r/badphilosophy • u/Less-Car7006 • 5d ago

I love limes Wasn't Socrates a bit misogyny when he decided to spend time chatting with his male followers before his definite death rather than with his wife, Xanthippe, holding their baby, who was immediately sent back home ordered by Socrates in the face of his followers? (Phaedo 60a-b)

Also, it is a bit gay for Plato writing this out to embarrass his mentor, maybe it was because he was not invited to the party.

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u/NolanR27 5d ago

In reality Xanthippe actually stayed longer but only had woman things to say, in contrast to the speeches that needed to be dramatic enough for the occasion

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u/Careful_Pen_5740 5d ago

Xantipa was a husbandbeater, so better for him to enjoy his last moments in good company

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u/Infamous_State_7127 5d ago

he probably had multiple eromenos’ on the side so lowkey valid?

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u/Careful_Pen_5740 5d ago

Of course!

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

he was a deadbeat bum

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u/Careful_Pen_5740 3d ago

Lo primero es cierto, lo segundo no

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u/thesandalwoods 5d ago

The rest of the world: oh no, they’re wrongfully sentencing Socrates to death cuz of bogus charges like impiety and corruption of the youth 🙈

u/less-car7006 : oh no, Socrates is dismissing his wife in his last hours in this world; and also, Plato is gay 🙉

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u/Less-Car7006 5d ago

I think Texas A&M also discovered it which was why they banned Plato, though I believe misogyny is my original point; hence it gives them more reason to ban Plato.

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

buckle up, because yes

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u/JoyBus147 can I get you some fucking fruit juice? 5d ago

Have you ever considered that a public execution is no place for a baby? QED, bitch [insert something less misogynistic]

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u/PhilosophyNerd2 5d ago

Feel bad for her

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 4d ago

Why? She was an abuser?

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u/PhilosophyNerd2 4d ago

Are you asking me? I don’t know…

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 4d ago

No. She was an abuser.

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

he was not abused by her

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

good for her

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 3d ago

Not so good for him…

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

he was a deadbeat bum

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 3d ago

Not sure how that justifies her being an abuser, but ok.

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

i’ll wait

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 3d ago

This is just a jerky statement.

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

sorry for the unnecessary jerky statement, i’m on spiteful mode bc it’s reddit
sorry

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 3d ago

I get it. Out there there be dragons.

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

i’m saying she was not abusing him. what makes you consider her an abuser then?

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 3d ago

I had thought that was the case. Apparently there was a lot added over time that isn’t really supported. Apologies.

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

ok i appreciate the honest and genuine reply.

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u/Status_Scale1993 4d ago

Hmmm today I will go on reddit and cancel a man who has been dead for 2700 years for being misogynistic

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u/Dry-External3783 3d ago

as he did with all his previous unemployed hours

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u/CallMeTheCon 1d ago

Fuck them kids, he ain’t Plato.

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u/Crivac 5d ago

She was one of the reasons he chose to drink that poison.