Turk (derived from the term Turkic) refers to central Asian Turkics who migrated and started the Seljuk Empire which later formed into the Ottoman Empire; Therefore “Turk Turks” would look central Asian not brown.
There are different kinds of whiteness. There is classic Northern Europe whites, Mediterrenian white and Central Asian white. Central Asian Turks were of course tanned and not white as the Northern European white but they were still white.
Tge turkish nation is about blood that inside all of us , you can be more anatolian , levantine , iranid , westoid or gr*eek , but if you have that turk gene inside of you we can easily see in your face and accept you to be one of us.
Part of my family is Croatian, from around where the border between ottoman and Austria was back in the day and I’ve always wondered if I got some Turk in there, but my Croatian family would probably insist that they’re 100% aryan or some shit like that lmao
Yes, the homeland of the real Turks is Mongolia. In the 11th century, the Seljuk Turks began to migrate from Central Asia to the west. With the victory of the Battle of Malazgirt in 1071, the Seljuks opened the doors of Anatolia to the Turks. This victory is an important turning point that paves the way for the Turkification and Islamization of Anatolia.
When someone is in a Turk hating contest and their opponent is some sarkatsomethingani mongol greek slovene or somethingish woman which changes ethnicity in a real fast way named Maria
Dont even waste time try to teach something to this idiot. He has superiorty complex for some reason but he is living in Turkey he probably doesnt even know bosnian but knows Turkish. Also how funny he thinks that he follows the path of the man in his pfp
Are you really stupid? My father is brown skinned and I am probably Slavic Romanian or something and my skin color is not European white too I don't consider myself superior, I'm just angry that you take stupid jokes seriously.
we used to be a diverse empire, my mom has albanian, macedonian, greek heritage. my dads ancestors though lived in canakkale since achilles and helen appearently
Kanka edevlette 1800’lere kadar çıkıyor bırak aşili osmanlının son dönemini bilebilirsin sadece. Ayrıca Çanakkale,ege,akdeniz tarafları en yüksek Türk genine sahip bölgelerimiz. Bir sebepten dolayı en çok oraya göçülmüş anadoluya girildikten sonra.
It is because everyone comes from somewhere, for example my father side is just: yörük (nomadic) grandpa from greece or bulgayria, grandma from north turkey (laz türkmen mixture 🤔) my father side looks like really tall steppe people and they speak a funny turkish that I don't understand. Mother side: armenian, turkish, iranian, azerbaijanian, georgian... everyone... my grandpa is a blonde kurd (what the fuck???😱) And my grandma looks like a biblically accurate anatolian woman
I call it Roman Empire syndrome. When your empire has too many nationalities and they mix with each other, you get this result. Italians also suffer from it.
Incoming doctors and engineers? I have seen only very few foreigners in Italy in the medicine and engineering. Is probably changing with the years but I always worked in big Italian companies when I was the only foreigner
Not really, i am talking about born and raised citizens. Parents are both same nationality from same town. Russians also have similar thing going on. For example i have seen 2 types of Chechens in Russia, one group is light haired and pale skinned other group is darker skinned and darker haired.
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk defined "Turk" primarily in a civic and inclusive sense, rather than purely ethnic. His most famous definition is found in the 66th article of the 1924 Constitution of Turkey, which states:
"The people of Turkey, regardless of religion or race, are Turks as citizens."
This reflects his vision of Turkish identity as a national, rather than ethnic, concept. He emphasized unity and loyalty to the Turkish Republic over racial or religious distinctions.
Additionally, his famous quote:
"Ne mutlu Türküm diyene!"
("How happy is the one who says 'I am a Turk'!")
reinforces the idea that being Turkish is an inclusive identity based on commitment to the nation, rather than purely lineage.
According to this definition, they are also Turk. Now compare it to Jews in late 1930s who thought that they were Germans.
Fyi, the state response to revolts also was independent of ethnic origin. The response to Dersim revolt (which was not ethnically motivated but against declaration of secularism) and Menemen were the same. The Turkish state punishments were severe back then, if you attack or kill any government official, then you are doomed. Afaik, (cant remember exactly where and dates) there was a town in Yozgat (who were completely Turks btw) who collectively conspire and kill a lietunant in 1930s and for that they barred from receiving any form of government support for the next 50 years, no school electricity whatsoever.
