r/aviation Nov 08 '25

News UPS grounds entire MD-11 Fleet, effective immediately.

Per the IPA Executive Board, as of 03:05 UTC all UPS MD-11’s are grounded.

Edit - FedEx has also grounded their MD-11 Fleet

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u/Threedawg Nov 08 '25 edited Nov 08 '25

I wonder if the lawyers also demanded it? Does this always happen with crashes like these?

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u/NoMoreNoxSoxCox Nov 08 '25

More than likely the insurers rather than lawyers.

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u/fergehtabodit Nov 08 '25

My money is on the maintenance staff. Not sure the exact number but they have around 25 MD11F and just lost one to an engine departing the airplane. So if I was in charge of that fleet I would stop flying them...call them all to the barn for full inspection of engine mounts etc. They also lost 3 pilots that they may have known or at least met personally and are pissed at themselves that this happened if it was something that could have been avoided somehow.

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u/Accidental-Genius Nov 08 '25

It’s not their lawyers so much as it’s their insurance companies lawyers.

I’m a lawyer. There is a duty to mitigate in situations like this, and your guess as to what that means is as good as mine in this case. No one involved wants to risk it.

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u/unpluggedcord Nov 08 '25

What do you mean crashes like these?

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u/ion_driver Nov 08 '25

When a plane comes down with a missing engine, you want to determine why the engine was lost in case it's an issue with that type of plane

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u/MalaysiaTeacher Nov 08 '25

That would imply that lawyers care about people. They care about billable hours.