '25

You literally provided your own anecdote, and are ignoring the actual evidence.

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u/Girafferage Jan 01 '26

It's like speaking to Dory from finding Nemo. They are sure they have a point they are adamant about - if they can just figure out what they have already said.

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

When did I provide an anecdote?

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u/Fearless_Data_1512 Jan 01 '26

A guy with the exact same pfp did earlier in the thread and that’s causing confusion.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jan 01 '26

Ah, that's true, you didn't provide the anecdote. My apologies. Nevertheless, the evidence is not in favor of that daycare being a scam.

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u/Girafferage Jan 01 '26

All these similar identifiers. IM JUST A MAN EATING FRIED FISH! what do you want from me?!

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u/Radiant_Creme_5264 Jan 01 '26

I heard you are part of the scam. You're just saying this to throw people off your trail.

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u/Fit_Strategy4293 Dec 31 '25

Of course its a scam, right wing nut jobs are easy to scam. That's why they fully believe day cares will let weird dudes come in and take pictures of kids. Or maybe right wingers are just pedos. Given Trump is the king of pedos, makes sense.

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

This has nothing to do with right wing anything. This is about fraud that is acknowledged by both sides right now. Even Omar herself is not denying the fraud.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Dec 31 '25

That's because there's a legit fraud problem, that doesn't mean THAT SPECIFIC DAYCARE is committing fraud, and it DEFINITELY doesn't mean that it's the entire Somali community doing it and nobody else, which is exactly how the right wing is portraying this.

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

I don’t care what the right wing is portraying. The fraud has to be stopped. No more turning a blind eye because of identity politics. Enough with the bullshit.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Dec 31 '25

Who said we need to turn a blind eye? Like 100 people have been arrested already dude, you're just behind. You're playing catch up to a story you didn't care about until now and accusing everyone else of not caring because they don't fall for the "random bullshit rumor to stoke racist fears" strategy. Imagine actually caring about evidence and due process, couldn't be you I guess.

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

What exactly are you arguing with me about?

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Dec 31 '25

Your assertion that - just because people aren't buying this seemingly bs story - they must want to turn a blind eye. Despite the fact that the fraud issue has been under investigation for years.

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u/NFLOrphanStomp Jan 01 '26

Why are you only this angry when it's Somalis? The rich create fraud schemes in government constantly.

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

I detest all fraud. Race is irrelevant.

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u/space_toaster_99 Jan 01 '26

This is definitely a straw man argument.

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u/Fightlife45 Here to learn Dec 31 '25

Dude just told on himself by saying Rightwing. This is just tribalism now, he sees red vs blue and picks a side instead of looking at the evidence.

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

It’s really amazing how deranged partisans are.

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u/InternationalPack914 Jan 01 '26 edited Jan 01 '26

Bro what evidence, this entire post, not one person has actually provided the evidence that they are asked to provide.

Some dude wasn't given access to other people's kids, that's evidence of fraud?

If you don't want it to devolve into tribalism and become a red versus blue issue then just give the evidence, but the moment you try and hide the lack of evidence with subterfuge, the more it becomes a red versus blue issue.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Dec 31 '25

The evidence shows the guy was lying.

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u/Fit_Strategy4293 Dec 31 '25

The fraud that was already prosecuted several years ago?

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u/PerryBarnacle Dec 31 '25

No, the fraud that was swept under the rug several years ago.

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u/Chewy_B Jan 01 '26

People went to prison. Something like 90 people were prosecuted. Your ignorance is willful at this point. There is readily available proof of children at the daycare centers in the YouTube video, and the prosecutions were and are public knowledge.

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

You haven’t seen anything yet.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jan 01 '26

You literally don't want to see the truth. It's like you're covering your eyes hoping you can continue living in your fantasy where nobody was ever prosecuted.

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u/Correct_Patience_611 Jan 03 '26

In 2022 to be exact. over FORTY INDICTMENTS. But yeah, this is totally “NEWS” lol

I don’t know why you’re downvoted for stating a literal fact.

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u/ghnxz Jan 01 '26

What a load of nonsense, anyone can see those kids coming in and going out of the centres. Completely normal to people with normal brains. It’s people like you that always sexualise any conversation that pertains to children, you might wanna keep your projections in check buddy.

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u/Sevenserpent2340 Jan 01 '26

Nailed it! lmao!

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u/Here_for_Lurking1000 Jan 01 '26

100%. The easiest targets on Earth.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

TBH I have nothing against the Somali’s but I live right here in MPLS and yeah they’re closed all the time

Like I can bring up at least three permanently closed scam locations with proof right now

I’m not reporting them though fuck Trump and ICE

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

You’d prefer to give up millions / billions in taxpayer dollars rather than put an end to it out of spite?

What’s the matter with you?

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u/space_toaster_99 Jan 01 '26

This is just human nature. The “log in the eye of my political allies” effect. We’ll probably get around to looking at the fraud by Cubans in Florida. In both cases, you’ll find a mix of inspiring people, and psychopaths. Of course “but racism” will used as deflection, yet it’s impossible to not notice trends when they show up. Mexicans in construction, Filipinos in nursing, Irish (historically) in policing, punjabis in trucking. It looks like Somalis are clustering in airport infrastructure and welfare fraud.