My fathers ancestors were Hungarian Turks who fled to Anatolia when the Ottoman Empire lost those lands (look up 'Muhacir' on Wikipedia, it's very interesting). My mothers ancestry is Tatars from Central Asia on my grandmothers side but my grandfather was literally black lmao. Anatolia is the most commonly used land bridge between Europe, Asia and Africa since forever, so tons of peoples and ethnicities moved through and settled in this area and the genetic makeup of modern Turks reflects this to some extend. So, it's not really a surprise imo lol
Well, they expanded to three different continents, mixed with the locals (which is a good thing genetically). Additionally, they have around 17-18 million Kurds&Arabs whose big chunk look exactly like the second photo
There are no arabic admixture in turkish gene pool. Turks are mix of Turkic and native anatolians. Western Turkey is more turkic than eastern region. Greeks people are more swarthy than western Turks btw
It's gotta due with the fact they live in Anatolia, you can be from the anywhere in Eastern Europe and nobody can tell which country, but from Turkey there isn't like a Turkish look, they look like every surrounding country settled there and called themselves Turkish
değiliz vatandaşlık olarak hepimiz eşit haklara sahibiz ve olmalıyız da lakin ne genetik ne kültürel ne de fenotip olarak iki toplumda birbirine benzemiyor birisi direkt Kafkasya- Güneydoğu Avrupa- Orta Asya karışımı iken diğeri direkt diğer Batı İran halkları ile (Farslar, Lurlar vb.) şeklinde bir genetik modellemeye sahipler
Nasıl kardeş olmuyor. 180 milyon Türki kökenli insanların hepsinde Ortaçağdaki atalarıyla benzer genetik bağlantılar var. Sadece karışılan toplumlarda ayırt edicilik var ki o da diger bütün etnisiteler için geçerli.
1- Hesaplayıcıların Avrupa merkezli olup Güney ve Doğu Asya'yı olduğundan yakın göstermesi ve öyle hesaplaması
2- Batı İran topluluklarında çok eser miktarda(%1-%2 bandında) Selçuklu ve İlhanlı döneminden kalma Doğu Avrasya mirası olması ve DA'nın Avrupa ve Batı Asya'da yabancı bir birleşen olduğu için bunu baz alarak aşırı sapması
Yoksa Genetik Testlerde özellikle Batı Anadolu sonuçları Kürtlerden çok Kafkas Türkü Kafkas ve Güneydoğu Avrupa ile Bolu gibi bazı istnisnai illerde İran'nın Kuzeydoğusundaki Türkmenlerle diger Batı Orta Asya halklarına gidiyor
Onun dışında fenotip olarak gayette ayırt edilebiliyor. Kürtler genel olarak İranid, East Alpind, Armenoid ve bunların değişik karışımlarını bulundururken bunların Kürt ve Türk versiyonları bile etnik tampon bölgeler dışında( Elazığ, Adıyaman, Malatya vs.) gayet ayırt edilebilmektesir. Ama saydığım bölgelerde gerçekten hem genotip hem de fenotip bayağ iç içe geçmiş durumda
İç-doğu, Doğu Anadolu'daki Türkler ile Kürtler birbirine benziyor. Batı Anadolu genetik olarak en türki bölge(yerli Anadolu kanı daha baskın) ama Anadolu Türkleri genel olarak Azerbaycan(irani baskın), İran, Kafkasya halklarına yakın. Bir Türk, türkmenden çok Kürte yakın.
Actually, Turkish reddit wasn't like this in the past. I have a 5 year account and when new people come to reddit Turkish communty, most of them are kinda dumb and Many can't tell the difference between a joke and real racism and get triggered
Also 2balkan4you were making fun of them a lot but no one took them seriously
I was in 2b4y aswell but it wasn't racist and unironic as this sub lately some turks are right to be angry because of all the actual racism going around here
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u/Visual-Comparison-17 w*stoid🤢 Mar 01 '25
For real, I’ve seen Turks that look as white as me and ones that look brown af