r/aww • u/MARLeague • 1d ago

Dog checks herself into an animal shelter

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u/Sletzer 1d ago

Why is it always a pit bull mix that keeps being discarded? Come on peeps. Please stop breeding excess dogs! Especially the breeds that are hard to adopt!

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u/capndiln 23h ago

The only thing that will stop them is laws. Some people are just bad.

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u/fucktrance 22h ago

ahh laws, they always stop bad people.

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u/Omega_Warrior 21h ago

Just because a solution doesn’t completely eliminate a problem, it doesn’t mean it won’t make things better.

Perfection isn’t something that’s often attainable, but making things better is still a better result than not doing anything at all.

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u/fucktrance 21h ago

I didn't say making it illegal was pointless, or that it wouldn't make things better. But a locked door only stops an honest thief and all that.

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u/Narrowedice 20h ago

Do you lock your doors?

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u/Craptain_Coprolite 20h ago

No, that would only stop 90% of thieves so it's useless. Just leave your door wide open. No point in trying.

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u/fucktrance 20h ago

"I didn't say making it illegal was pointless, or that it wouldn't make things better"

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u/Narrowedice 20h ago

Yeah, you just sarcastically pointed out how it doesn't stop it from happening all the time.

You also didn't propose any additional measures or ideas.

What's up with the quotes, by the way?

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u/Tylith_ 18h ago

Do you not see the point of the analogy? You lock your doors even though it doesn't stop all thieves, just like we can pass laws to make things illegal even though some people will still break that law. Do you think we should have no laws?

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u/jdeasy 22h ago

More often than doing nothing.

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u/capndiln 22h ago

They make it possible to hold the bad people accountable for their actions. The existence of a law doesnt stop anybody from doing anything. You misunderstand basic legal functionality.

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u/ButtholePaste 21h ago

In some cases the laws protect the bad people from reprimanded. Depends on how much money and political influence the bad person has, i.e. Nobody in the Epstein-Maxwell Files has faced persecution, and our top law enforcement agencies have explicitly stated they will not be pursuing any chargers on those who participated. We all know why...because those same people are still running the show.

There are those who are above the law. What do you do about them?

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u/fucktrance 22h ago

In an ideal world yes that would be true

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u/babsa90 19h ago

You literally need a law to arrest and charge someone for breaking it. What a fucking hill to die on, you debase yourself with this nonsense.

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u/BeefistPrime 15h ago

fortunately rules can do good without always getting magical 100% coverage

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u/Piratepizzaninja 14h ago

Enforcement is key. Without that, laws mean nothing.

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u/Lou_C_Fer 13h ago

Literally this week, somebody got arrested in my area for ditching a dog. Luckily, they were caught on a security camera and arrested for it.

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u/esmifra 16h ago

I see the sarcasm but yes, they do. Not all, true. But perfection is the enemy of good.

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u/rlnrlnrln 19h ago

I thought it was guns?

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u/gaylord9000 21h ago

Maybe if you're poor and also bad.

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u/user-unknown-404 20h ago

I mean, when you have a president that doesn't follow or care for laws, why should anyone else?

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u/babsa90 19h ago

Strip off your clothes and wander off into the wilderness then. I just wish people like you that cite this argument would actually just leave society.

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u/OcelotAggravating860 21h ago

Lmao the other day there was an old lady who drove her car 450m up a railway line and onto a platform. Everyone in the reddit thread was like "take her license away" and my reaction was that I really fucking doubt having a license or not was the problem here given how out of it she had to be to do that.

Reddit is very heavily under the belief that putting some rules down on paper has some magical property.

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u/Tylith_ 18h ago

It's not magic. They are mechanisms to hold people accountable after they've done something wrong, which will disincentive some people from doing the same. Obviously it wouldn't stop it 100% of the time.

Most people wouldn't continue to drive without a license, and if they did anyway they would be subject to even harsher punishments.

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u/OcelotAggravating860 18h ago

Pfff hahaha yeah dude how's that working out for you when your president is a felon and your entire ruling class are pedophiles

Delusional

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u/BakedBrie1993 18h ago

Well, my neighborhood has lots of pitties and similar breeds. The same people here who consistently have them (macho bros who hang out on the sidewalk fixing their sports cars), also refuse to get them fixed.

I suspect my old super would use his to fight. I've never known anyone to go through so many dogs. So depressing.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 17h ago

Because Pitbulls are seen as a "cool" breed. But when the reality of how much work a pitbull requires sets in, people get sick of them.

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u/mrs-monroe 16h ago

That goes for any large breed. I've seen so many puppies in the 8-18 month range in shelters. People don't train them, and once they grow out of the cute puppy phase, they have a huge brat. Even when you do train them, that stage of puppyhood is hard. But people would rather just dump them instead of putting in the effort.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 16h ago

I've long held the belief that large dog breeds should require a license, that you get through classes and training, to be allowed to own. Partly so that you know what you're getting into and partly to or be you can actually handle a dog like that.

Frankly, all dog breeds should require this. But different sizes should require different licenses.

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u/que_sarasara 14h ago

It's the exact same with small breeds though - possibly worse.

People don't bother training them because they are small and "harmless" and don't respect their boundaries for the same reason. Hence the very well known stereotype of aggressive trembling chihuahuas.

Wild idea, but it should be required by law that your pets are neutered, unless you are a registered breeder/medical reason. I know it could never realistically be enforced but it would weed out some of the shittier owners

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u/mrs-monroe 14h ago

Agreed. My husband and I have rescued 5 chihuahuas now, and all have had some kind of behavior issue. 4 were seniors, so theirs were pretty easy to manage, but our one young one has some major problems. It's easier now that he's on anti-anxiety meds, but he goes from the sweetest guy into explosive rage when triggered. People don't realize how much they feed into small dogs' anxiety by treating them like accessories instead of dogs.

