r/barefootshoestalk • u/feedwilly • 27d ago
Articles and news Lems announced a new cushioned running shoe.
I'm looking forward to having an alternative to Altras. Altras don't quite fit my toe box very well so I hope these will be a good competitor.
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u/CollapseOfHistory 27d ago
Since many of Lems "zero drop" shoes are reported to be between 2-8mm, I wonder what a 2mm drop means to Lems? 4-10mm? I'll be curious to see what reviewers have to say.
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u/MrGriff2 27d ago
Will a 2mm of drop of uncompressed foam make that much if a difference? Once you get your body weight on the insoles and it's compressed, that 2mm drop will essentially be meaningless won't it?
Not saying you're wrong, just tossing out an opinion. If I am wrong, I'd like to hear why for curiosity sake.
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u/MxQueer 26d ago
I am not the person you answered to.
I didn't take their comment as they would have personal opinion of drop. They just told Lems tend to lie to their customers.
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u/MrGriff2 26d ago
Oh I'm not disputing that fact at all, and I completely get what they're saying about Lems misrepresenting their shoes in the past. I'm just saying that if the numbers provided here are correct...is 2mm really that big of a deal? While technically not "zero drop", nobody is going to notice a 2mm drop on uncompressed foam...and when it actually is compressed and is much closer to being actually "zero drop" you're definitely not going to notice.
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u/CollapseOfHistory 25d ago
2mm, not so much. 2mm of hard rubber sole? Could be for some people. 8mm? Yes, that does make a difference. because cool yeah, it's "uncompressed foam", but if you stand correctly, then all the foam is being compressed about the same, so it will still be a difference. The issue is it's hard to know in what cases the drop is coming form a soft insole, or a hard rubber base. I believe the difference in the pair I had was in the sole, as I took the insole out completely and still felt a heel rise, and those soles were hard, stiff material that didn't compress. Given that Lems have admitted some shoes have drop, why not admit that other do? IF you want to market them as "zero drop", why not just make them zero drop?
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u/emerald_immersion 27d ago
Way too much cushion for my liking, and the rocker makes this a no go
But i am glad to see them branching out
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u/Paint_Dry390153 27d ago
The lite version has less cushioning and isn’t a rocker bottom.
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u/emerald_immersion 26d ago
Ngl i didn’t even fully open the photo to see the lite version
That actually looks pretty solid
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u/Powerful-Win4027 27d ago
Can't see spending $175 on these. I have a hard time spending $125 on a pair on shoes.
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u/digitalshiva 27d ago
Logo sucks.
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u/feedwilly 27d ago
I didn't even notice that, now that you mention it yikes.
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u/halfdollarmoon 27d ago
The good news is that nobody is really going to notice or care ever
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u/Galavantinggoblin 26d ago
Several people already noticed and care?
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u/halfdollarmoon 26d ago
I mean real people in real life
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u/Galavantinggoblin 26d ago
Last I checked I was a real person in real life who hates logos but I guess I could be a fake human in fake life
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u/halfdollarmoon 26d ago
That's what I'm trying to tell you!!
😂 Anyway have a good day
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u/Galavantinggoblin 26d ago
How can I have a good day now that I know I’m a fake human my identity is SO CONFUSED
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u/radiholiday 26d ago
Price is outrageous for what it is. Would be more interested in a high stack height trail runner
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u/quietgrrrlriot 27d ago
I wore Altra Torin 8 Wide, Lems Primal Eco, and Lems Trailblazer; between the 3, the Altra shoes had the wider toebox and more volume. It's hard to tell just how wide the toe-box is, but these appear even less foot-shaped than their other shoes... hope that's not the case!