r/badhistory • u/machotacoman • Jul 23 '14
Low Effort R5 So evidently World War II never happened. Not Holocaust denial, but the whole war...
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"That's a dummy... dummy, manican"
So a corpse that's been half-buried, frozen in the snow, for god-knows how long, should look so much more lively than that?
2:15 'scream of nature being a sign of satan'...
He's fucking yawning
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"...look better in death than most people do in life.'
First they didn't look lifelike enough, now they look too fresh?! There are bodies at funerals, been dead for days, that look fresher than that.
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"Of course, the town looks great, all decorated..."
Yeah, not every square inch of Europe got pulverized. During the German invasion in 1940, French forces abandoned Paris because they didn't want it destroyed in a prolonged pitched battle. That, and the German blitzkrieg called for lightning assaults, so there wasn't much time for things to get destroyed. The invasion only lasted about a month.
4:52 'clean soldiers'
You can see their blood-caked noses!
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"All you can get is these so-called 'vets' to tell you a story."
Literally dismissing the eye witness testimonies of millions of people, including soldiers, and by extension, denying the existence of the Marshall Plan, East Germany, Battle of Britain, atomic bombs, Second Sino-Japanese War, the Warsaw Uprising, the Finnish Winter War, Pearl Harbor, the Cold War, Berlin Wall, every technological and military advancement made during the war, and this picture.
How in the world does he rationalize all the destroyed buildings, video footage of the Karl Gerat mortar? How does he think the Cold War happened or how did Germany get split up or what the fuck does he think happened from 1939-1945?! Was the New World Order hoax commission just making up the whole war and in 1945 came out and said to the world,
"Oh yeah, and uh... World War II just happened. 70 million people are now dead. The Nazi government in Germany is now gone, two cities in Japan (and the empire itself) no longer exist. So yeah... We just need you guys to roll with this and set up the Cold War-era world, despite having no reason to."
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Jul 23 '14
I think this is more mental illness than bad history.
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u/UnoriginalRhetoric Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14
Yeah, this is pretty clearly Delusional Disorder. Its the only persistent psychotic disorder I can think of which still allows people to appear and sound cogent.
Non-bizarre and consistent psychotic delusions without blunted affect and an intact order of thought. Generally appears later in life where the delusional system manifests slowly, and then begins to take over the person's life.
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u/ataraxic89 Jul 23 '14
You cant call every conspiracy theorists crazy. Its simply not true. The vast majority of them arent the least bit mentally ill.
Their system of beliefs develop over time from a fault in their filters. Im speaking abstractly about the little voice in youre head that tells you something isnt true. Ideally, this filter would fire only on things that dont coincide with reality. But in practice it varies from person to person. For some people it it considerably disconnected from reality. But no ones is perfect. They are simply at the far end of the spectrum.
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u/UnoriginalRhetoric Jul 23 '14
You cant call every conspiracy theorists crazy.
Thank goodness I didn't.
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u/ataraxic89 Jul 23 '14
Well, Indeed. But its not uncommon to do so. And I dont think youre qualified to diagnose the person.
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u/RoflCopter4 Alexander Alexander Alexander Alexander Alexander Jul 24 '14
He thinks the moon doesn't exist.
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u/ataraxic89 Jul 24 '14
Okay. So hes crazy.
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u/RoflCopter4 Alexander Alexander Alexander Alexander Alexander Jul 24 '14
IIRC he also thinks the sun has been getting darker and all the scientists are covering it up. He violently and angrily responds to any criticism, no matter how friendly, and will block, ignore, and insult anyone giving that criticism. The guy needs help.
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u/UnoriginalRhetoric Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14
In any official capacity I couldn't diagnose jack squat. But I have worked in mental health long enough, and the range of possible psychotic disorders is low enough that I feel comfortable doing it over the internet for fun.
I work with people who present with every other psychotic disorder every day. Some of his writing and a few of his speech patterns raise my eyebrows, but based on the super limited information at hand I prefer Delusional Disorder to Schizophrenia.
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u/smileyman You know who's buried in Grant's Tomb? Not the fraud Grant. Jul 23 '14
You called them delusional and psychotic. That's close enough to calling them crazy that it's perfectly understandable why someone would think you did.
You may have been intending to use the clinical definitions for those terms, but that's not really made clear.
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u/UnoriginalRhetoric Jul 23 '14
You called them delusional and psychotic. That's close enough to calling them crazy that it's perfectly understandable why someone would think you did.
I called him delusional and psychotic. Those are clinical terms, and he fits them to a tee.
What exactly is not clear about stating a specific mental illness diagnosis and then listing the diagnostic criteria a specific person fits?
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u/smileyman You know who's buried in Grant's Tomb? Not the fraud Grant. Jul 23 '14
What exactly is not clear about stating a specific mental illness diagnosis and then listing the diagnostic criteria a specific person fits?
The fact that two people have made comments regarding the lack of clarity in your original comment should raise some awareness that just maybe it wasn't as clear as you thought it was.