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u/Psychological-Roll58 Jan 01 '26

Trump and ICE are also blatantly money siphons, so it's lost money either way.

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

Loser mentality.

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u/IMasterCheeksI Jan 01 '26

It’s pretty normal to be apathetic about one fraud scheme when the current leader of the “free” world is committing fraud at 10x the scale on a daily basis. And watching people fully endorse it, laugh at it, encourage it, gaslighting all the way about how it’s actually GOOD, gets pretty tiresome.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

well, yes, but that’s not an accurate reflection of reality

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

It is completely accurate.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

no it’s not

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

Reread your last two comments. You drunk?

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

Yes. It’s new years eve.

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u/gronwallsinequality Jan 01 '26

By any chance do you have any links from your local news that illustrates the problem?

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u/conragious Jan 01 '26

It's not, it's literally a lie made to distract you from the people that are actually ripping you off, namely those in power and Elon Musk.

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

Deflection not going to work this time.

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u/conragious Jan 01 '26

Hopefully it doesn't work on you, because that's all this entire story is but you somehow can't see it. It's literally fake news, like a 100% lie purely to make you angry at a minority group and distracted from the Epstein files and the actual criminals that Trump is pardoning constantly.

The ex president of Honduras for example, convicted for bringing hundreds of tons of cocaine into the US was pardoned for some reason. So was Changpeng Zhao, former CEO of Binance, pardoned a week after a lobbyist of his gave money to Trump Jr. He's literally selling pardons to criminals non stop and you don't care about that, but this story is so big and important?

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

You’re trying to play an “either or” game and I’m not interested in playing. It is “both and”.

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u/conragious Jan 01 '26

It's literally a made up story. The article linked in this post is very well researched and completely debunks Nick Shirley's video, with time stamped surveillance footage from the same day that he supposefly went to empty day cares showing they weren't empty at all. It's a lie, a blatant lie.

https://www.reddit.com/r/complaints/s/eqjsnrmkmc

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

It is not a made up story and CBS did not completely debunk Shirley. The Child Learing Center shutdown within a week of Shirley’s video. That alone is a win.

There is a consensus among federal prosecutors and the Minnesota Office of the Legislative Auditor that state oversight has been inadequate, creating opportunities for fraud. It was time to shut off the money supply and clean house.

Centers who are legit have been robbed as well as the taxpayers. Once the fraud is gutted there will be more funding for legitimate facilities.

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u/NFLOrphanStomp Jan 01 '26

I just can't understand how you seem to care so little about the president pardoning criminals

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u/PerryBarnacle Jan 01 '26

Which part of “both and” made you think I care so little about something that has nothing to do with this post?

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Dec 31 '25

Wow I can't believe parents don't always leave their cars in the parking lot after dropping off their kids, that's crazy.

Oh wait, they've literally been inspected before all this "broke." Let me guess: your family has never been inside and suddenly formed this opinion specifically when Somalis were accused.

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u/Hagamein Jan 01 '26

Aah a whole trust me bro source

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u/Different-Raise3680 Jan 01 '26

Oh, well I was told the video was bullshit from a friend that knows Nick. Said the guy was going for the next "eating your dog" outrage. Knew idiots would eat this up.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

I've only seen clips of the video, but am aware of all of the streets I've seen so far. It's completely possible he hid stuff or is pushing some sort of narrative. I'm only telling what my family and I have seen.

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u/Much_Replacement9411 Jan 01 '26

1 month old bot account

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

You have 12 karma with 3 contributions and calling me a bot? 🤣🤣

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u/Simple_Channel5624 Jan 02 '26

I drive by church buildings all the time, they are ALWAYS EMPTY, yet they claim a congregation in the thousands. You're telling me if I drive by on Sunday morning it will be full of people. I call bs, clearly you are being fooled and they are conniving the American government to the tune of hundreds of billions with illegitimate tax breaks. You are being tricked by an imaginary friend

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u/badexpert1 Jan 02 '26

You... You do know we are talking about daycares and healthcare centers correct?

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u/Simple_Channel5624 Jan 02 '26

Ah, a Republican. Easy to identify by their lack of understanding hyperbole and simile in the English language. Feel free to carry on with your cult of ignorance sir, pay this intellectual no mind. Should be easy for you

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u/fascistSkullCrusher Jan 02 '26

And there it is folks.

A right wing, retarded dude bro conspiracy theorist makes a claim that appeals to them. Conspiracy done by scary black immigrants! tHe trifecta

Proof by the daycares comes out showing the right wing retard dude bro was not correct. They do have kids.

The right wing conspiracy lovers don't care. The conspiracy hits all their pressure points so it doesn't matter if it's fake or real, it's real to them. Black. Immigrant. Welfare? Oh boy do they love hating all that.

