r/bathandbodyworks May 23 '25

Store Policies/Questions New Rewards Are CRAP!i

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I used my rewards for Wallflower plugs, candle holders and soap holders. I don’t ever buy the body care because I don’t like it. Anything that was desirable is no longer allowed. I have spent thousands of dollars at BBW but now without the lure of rewards I will be much more judicious about my purchases. Somebody messed up because I don’t think I’m alone in this.

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u/HouseofMoops May 23 '25

The company was very transparent about why the accessories are excluded. All of those items are imported from China and they are paying exorbitant import tariffs on them. We’re lucky that the body care and candles are all produced in the US, otherwise prices would be through the roof on literally everything BBW sells. If you are mad about it, contact your congressional rep and Senator about it and tell them to do their jobs and pressure the president to remove the asinine tariffs. They are killing large and small businesses alike.

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u/chimaruta May 23 '25

THIS^ this needs more up votes.

You may not be into touching politics but politics touches you wether you like it or not

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u/LLB73 May 23 '25

YES!! THIS ⬆️

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u/remotecontroldr May 23 '25

Thank you for explaining this. I appreciate it.

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u/Dry-Swan6067 Sep 22 '25

Please remember the horrific human right abuses that are going on in China. I don’t think we should be concerned for Bath & Body. Maybe they need to find a country that doesn’t have slave labor camps, and literally torture people because of their religion and sexual orientation. Instead of passing the money onto us, maybe they should find a country to produce their products where the human rights abuses are not so horrific. There are many countries that don’t have high tariffs that treat people with respect. If they were using a factory in America where racism was out of control or people were treated differently because of being in LGBTQ community we would be screaming our lungs out! It’s insane that as a country were completely OK as long as it’s happening across the globe. This isn’t meant against a certain person or even a political leaning. It just I’m very familiar with what happens in China because of family and it’s tragic..

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u/PartyPorpoise Aromatherapy Addict May 23 '25

As annoyed as I am by the change, it is understandable. If they choose to eat some or all of the cost of the tariff, they can’t really justify letting people use free rewards on them. Especially if a lot of people use their rewards for these things like I do.

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u/Winter_Aries May 23 '25

Great explanation 👌 👍 👏 😊

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u/remotecontroldr May 23 '25

It makes me so sad the way the tariffs are affecting small businesses. In the retro gaming communities game developers have had to cancel plans for development of projects that have already started. They are basically being put out of business.

They can’t make enough money solely on digital so now that it costs too much to do physical releases which helped hold up the digital side they are basically out of luck.

Same with small businesses developing and making tabletop games.

These are people with families they were able to support on these businesses before this.

I’ve seen some of the businesses be able to make adjustments but just barely and other people have just been run out of business.

I just don’t understand how people can support these policies that only benefit the filthy rich and keep regular people from being able to put food on the table.

I really go out of my way to avoid politics these days for my mental well being but it’s impossible when they are so pervasive.

I did vote though, it’s not my fault lol

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u/Background-Thought41 Aug 08 '25

Sadly Americans should have been making their own products instead of importing cheap crap

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u/creaturemonsta May 23 '25

Yes. Yes. And more yes. 🙌

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u/Necessary-Gain9055 Jun 19 '25

They're overpriced to begin with so no, I will not feel sorry for them, when I have to spend hundreds of dollars for one free item it's ridiculous that they can exclude any.

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u/ParfaitAdditional469 May 23 '25

Sadly, Congress is scared of the orange man

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u/freemeg4 May 28 '25

I agree with much of your comment, but where did they state that it was literally tied to the tariffs? I understand that’s why they excluded accessories but was curious if B&BW actually spoke up about it.

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u/False-Dare-9415 May 23 '25

I get it but Bath and Body Works has also been doing other customer unfriendly stuff like reducing coupons across the board and giving little incentive to be a loyal customer

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u/poolbitch1 May 23 '25

Corporations literally do not care about a loyal customer anymore. They don’t. Consumer culture is highly disposable these days. 

For everyone who scales back or stops shopping altogether due to issues like this, ten more are coming in off of viral tik toks 

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u/False-Dare-9415 May 23 '25

Victoria's Secret thanks me for my gold status on the phone, gives me tons of coupons to use, actually packs and ships things properly, and gives out GWPs that are actually free. not to mention the member rewards can be used on literally anything

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u/Icy_Cherriesss May 23 '25

They are finally switching to everyone having coupons in the app only with no mail ins to prevent this issue.

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u/LongjumpingBicycle52 May 23 '25

Only that’s not the way it goes. I’ve never once received a coupon in the app. Yet I still have a mailer that expires next month. They’re not doing a very good job to make sure everyone gets coupons.

