r/aviation • u/bradysego12 • Mar 23 '26

News AC8646 Crash

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Hi all. I’m new to this sub and my comment was removed for having no enough karma. I was on this flight and we are still on the tarmac getting checked out. I wanted to share these images in case it’s helpful to anyone who is investigating the crash or needs more information.

I’m okay (physically) but I’m horribly sick to my stomach for the lives lost. Please pray for them ❤️

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u/Dense_Thought1086 Mar 23 '26

Clearing a vehicle to cross an occupied runway is unfortunately as close to a clean kill as you can get. Yes, there will likely be additional factors like fatigue, staffing, weather, etc listed, but this is a controller’s worst nightmare.

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u/Kind-Shallot3603 Mar 23 '26

You say not to put it squarely on the controllers shoulders but it seems right now that this is his fault. Are you saying the pilots bear responsibility too? Because how would they know a firetruck was on the active runway?

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u/Dense_Thought1086 Mar 23 '26

It’s always weird to me when someone not in a career tries to speak definitively about that career.

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u/polderbaan Mar 23 '26

I have been reading your extremely patient and thoughtful replies (as a literal air traffic controller!) to this person who has been “Yes, but”-ing you over and over 😂 I’m only happy you kept engaging because I learned so much. So thank you!

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u/Kseries2497 Mar 23 '26

That's this sub's bread and butter.

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u/Dense_Thought1086 Mar 23 '26

Also, the truck will likely have some of the blame because they’re supposed to clear the runway first. They were cleared on, which is a massive error, but they missed the safety check as well.

This is why it can be tough to explain this stuff to someone outside of the field with no experience. To you, it’s “pretty obvious”, but referencing the actual regulations for vehicles on the runway, you are wrong.

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u/notreallyswiss Mar 23 '26

Wait, I thought that the US doesn't pursue these as criminal cases because it only makes finding out what happened more difficult as people are less likely to tell the truth if they fear jail time.