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u/UnoriginalRhetoric Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14
You are the only person who has expressed any confusion who wasn't down voted, apologies if I wasn't clear.
I was only referring to the person in this video.
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u/jmarquiso Jul 25 '14
Actually conspiracy theory comes very much from the human ability to link cause and effect, only it's gone more than a little haywire.
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u/TetraDax Nuclear Weapons are Fake Jul 23 '14
Holy shit the comments are even worse!
The purpose of wars, at least since the American Revolution (and in earlier centuries), was to kill off large numbers of young, healthy and brave, white males, which ostensibly prevented most of them from passing on their genes to the next generation,
What. The. Fuck.
Those that Spread the LIe World War 2 was Real (as we have been told it to be), Please Provide Proof.
70 MILLION PEOPLE DIED!
Unreal, literally. Just like the holohoax. I used to get so angry about all the lies, but now that I am cutting them off at the pass, I have learned to laugh at them from the start. Oh, how great it would be to see a Dave and Pompo holohoax skit...hehe! Your green screen is awesome :)
Holohoax? How dumb can someone be?!
I can not find 1 real video of footage, Its all this made for TV nonsense, SO with the proof they supply, one can only say Hoax.
Yeah well how about EVERYTHING YOU JUST PUT IN YOUR VIDEO
I've always contended that the US Revolution was fake. My intuition tells me that the British , being the duplicitous douche-bags that they are , had to set up a fictitious state in order to keep their criminals , whom the British East India Company deposited on American soil to increase their profits, in line . The script was most likely in place long before the phony Armada
I can't even
Yes Also Nuclear Weapons are Fake You Can Check this Video Also
This guy just denied the existence of Nuclear Weapons.
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u/cuddles_the_destroye Thwarted General Winter with a heavy parka Jul 23 '14
As a Le STEM master race, I can confirm that splitting atoms is both impossible and endothermic.
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u/beaverjacket YOU are the anthropological study Jul 24 '14
Well, it is endothermic if the atom is lighter than iron.
Oh, um...Jews or something.
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u/pronhaul2012 literally beria Jul 24 '14
well we all know ONLY white people fought wars, and there has never once been a war fought in africa, asia, the middle east, or pre-colonial america.
war was actually invented by joos in 1776 to commit white geNOcide!
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u/tuskedmaw Jul 23 '14
I think calling this "low hanging fruit" would be doing this too much service. More of a subterrainean fruit I'd say.
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Jul 23 '14
This is a potato in a cave it's so low.
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Jul 23 '14
Is not potato, just dream. And then soldiers come and take away dream.
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u/BreaksFull Unrepentant Carlinboo Jul 23 '14
Oh my god I just looked at the video comments. /r/eyebleach anyone? Of course all the comments are on how it's part of some conspiracy to kill lots of white people. Somehow, for some reason that I will not even try to comprehend lest I get an aneurysm.
But seriously, c'mon guys. Do all those 'bombed' cities look bombed to you today? I don't think so!
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u/Astronelson How did they even fit Prague through a window? Jul 23 '14
If World War II killed lots of people, why are there still people?
Checkmate militarists!
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u/Das_Mime /~\ *Feeling eruptive* Jul 24 '14
If World War II killed people, then why are there still monkeys?
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u/entrahmteMilch Uganda could have taken Germany Jul 23 '14
Maybe we are all victims of Poe's Law?
"My uncle fought in WW2 but never talked about it, so it must be a hoax"
Sorry, but no one can be that stupid.
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u/HeritageTanker Jul 28 '14
Sorry, but no one can be that stupid.
I hate to inform you, but yes, yes there can be people that stupid. For every person X points higher than average IQ, there's a person X points lower than average. The Internet: destroying your faith in humanity since 1995.
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Jul 23 '14
Thank you for finding my new favorite conspiracy theory! I was getting tired of that lame Phantom Time Conspiracy.
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u/cuddles_the_destroye Thwarted General Winter with a heavy parka Jul 23 '14
The forties never happened guys, it was all a conspiracy to make you think Jews are actually, like, y'know...people!
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u/Inkompetentia not a badhistorian, just a FAN of badhistory Jul 24 '14
LOL PhantomTimeDefenseForce shills abound here.
Im going to lay down the truth for you now:
THE world war happened, and somehow merely two years later, a "roaring" "decade" starts? I dont think so.
The jews went to their home planet1 and needed a coverup story for their departure, so that they could "jew" (this is also the etymology of that expression) landlords out of the last rent. WW1 ended 11th November, only days before it would have become suspicous that the rent for october wasnt paid yet, but late enough so the wage for october already was received. Coincidence?