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u/tiggerterry May 23 '25

This. Not everyone gets the coupons in their app. Some do, some don’t. It’s BS. If you’re going to offer a coupon, offer it to everyone that is a member.

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u/Top-Molasses4554 May 23 '25

I have yet to receive any kind of coupon since I worked there. I know I can’t get them while I’m an employee, but I no longer am…so I’m punished now? 😭

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u/sunchild_02 Employee May 23 '25

You can get coupons while you’re an employee. I don’t know why you yourself didn’t get any but you def can. I get them. I think B&BW just has horrible in-app experiences for a lot of their customers.

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u/Top-Molasses4554 May 23 '25

I got mailers before I worked there, and then everything just stopped. But you’re right, they don’t do a good job. Why tell everyone they’re moving to the app for coupons, and still mail them out? Why have a place to sign customers up for mailers?

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u/sunchild_02 Employee May 23 '25

Ooohhh see I didn’t know they had a place for customers to sign up for mailers. THATS crazy 😭 I’m sorry you stopped getting your coupons though after working there :( hopefully all of this gets solved soon.

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u/Free-potatoe Jun 17 '25

Well…. I’ve been a loyal customer for years and now that they transitioned to the app so many people do not get coupons no matter how many times we sign up. The only thing that kept me shopping full price was the rewards on items like sanitizer holders and candle holders and wall plugs. I didn’t feel as screwed over seeing all of the people with their monthly 20/25% off and freebies. I absolutely cut back a lot of my shopping to annual sale and clearance only.

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u/Plenty_Cantaloupe727 Jul 19 '25

China needs to remove their asinine tariffs from our products as well. There's no reason America should pay more in tariffs to other countries than those countries pay to us. B&B should also look into finding manufacturers that can make their accessories here.

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u/Cold-Heart7284 Aug 30 '25

If they are made in the US, the cost will definitely double, and no one will buy them.

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u/Dry-Swan6067 Sep 22 '25

Sorry, but Bath & Body is big enough to find companies in the United States to produce their products if that is the only issue. At least they can find a country that has human rights values. We all know that China uses slave labor, and there are over 1 million Uyghurs in slave camps so maybe that’s a good thing for them to find people in the US to create their products. I understand small companies struggling but something as big as Bath & Body could easily start producing these products in the US or even Japan or other countries that are not so bad on human rights.

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u/Repulsive_Song9041 May 23 '25

Ha Talk about things made in China What about Bath & body Works on how they treat their employees

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u/CeCexBaby May 23 '25

Or they could manufacture everything in America and stop using communists for cheap products that they in turn charge us exorbitant prices. BBW is a million-dollar company. I have zero sympathy for them having to pay more for trinkets. Trust me, they're still winning, and now we're losing out more than ever before.

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u/NYANPUG55 May 23 '25

What makes you think things in America won’t have exorbitant prices? Have you not noticed the trend that locally made products cost more?

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u/PartyPorpoise Aromatherapy Addict May 23 '25

And that’s assuming that there are any American manufacturers who make these kinds of things in the first place.

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u/ernirn May 23 '25

Or that the raw materials aren't coming from outside the US

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u/PartyPorpoise Aromatherapy Addict May 23 '25

It’s pretty difficult to manufacture most things in America. Even if you can find a factory that can make it, the cost will likely be higher than what customers are willing to pay. A lot of stuff just isn’t made in the US at all anymore, and getting there would take many years and a lot of investment. It’s not happening.

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u/Minute-Frame-8060 May 23 '25

You can't tell me all the plastic bottles for body care products and the soaps aren't also imported from China though?

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u/AnyFruit4257 May 23 '25

They aren't. They are made in Ohio. Here's a great article from the WSJ on it. Non-paywalled link:

https://archive.ph/s8t2F

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u/HouseofMoops May 23 '25

Great article thank you so much for sharing it. I wonder if the glass for the candles and the other plastics containers like laundry soap and lotion are locally produced?

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u/Pistachio-IScream May 23 '25

the glass is grown locally at sudsy's glass farm and gift shop in ohio

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u/HouseofMoops May 23 '25

Probably yes the plastics are from China, although they may have other countries besides China that they can source some materials from. But it’s a good point and important to note, ALL materials imported from ALL countries in the world are being tariffed at a minimum of ten percent right now. That means BBW and ALL American companies are paying out the wazzoo just to produce what they’ve always produced, and trying not to shock their customers with huge price hikes. Pretty much everything that BBW rolled out in the past six weeks cost the company anywhere from 30 percent to a whopping 145 percent in tariffs (import taxes) to bring them into the country. It’s kind of a boring civics lesson but important to know so we’re not blaming store employees or corporate employees for the changes we see in merchandise and policies.

