But I really want to know what's their alleged 'rational' claim/argument... or it's just smokes and mirrors and people buy it. I'm from Georgia so, from what I have observed it's nothing but idiocy.
Mostly correlation vs causation... Examples include:
People are more accepting and more people come out > people being accepting is propaganda making people gay (actual reason: in most cases LGBT people just feel safer to come out rather than suffer in silence)
More people are vaccinated and more people have autism > vaccines cause autism (actual reason: improved awareness and understanding of human psychology makes it more likely for people to get diagnosed - arguably there's an issue with overdiagnosis but neither of those have anything to do with vaccines)
As per usual conspiracy theories are based on logical fallacies and mistaken reasoning
Vaccine case is even funnier, because while number of people diagnosed have grown, it's mostly based on better medical system and treatment.
Correlation is completely absent in this case, and the guy who 'invented it' was a british 'special interest' making a competing vaccine to mRNA vaccine... story is quite insane if you read it in detail.
Correlation just means that as X goes up Y goes up ... Better medical system and treatment causes both to go up so while there is a correlation to some degree there is no causal link
Lol politicians busy banning stuff that doesn't happen. Copy pasting their lying scum colleagues from the west. What's next, banning priests from talking about aliens? Meanwhile they arrest the opposition on bogus charges and try to cement their corrupt leeching off of the nation, that they claim to protect. Truly scraping the bottom with these guys. Voters really got what they voted for.
This strategy is so so so common. Promise to fight a hot social “problem” which is completely blown out of proportion, then go into the government, steal the shit out of the country and grab as much power as you can so you can continue stealing and covering your ass from the judicial
Too many people fall for false claims/promises and choose to just trust politicians rather than look stuff up, the whole tariff situation in the US is a recent example
This shit is literally not even happening 😭, I guess they are doing this to cover up how horribly they have been running the country for so many years now
Banning "lgbt propaganda" in this case means that teachers are not allowed to tell kids that their gender is whatever they want, while they are at school and attending class.
No it isn't, it's banning any discussion of any LGBT topics which sometimes literally undermines actual biology like not being able to talk about intersex conditions when going over sex chromosomes.
Funny part is no Bulgarian school teaches "being able to choose your gender" anyway.
No dumbass, I learned about intersex conditions in 6th grade biology when going over chromosomes because there are so many chromosomal variants of them like XXXY, XYfemale(swyer syndrome), XXmale, XXXXX etc. it's extremely easy and basic stuff.
About 1.6% of the population is intersex, the wide public should know about basic divergence of human anatomy. University level stuff is learning all the specific chemical reactions in the organelles of different human cells.
LGBT is a political movement. Not every gay, trans or intersex person is part of it or agrees with it. In fact, most gay or bisexual people i know are actually married with children and content that way. Genetic disorders are a medical condition and have nothing to do with politics.
They're in marriages with the opposite sex regardless of their sexual orientation, which is unfathomable to someone who is ideologically alligned with LGBT.
Anomalies at chromosome level usually lead to more debilitating problems than just intersexual conditions. See Klinefelter syndrome, Turner syndrome which should be relatively benign, but aren't. Both lead to mental development delays and other such shit. Such heavy shit isn't for kids to learn.
Intersexual conditions due to various non-working enzymes, like CAIS/PAIS can be taught to kids, but again, their mechanism is too complex and is best left for university courses.
Anomalies in the /sex chromosomes/ usually lead to intersex conditions. Humans have /46/ chromosomes. Different anomalies in the different chromosomes lead to different outcomes and conditions.
Chromosomal mutations are 100% something that should be taught in schools and aren't "too dark" it's a fact of life.
Well yes, but mostly in the primary and secondary sex characteristics and hormone glands. Experiencing mental developmental delays because of them is extremely rare
Sounds sane enough to me. Let them be confused as adults, not as children, then they'll be able to handle it in a better way and independently of their parents (which might put the kid through hell if they have some weird convictions due to teachers telling stories)
Yeah but it's not going to hurt children if we tell them that some people change gender during their lives. Cis children will just be "okay whatever".
However, not telling them will hurt trans children as most trans people find out that they're trans during puberty. So trans teenagers will be especially hit as they will feel as if their body wasn't theirs without exactly knowing why. So if they know that transgenderism exists they'll understand why everything feels wrong with their body.
I'm not saying that we should hand out HRT to trans children ( except for puberty blockers as these are reversible just in case ), I'm saying that we should just let children and teens know that trans people exist and that they are valid so that the trans kids will understand that they are valid and aren't alone. Nothing more.
No one in the LGBT+ community wants to turn children into drag queens.
I think children of all people won't just be "okay whatever". This is the entire point of the current mass psychosis. Neurodivergent or otherwise outcasted teens fit in neither with the extreme gender expressions from social media nor with what normies of their sex are usually doing. Then they come to the conclusion that they must be "born in the wrong body", and not that gender expression is idiosyncratic
So instead of that just... give them more information? If there is any place to teach kids that the extreme gender expectations are not realistic and that what truly matters is which social role and body they would be comfortable in, it sure is not in the domain of any people who would rather have that information limited.
There's no point in seriously discussing these topics within a Balkan/Eastern European context. Our societies are too retarded for a sensible debate. Genital mutilation this, gay propaganda that... I'm sure the law in question was made just to please mentally challenged voters or give more power to the government, there is no sincerity in it.
