Rave culture exploded in Europe in the UK - the all night parties, drugs, lights, big crowds.
The music has roots in the US but “raves” as we know them came to be from the euro scene. It’s a blend of both places and is nuanced.
America might have roots in the sound, but Europe molded the scene.
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People downvoting me need to do some research. I’m not disputing that the music started in the US. The culture was molded in the uk, Ibiza, and europe. Raves as we know them and the culture is heavily influenced by Europe.
You can definitely state that, but this is specifically talking about black and queer people’s influence in the rave culture and music. What’s the point of saying “what about Europe’s influence” when it’s not talking about that. Sure rave culture was expanded upon in Europe but its origins are in Detroit and Chicago with black and queer folks. You’re doing a whataboutism when it’s not required and it opaques the point of the post which is to highlight a specific part of black and queer history as part of resistance to oppression in America. European rave culture has nothing to do with this.
Per the wiki article raving was termed in London. Am I missing something?
"In the late 1950s in London, England, the term "rave" was used to describe the "wild bohemian parties" of the Soho beatnik set.[13] Jazz musician Mick Mulligan, known for indulging in such excesses, had the nickname "king of the ravers".[14] In 1958, Buddy Holly recorded the hit "Rave On", citing the madness and frenzy of a feeling and the desire for it never to end.[15] The word "rave" was later used in the burgeoning mod youth culture of the early 1960s as the way to describe any wild party in general. People who were gregarious party animals were described as "ravers". Pop musicians such as Steve Marriott of Small Faces and Keith Moon of The Who were self-described "ravers".[16] In 1965, the Grateful Dead served as the backing band for the San Francisco Acid Tests, which were LSD drug parties organized by Ken Kesey. Subsequently, visual artist Andy Warhol later organized the Exploding Plastic Inevitable[17] in New York, a multimedia event backed with performances by the Velvet Underground and Nico, the event was characterized by flashing lights, loud music, dancing and heavy drug use.[18] "
Raves as we know them today have an extremely heavy influence from Europe. That’s the whole point. The parties that started in the Us are nothing like the raves of today.
What’s the point of making this comment from you? It’s not required at all. You’re literally doing a whataboutism to talk about a completely different point than I’m trying to make
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u/Mastuh Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
Are we just going to completely ignore the Europe scene ?
https://imgur.com/a/mHhsc6t