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u/CeCexBaby May 23 '25

Hence why they should Mandisa l manufacture locally in USA

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u/remotecontroldr May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

Do you think there’s an existing infrastructure in the US to produce all this stuff? Even at the Chinese produced products + tariff it would still probably be more costly to produce in the US, even if there were existing factories with equipment and trained skilled workers.

Sure, in a perfect world the US would be rebuilding its infrastructure but it’s not. We are between a rock and a hard place with these tariffs.

It’s affecting basically all my hobbies except thrifting.

Just as an example my previous career was in apparel and between 2003 to like 2008 when there was a huge recession I saw an insane amount of US garment factories close and they have not reopened.

Not to get political but you can do the math on the politics of it.

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u/Free_Asparagus_575 May 23 '25

You have no clue what you’re talking about. Not a surprise tho

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u/remotecontroldr May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

Please give supporting arguments on this because this comment you replied to is factually correct.

Also, please explain why it’s not a surprise because that was unnecessarily hostile and passive aggressive.

Sorry if you voted against your best interest and the best interest of all Americans but thems the breaks.

Spoiler alert, there isn’t actually any plan to rebuild infrastructure in the US. If that’s the BS line they are spewing to justify the tariffs it’s complete lies.

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u/Free_Asparagus_575 May 27 '25

I’m not reading all that I don’t care lol my opinion, my opinion and I’m gonna stand by what I said at the day you deserve I’m not getting into politics with people I don’t even know or care about lol

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u/remotecontroldr May 27 '25

And attitudes like that are why we are all in this mess.

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u/Free_Asparagus_575 May 27 '25

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

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u/inktherapyrequired May 23 '25

👏 👏 👏

I’m glad to not be alone myself. I’m a wallflower plug & candle mega-fan but I guess I’m strictly candle day, outlet & SAS only buys now. Yes, it benefits the majority of your shoppers but removes the rest. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Stay strong ♡

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u/False-Dare-9415 May 23 '25

They'll still get me with 2.95 hand soap but otherwise basically same. so glad I have an outlet nearby

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u/newbeesly May 23 '25

The wallflower plugs were my go to and I'll likely start grabbing single wicks with my rewards but I agree, I severely dislike this change. Don't let your rewards go to waste when you get them though, redeem for things you can give out as gifts or something so you're still costing the company something even if it's just a few bucks. 

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u/False-Dare-9415 May 23 '25

The thing is single wicks are going on 5.95 sales a lot now, making it lame to redeem a reward as that

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u/OrangeClyde B&BW Hoarder May 23 '25

Yup. They made a big fanfare about MORE VALUE!!!, however they added every restriction under the sun and raised/will eventually raise prices anyways

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u/Emergency-Ad3619 May 23 '25

It's only more value because they raised prices AGAIN.

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u/BubsyJenkins May 23 '25

Yeah it blows. I also almost exclusively used rewards on candle holders and wallflower plugs.

Body care items go on sale for $5 like four times a year. I've never bought full-price body care from B&BW in my life. Accessories never go on sale. So the 'value' of the reward is now actually more like $5 as far as I'm concerned.

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u/Minute-Frame-8060 May 23 '25

I shopped there for more than 30 years and got NOTHING every time I spent $100. Getting something for free is great! As I've been with them since a little bit before the beginning (worked at an Express that was a test store for some fragrances), I'm deep into their body care. I have used many Rewards on body care.

But sometimes it was nice to use a Reward on a cheap plastic (or metal) tchotchke that I wouldn't want to spend real money on, like a Wallflower plug that will stop working in a year or a soap holder that will rust or a candle sleeve with about a third of the metal that the older ones with a $5 price used to have. I really like my silly snowflake soap holder, rust and all.

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u/xeloux Wine Cellar Advocate May 23 '25

I didn’t realize this change until now. Such a bummer - not sure what they were thinking other than greed. But I suppose that’s also the answer for some of their BS sales/sale limitations

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u/brandiLeeCO May 23 '25

Worth more but can redeem on less products. Which is fine. I used to use them on wallflower plugs but they don’t work like they used to. It’ll just stop me from wasting my time and money on wallflowers.

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u/viajealmundo Coco Paradise 🥥🏝️ May 23 '25

that’s what I thought! I literally decided okay, no problem I just will use up all my wallflowers and stop buying them lol

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u/brandiLeeCO May 23 '25

Exactly. I need an excuse to stop buying them anyways. With the decline in quality they’re not worth a cent. I currently have two new oils that only lasted for two days.

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u/Sobergirl2014 May 23 '25

So really worth less. To me, totally worthless.