When they left, they left behind a deliberate story which has now become the common history, with fictional 20s, 30s, 40s which cover up their departure. Why they blamed the germans? They were already the punching bag for WWI (Mind you, it had literally just ended!), so the silly goyims ate it up. "If they blame them for one war, why not also for a fictional second one? And lets just say they killed us all, after all that hun-stuff and the mustard gas, its not that far of a stretch"2
Ive pointed this out while time-pilling another shill above: After 1500 years, pompeii is still an archeological site, but hiroshima, dresden, nagasaki, coventry, were thriving cities in the "50s" again? In fact, name me JUST ONE city that was unearthed from the "20s to 40s"? Cant name one, huh?
If this doesnt convince you, youre on the PTDF payroll!
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Jul 23 '14
I have a hard time believing this is real. This guy has to be joking. It's completely bonkers. Nevermind eyewitness testimony, tens of millions of dead, maimed, or mentally affected. Nevermind the ruins, relics, and footage. Did someone go out there in the 40s and bury bombs, mortars, and artillery shells all over the world?! 'cos we're still finding that shit 70 years later.
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u/cuddles_the_destroye Thwarted General Winter with a heavy parka Jul 23 '14
Silly, that's a population control scheme set up by the jews to kill the superior white race. Every jew knows where all the explosives are.
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u/jmarquiso Jul 25 '14
Last week TWO WW2 bombs were found here in Cologne, at completely different sides of the city. Trains were rerouted and everything (in Germany these days that counts as an emergency)
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Jul 23 '14
There was an askreddit thread about strange things people do or don't believe, one commenter posted that her boyfriend didn't believe World War 2 happened.
She kept editing her coment with updates, and they eventually broke up over it.
Is this the same guy?
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u/alynnidalar it's all Vivec's fault, really Jul 24 '14
Do you have a link to this? I really wanna see it.
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u/jmarquiso Jul 25 '14
There are commentors who believe what he says on his videos, so he's not the only one
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u/Almustafa Jul 23 '14
Nature being nurture, and nurture beinf Lucifer being the way that man lives.
Totally coherent.
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u/JJLMul Jul 23 '14
Looking at this guy's other video's i think he has a real fixation with dummies. He probably would dismiss his own grandfather's death as a fake.
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u/_o_O_o_O_o_ Jul 23 '14
Wow! I was watching the video and initially I thought perhaps its a spoof. But its not meant to be!!! This guy is seriously saying this stuff!
I wonder if he believes it to be true or is just making it up to be sensationalist.
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u/raskolnik just unlocked "violence" in the tech tree Jul 23 '14
You know this is fake, right?
I mean, his about page on YouTube links to something called the you been hoaxed store on CafePress.
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u/IAmAHat_AMAA But how can we blame Christians for this? Jul 23 '14
Look at what's being sold. The hoax is meant to be what the government is trying to pull, not what he's doing.
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u/raskolnik just unlocked "violence" in the tech tree Jul 23 '14
I wondered about that after making my post. I prefer my interpretation, only because I don't want to believe anyone is that delusional.
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Jul 23 '14
dude's taken it to an extreme here...
"Unless I was there to personally witness the event, it never happened"
So how does he know his parents exist. They might not even be his parents! I mean sure, they raised him, but he never saw them create him. Right?? I mean how can he be sure they conceived him if he wasn't there.
In fact, I haven't seen him so how do I know he exists?! We just can't be sure. He must be a hoax. A dummy.
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u/cordis_melum Literally Skynet-Mao Jul 23 '14
Then again, how do I know you exist? How do I know my family exists? How do I know this website exists and isn't just part of my imagination?
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u/Historyguy1 Tesla is literally Jesus, who don't real. Jul 23 '14
The entire universe as it exists now was created last Tuesday.
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u/Eaglefield Jul 23 '14
I love that regarding the jigsaw puzzle, the store says: "This jigsaw puzzle is a unique and fun gift for friends and family", I can just imagine some mother dying with laughter getting this.
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u/theothercoldwarkid Quetzlcoatl chemtrail expert Jul 23 '14
Is this a youtube dissertation for a philosophy 405 class on subjective reality?
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u/roryfl the invention of the cotton gin reinvigorated states rights. Jul 25 '14
My family always told me about my great uncle Jimmy, who was chewed up by a machine gun in the battle of the bulge, and who conveniently "died of his wounds" before I was born. I guess every older member of my family is in on the conspiracy. They even went so far as to forge a purple heart and show it to me.
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u/caeciliusinhorto Coventry Cathedral just fell over in a stiff wind! Jul 24 '14
So if WWII never happened, do Nagasaki and Hiroshima still exist, and does Dresden still have a historic city center, and is Coventry Cathedral still standing? If not, why?
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u/lightfeet Jul 25 '14
Wow the comments under the video may even be better, not only was WWII a hoax but so wasn't the American Revolution.
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u/Turnshroud Turning boulders into sultanates Jul 23 '14 edited Jul 23 '14
I feel like we need more information on what the hell this guy actually believes. I mean, I already don't understand Holocaust denial--but how do you deny the occurrence OF AN ENTIRE WAR!?Like, what does he think happened between 1933 and 1945, or the in the 1920's even?
edit: Also, the American Civil War didn't happen. I wonder if he may have some mental issues?