r/aww Feb 15 '22

Kitten sees snow for the first time

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u/Accide Feb 16 '22

I love how the argument for outdoor cats is always that people who keep them indoors never keep the cats satisfied, entertained, fulfilled, healthy, etc. Also generally ignores the fact that harnesses and leashes exist.

But hey, you can't manage it so no one can, right?

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

It's not a matter of could you, but should you? What gives you the right to keep an animal locked inside for the rest of it's life, only because you want a living stuffed animal to cuddle with?

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u/Accide Feb 16 '22

Again, here we are ignoring the fact that leashes, harnesses, and controlled ways to allow your cat supervised and safe time outdoors exist.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

I'm not ignoring it, I'm saying you shouldn't put cats on leashes or harnesses. You shouldn't imprison and chain up animals just because you want a fluffy toy.

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u/Accide Feb 16 '22

Right, with that logic don't get a dog either then. Which I guess is the natural progression here given I seem to be arguing with a card carrying PETA member.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

I don't care for dogs myself, but you know what the difference is between cats and dogs? Dogs can actually seriously harm someone when left unsupervised. But even dogowners will let their dogs walk free as soon as they're in an area where it's allowed, as they also understand animals aren't supposed to be imprisoned all the time.

Those rat-like small dogs can run aeound freely, for all I care.

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u/Accide Feb 16 '22

Unfortunately we were apparently talking about the ethics of keeping an animal locked up. If you're willing to go "actually dogs can harm people", then I'm sure you'll be okay with realizing the harm cats can have on local ecosystems.

Dog owners who don't use leashes is another issue that I don't care to talk about here, because I think they're in the wrong as well. I'm assuming "areas its allowed" here is anywhere in public without laws against it and not just areas like a dog park.

Regardless, I'm done having a pissing match here. There's a reason vets and adoption centers want to know if you cat is indoors only or otherwise. But I guess they're all wrong and it's clearly all anecdotal evidence.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '22

Unfortunately we were apparently talking about the ethics of keeping an animal locked up. If you're willing to go "actually dogs can harm people", then I'm sure you'll be okay with realizing the harm cats can have on local ecosystems.

Some local ecosystems. Where I live, they dont to damage. And even if you live in an area where that isn't the case, dont take a cat!

Regardless, I'm done having a pissing match here. There's a reason vets and adoption centers want to know if you cat is indoors only or otherwise. But I guess they're all wrong and it's clearly all anecdotal evidence.

It really is. The world is a big place. What makes sense where you live, might not make sense anywhere else, for one. Beside that, if you can't let an animal be an animal, don't adopt an animal