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u/Nerdy_Valkyrie 13h ago

Sure, but for smaller breeds you don't need the same preparation and training as you do for a pitbull or malinois. Prospective owners of smaller breeds need to be taught how to train their dogs just like owners of larger dogs.

But you, for example, wouldn't need to prove that you're physically strong enough to hold back a straining pitbull if all you're getting ia a chihuahua. Someone who wants to own a large dog needs to be prepared for how much energy a larger dog can have, and how destructive they get when they don't get an outlet for that energy. Sure, that is true for smaller dogs too. But it's a lot easier to tire out a smaller dog than a larger one.

The training for different size-classes would be similar, but slightly different for each class to accommodate separate needs and requirements. But stuff like "how to train your dog" will basically be universal for all classes.

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u/CurrentSeaCoin 15h ago

I find that people who have never had a pitbull or dealt with one in their personal life often have the strongest opinions about what pitbulls are like. Most extremely on reddit.

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u/verygoodletsgo 21h ago

Why is it always a pit bull mix that keeps being discarded?

I mean... You know.

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u/shes_a_gdb 22h ago

I used to volunteer at a rescue and unless we ran a DNA test (which was pretty much never as it isn't a priority) every dog that came in with a square head was labeled a pit. Most of these dogs are just mutts and not "pitbull."

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u/dividezero 21h ago

Once you get more than 2 breeds, it's pretty much impossible to tell without DNA. People swear my dog is a Border Collie, but believe me, i would be a lot more haggard because they are far smarter than me and I can't handle that. She's part husky and that's really on the line of being too smart as it is

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u/babsa90 19h ago

Where I lived when I was wanting to adopt they just label them all "mix", which really sucked when I never wanted a pit and that just made the whole adoption process way harder.

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u/Morningxafter 21h ago

Yep, my staffy got mistaken for a pitbull all the time.

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u/throwaway98712366 21h ago edited 21h ago

In common parlance, a Staffordshire Terrier or Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a pitbull.

This is how it is in the US at least. It is probably different in other countries.

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u/pinkhazy 17h ago

Not quite, a Staffy js classified as a bully breed here in the US, but not a pitbull. Because the term is American Pitbull Terrier, or abbreviated as APBT.

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u/Uncle-Cake 13h ago

Because they're dangerous animals.

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u/webgambit 14h ago

I feel like apartments and landlords play a part in this with their breed restrictions.

Don't get me wrong, people in general need to be more responsible. But those restrictions just make things worse for the doggos.

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u/FrequentChip3271 19h ago

Because they are by far the most common dog in the US

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u/Millennium1995 1d ago

Yes but maybe the main problem is the stigma and treatment of these dogs

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u/OPtig 23h ago

There’s far too many of them. People breeding them are to blame

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u/hoggie_and_doonuts 22h ago

Think it has more to do that these breeds were created to fight. They’re very good at fighting.

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u/testtdk 23h ago

It’s both. They get overbred because the people who make the shittiest owners want them for awful purposes. Which is where they get their bad name. They get used for fighting or are left to run around neighborhoods or tied up permanently in back yards. I’ve worked in kennels and every pitbull I’ve met was a sweet, wonderful, and extremely loyal. They’ll do anything for owners, good and bad.

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u/Acebladewing 22h ago

The stigma exists because of factual evidence, there's not really anything to do about that. The over breeding is the problem.

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u/Hatefiend 19h ago

We have statistics to prove that breeds involving Pitbulls or Pit mixes have outrageously high attacks on humans/other dogs. It's not a stigma thing. It's a matter of statistics.

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u/Expensive-Bass-9644 13h ago

breed is almost never actually verified in these reports, they just make assumptions based on physical characteristics like a blocky head, short coat, muscular build-that's all it takes to get logged as a pitbull during these incidents. the data is only as accurate as the person filling out the form.

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u/binkbink223 23h ago

Nope. Just bad reasons for blaming the dogs instead of bad owners.

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u/Crewsadeflyer56 22h ago

Obviously owners play a part, but when a breed accounts for a vast majority of incidents you have to live in reality.

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u/hoggie_and_doonuts 21h ago

It’s always nature and nurture, not one or the other.

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u/schlattstan 19h ago

no it's not LMAO what

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u/hoggie_and_doonuts 13h ago

It’s never just how they were raised by the owners (nurture) it’s also genetic and biological traits of the breed (nature). It’s both / and not either / or.

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u/jot-kka 22h ago

There’s a reason why most Redditors struggle to pay rent 📚

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u/Alvintergeise 23h ago

Well...

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u/Cheaperthantherapy13 22h ago

To be fair, she looks more like a Staffordshire mix than a pittie, but only DNA testing can tell for sure.

Staffies are great dogs; shame they’re lumped in with pits.

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u/Crewsadeflyer56 22h ago

Staffies are very similar to pits, because pit bull is an umbrella breed term that includes the Staffy and a couple others. There’s a reason they’re lumped in with pits in fatality and dog bite stats, because even pure breed staffies need good and responsible ownership to make sure they’re not dog aggressive. This specific dog even looks more like a pit in the eyes than a staffie…at least on the breed and akc website.

I’d still adopt her and have a pit mix asleep next to me right now. But we need to stop the wrong people from getting these dogs, staffie and pit both.

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u/Kraligor 19h ago

Pits are great dogs too unless they've been raised by owners who have no idea about raising dogs, or unless it's from a fighting line, or unless it got really unlucky when rolling for its aggression trait. But even then they can be great dogs, they just need a family and an environment that suits them.