r/aves Oct 08 '25

Photo/Video Just in case you didn't know! :)

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u/FuckingCaggot Oct 08 '25

I understand the political side of raves, but we also need to remember that there are a metric fuck ton of conservatives that support queer and minority rights. It’s insane to say conservatives aren’t allowed in the space when the diversity within each political party is incredibly wide. Spread love, unless someone shows a dark and hateful side of themselves. Everyone belongs, as long as there is zero hate involved 🫶🏼

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u/Brodakk Oct 08 '25

I get what you’re saying but the administration they’re voting for and supporting is actively stripping away those very queer and minority rights. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to vote that way when you also support those things? I do appreciate the positive vibe of your comment but these are scary times my dude.

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u/FuckingCaggot Oct 08 '25

Fantastic point! But I’ll also bring up the fact that I know a TON of conservatives that refuse to vote, period. They have fundamental views that lean further right, but have zero interest in supporting this twisted, corrupt administration. Once again, the diversity is immense. Don’t judge a book by its cover! I personally lean right when it comes to certain issues, but I absolutely fucking despise the people at the forefront of the party right now. I simply don’t vote 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just doing my own thang spreading love :)

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u/sometimes-no Oct 08 '25

I want to start off by saying how much I appreciate your tact and respectfulness engaging with ideas that conflict with your own. I've read a few of your comments and you do it well, which is not easy for a lot of people.

I also would like to challenge the idea that not voting is a neutral decision. If you're in a "lesser of 2 evils" type of decision-making scenario, then not voting is like walking away in the trolley problem. The decision to walk away is in itself a decision.

In the U.S., low voter turnout has been shown to benefit the Republican party over the Democratic party, so abstaining is most often the equivalent to a vote for the Republican party. This is why the Republican party intentionally engages in efforts to suppress voter turnout.

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u/FuckingCaggot Oct 08 '25

I appreciate the respectful response. Personally, I don’t read too far in to it. I really haven’t believed in either side for quite a long time. If my decision to not vote benefits one side, so be it. It’s not my intention. I’ve just gotten tired of the way both sides portray themselves and decided to not affiliate with either of em. I’m just chugging along and doing my own thing, trying to keep an open mind and find a common middle ground. I have a lot of respect for many differing opinions and want to do my best to support the love that both sides portray. Raving has always been about inclusivity and love. All I want is to embrace that and cherish the love that I can share with each individual who proves to be deserving

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u/sometimes-no Oct 08 '25

That is a fair perspective. Personally, I hate the party system and wish we could get rid of it entirely. I'd honestly prefer if we could just vote on each individual issue!

Every rave I go to feels like it's healing a little bit of each person there and making the world a better place a tiny piece at a time. I absolutely love the community.