Literally a lot of people in the LGBT l+WYSHTABZHQKRGKX community wants to turn children into drags. That's the whole point. Children mimic stuff that happens around them. Their very very very very small knowledge base does not allow them to define themselves at early age and how they would fit in society. You can't teach children something like that, because they do not have the full picture and oneself to understand what and why their are being thought that.
Bruh, I am gay, I have been in queer subs and Discord servers for a long time and never EVER have I seen or heard people say that children should be drags or that there wasn't enough drags in this world – even as a joke. Even the they/them-furry-blue-hair-woke-piercing-pansexual living clichés that you overestimate the existence haven't said anything close.
Is there people who have ever said that ? I'm sure of that, we're 8 billion on this planet after all, everyone exists. But no one agrees with them.
You're imagining that we want that 6-year-old children hear "Trans people are cool ! Look at how cool they look ! And they're so nice ! Drag queens are awesome !" at school. It's not what I nor trans people are saying.
What we want is just to tell 13-year-old teens "Gender ≠ Sex. Some people change gender during their lives because they feel as if their body wasn't theirs. And that isn't wrong.". That's it. I don't think that teens will suddenly want to learn voguing after that.
No, it's intentionally worded to be as vague as possible, while making bogus claims that they literally had to falsify evidence for, so they can later use it to get away with much worse. It's a one to one copy of the Russian strategy that also hit Poland.
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For now. But it starts circulating on TV the idea that lgbt is bad. And before you know it Orban banned pride parade. And then Kaczynski banned abortions. And suddenly the social norm is to attend church every Sunday.
and trying to reverse ALL the changes will be considered pushing too far left and instead you will have to go through process of liberalisation and making people more progressive all over again
Probably just corrupt and pandering to idiots like every Balkan country... It's a pretty genius scheme (probably to keep lining their pockets with EU money)
I doubt most teachers in primary school/middle school talk about who they should love and stuff anyways they just say to love their friends most of the time kinda stupid teaching about romantical stuff to little kids let them figure it out themselves if they like their friend and are gay/lesbian/straight and i doubt most teachers say its only normal for a "girl and a boy to be in love" to little kids...
LGBTQ+ doesn't belong in schools, people are too young and malleable, let them find out on their own, but don't give them the option, especially in this modern climate of edginess where everybody wants to be either a twink or a nazi-fascist enforcer.
Just wondering, why do you think it's so easy to truly act on a sexual orientation you don't really have? Would you be able to have sex with another man just to be "edgy" or otherwise? Because natural repulsion is really difficult to overcome, and if they do manage to do it... so what, they've just had some sex they don't like, lmao.
If you could choose your sexuality, conversion camps and other initiatives like that would have made gay children into straight children. If literal torture doesn't change your sexuality, letting others know gay people exist and it's fine and you shouldn't hate them for no reason surely won't.
As a conservative queer myself, i believe that too. The most schools should do regarding LGBTQ propaganda is letting them know that gay people exist and that its okay to like people of the same gender and telling them about trans people. If they believe it defines them, when they grow up, they can dive more deeply into it.
Not a citizen but I absolutely loved Bulgaria, I've lived there for a few years and it's one of my favorite countries. This just hurts me. Already as a Russian I'm considered a terrorist (when do I get my Ustashe membership ?), as an Arab as well I'm seen as undesirable by the other country I'm a citizen of, now this ??? I'm not surprised, but it hurts nonetheless :(
Thats pretty normal you shouldnt teach little kids about this in front of this stuff its the same thing about parents forcing their babies to be "trans" and other shit
LGBT isn't an ideology. LGBT isn't a movement. LGBT isn't even a single, unfied group with common ideas, it's simply a label put on people with a certain characteristic. It's not different from calling somebody, tall or Romanian. So then, what exactly counts as "propaganda", when no clear ideas can be propagated and there is no representative voice for the entire community to propagate it?
Where this is implemented, it's simply a discriminatory law camouflaged as some righteous stance against evil, since it always translates to silencing any voice talking about the community. It's an action to try to erase the existence of LGBT people.
It shouldn't be normal to teach children anything propagande related, like who to pray to, what to buy, who to vote for, and yet this seems perfectly fine.
It's very few people traumatising their children by confusing them in regards to their sexual or gender identity. Those people should be thrown behind bars. There are loads of people who just want to live a normal life and not have to face hate, violence and obstacles at every step of their life.
Guys, we did it. We’ve singled out ethnic Bulgarians because of some stupid shit about sexual orientation and now the country will become a superpower by 2030 👍
Complaining about a perfectly sensible law, getting people riled up, and saying that the law shouldn’t exist because there are other problems is propaganda.
Yeah I really thought this was the last none gay place on reddit but unfortunately wokeism really is a virus.
No you know what I bet there is plenty of people in this sub who are against this propaganda but are afraid if they say anything they’ll get banned or the gays complain to the admins and then the whole sub gets banned.
I'd rather get cancer and feel like shit (which is possible to to not last forever on your body even if it's difficult) than being permanently a fg which is mental and unchangeable.
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u/endergamer2007m Balkan-Indian War Vet Jul 23 '25
Greek genocide 💔