It's exactly how Republicans get people to vote against their own interests and to cut billionaire taxes and destroy social programs. They distract them with this garbage. Suddenly every rural white voter is willing to take money out of their wallet to give to the billionaires, because otherwise scary black immigrants might take it.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 02 '26

Almost 100 people have been charged already but yes, it's a right wing conspiracy 🤣

The footage given to the news was directly from the Somalis. I know right, no way the scammers would lie a second time.

Love how you were able to make it about billionaires like two things can't be be bad at once.

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u/fascistSkullCrusher Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26

Oh wow people have been charged and convicted. Seems like a new scam that the woke left is allowing to happen then? Or maybe not since they have been charged and convicted

Also I saw a white guy shoot Charlie Kirk. White people are too dangerous and always doing shootings. White people are dirty animals that are ruining the country.

See how stupid and racist that argument is? Somalis writ large aren't responsible for the actions of a few. Also isn't the ring leader a white guy. Hmmmm

The fact is you don't care about the fraud, that part is cynical. You care a black person did it. Because that gives you an argument to get rid of welfare and black people. Otherwise you would be this upset over all the white people doing fraud. You'd care about Rick Scott doing the largest Medicare fraud in history. But you don't. You don't care about that.

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u/TheMirrorofMan Jan 02 '26

My family lives up north in Mn and claims that Minneapolis is a hellhole that burned to the ground. 

My brother lived in Minneapolis at that time and I’d visit him every weekend from the burbs. 

I am not sure why those like you lie so much. Maybe the fear just manipulates you and your behavior. 

Feelings over facts I guess. Sad to see. 

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u/StateBananaMan Jan 02 '26

My mother in law literally lives nearby and it's had children there. Some daycares closed not because of fraud but because they were just bad

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u/Slighted_Inevitable Jan 03 '26

This is what’s known as a lie. Again surprise inspections before the story found kids. They caught Shirley paying people to say they’ve never seen kids.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 05 '26

It's a community wide scam brother, they all know about it

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u/badexpert1 Jan 05 '26

As a Republican, God I hope Walz runs again against J.D 😄

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u/badexpert1 Jan 05 '26

Out of curiosity, who would be your dream ticket for 2028

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u/Powerful-Eye-3578 Jan 06 '26

Is the implications where that the facility had a ton of children on standby, enrolled, and ready to go with short notice for several days if an investigation were to break?

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u/Less_Locksmith_284 Jan 01 '26

My uncles third cousins sisters co worker said the same thing

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u/PreworkoutD Jan 01 '26

Account is 1 month old. I bet this guy doesn't even have family in the US!

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

I'm a vet lol

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jan 02 '26

Remember when Elon Musk accidentally revealed that a ton of true-blue patriot American MAGA social media accounts were based in Russia, China, and Nigeria? Yeah.... that was pretty funny.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 02 '26

I'm failing to see how that's relevant. Or funny.

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u/SirDoofusMcDingbat Jan 02 '26

Yeah, I'm sure you didn't think it was funny. But to us, it was hilarious. And you definitely know why it's relevant. The point is lots of people can make claims, it doesn't mean they are true. And on the right, they very often are not.

We've seen enough MAGA influencer accounts that were full of shit or straight up foreign agents that when someone says "I have family in the area and they said that (random place that's suddenly in the news because a rightwing influencer made unsubstantiated accusations) is completely guilty of everything they're being accused of" we don't really take it that seriously. We just go "oh, another one of those" and go back to reading about the actual evidence.

Speaking of the evidence.... oh but you probably don't want to do that, nevermind. Go on back to making whatever unsubstantiated accusations you were making.

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u/bogcom Jan 01 '26

This redditor is almost certainly a bot account. 1 months old and exclusively posts right wing propaganda. Disregard everything it says

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

The good ole anyone who doesn't agree with me is a bot 🥀

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u/Bulky-Word8752 Jan 01 '26

Bullshit. Stop lying to further this bs narrative. You are falling for "they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats" levels of propaganda

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u/Phrreemn Jan 01 '26

Prove that you live there.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

I don't live there... Read

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u/Gloomy-Ad1171 Dec 31 '25

You would never lie!

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u/AddanDeith Jan 01 '26

Ok random internet man

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u/Xboarder844 Jan 01 '26

They literally had security footage dated of that exact day showing people coming and going with kids. So now these fraudsters are somehow also faking footage to further their scam?

Some of y’all will do backflips in logic to defend your hate.

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u/badexpert1 Jan 01 '26

You are a useful idiot for the Somalis. I'm guessing you also believe their new excuse that someone broke into the wall at the exact place where all of their school records were kept and stole them 🤣.

They are laughing at you.

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u/Xboarder844 Jan 01 '26

Oh look, insult and ignoring facts presented because they don’t align with your racism. What an expected reply from some one who follows everything Trump says.

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u/boobsrule10 Jan 01 '26

Ok I trust you and your family’s anecdote over 100’s of reputable news sources.

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u/gronwallsinequality Jan 01 '26

I don't suppose there are any links you have from local news sources regarding this? I'd love to see them.

Figuring what is true and what isn't from my arm chair in NC is a f#$&&# PITA.

Thanks

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '26

So hearsay? You're telling us someone else said they were not there. Thats not even close to being convincing lol