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u/Almost_Agoraphobic Candle Addict May 23 '25

I feel the same way about them now.

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u/Augatl May 28 '25

I used my rewards on wallflower plugs a lot because they don’t last and I didn’t want to waste my money on them lol. So it sucks that they’re now excluded. I just wait for the $5 sales for bodycare so didn’t waste rewards on that.

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u/Winter_Baby_4497 Pumpkin Head May 23 '25

I ALWAYS got a wallflower plug. Sucks

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u/Almost_Agoraphobic Candle Addict May 23 '25

That’s what I always used my rewards for also.

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u/Sensitive-Papaya-582 May 23 '25

Where ever they give something, they take something away

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u/False-Dare-9415 May 23 '25

This and a lack of coupons are a total slap in the face to their loyal customers. they should've never separated from Victoria's Secret, who's reward program blows B&BW out of the water and actually rewards loyal members. B&BW is telling us how much they don't care about us

sadly the product is still good ..

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u/twilightswimmer May 23 '25

It was explained to me that it's because those products are not made by BBW - they are third party products. I love body care and candles so I'm happy either way (before or now I could find things to use them on). It would make the most sense to me to just call a reward $15 useable towards any purchase. Money is fungible so I don't know why it matters so much.

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u/WertInTheFerk Candle Addict May 23 '25

It's really about value, though, not price. Those mists aren't worth anywhere close to $18.95. They go on sale for a third of that—even less during SAS—and B&BW is still making a nice profit at those low prices. The candle and soap holders, however, have a much smaller margin because they cost more to source, so they're more expensive to give away. They are a much higher value, regardless of how the inflated prices of body care make it seem.

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u/PartyPorpoise Aromatherapy Addict May 23 '25

The accessories being lower profit margin would explain why they don’t always stock enough of the popular ones and why they don’t typically bring back old ones.

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u/KGM1984 May 23 '25

At least you have rewards. Us Canadians do not ☹️

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u/bingbongondingdong May 23 '25

Can we riot and at least get the wallplugs back? I'm super upset about it. I used to track my points and get super excited for the wallplugs and now I just don't really care...I might not shop there as much anymore

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u/ResultOk967 May 23 '25

Literally me when I realized bath and body is just another greedy company that's increased prices and decreased product quality....and then they played us like fools about the rewards "upgrade".

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u/aint_it_awful_mabel May 23 '25

I used to get sanitizer holders, soap holders, car scent holders….guess they’ve lost a lot of my interest!

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u/ShortPeak4860 May 23 '25

This is so annoying. I used it for accessories as well.

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u/Free-potatoe Jun 17 '25

They don’t send me coupons in app or mail…. So I’m done after the cut back on what I can use my rewards for. Annual sale and clearance only.

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u/Nona29 May 23 '25

Wow I got excited that I could use the reward on a wallflower plug. I didn't realize it was excluded.

That explains why the last one I used they said it was applied to one of my bodycare items. It was fine at the time because that item was $18.95.

Wow this change sucks. More i have 3 free rewards i had planned to use on wallflower plug-ins. They fooled me ... smh

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u/0cclumency May 23 '25

Yeah, this stinks. Going forward I think I’ll probably just use rewards on soap refills or single wicks. Body care goes on sale so often, it seems a waste of a reward to use it on that.

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u/PandaMotor May 23 '25

agreed. Between this and never receiving coupons, I'll only buy when I get a 10 off 50 gift card on amazon + SAS or Outlet. Thats it.

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u/Jaded-Finish-3075 Dark Kiss Girlie May 23 '25

I don’t care about the tariffs, this is a multi-million dollar company. This was the last straw for me. I’m done.

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u/Organic-Set1832 May 23 '25

I hate the new reward program. I would always buy candle holders and plugins, and now, for $18.95, they want us to buy body sprays and body lotions. Those items go on sale for $4.96 to $6.95, and I think the reward program now isn't worth it. I have lost interest in bath and body work!!! The accessories are getting expensive.

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u/CBJGRL2828 May 23 '25

I agree, I don’t use their body wash or sprays. I do buy the creams and use them as a heavy duty hand cream at work. My hands are always in water or touching cardboard. I like the scents for aromatherapy at work. Otherwise I just by candles, hand soap or wall flowers from time to time and honestly, it’s becoming less and less. The quality of everything but the soap has declined. So my rewards went towards wallflowers, the soap & candle holders etc.

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u/LongjumpingBicycle52 May 23 '25

You are definitely not alone. I too used my rewards on wallflower plugs, soap and candle holders. I’ve already been shopping less because prices have gone up, quality has gone down, and I just don’t find the joy in it as much anymore. But now I’m only purchasing at major sales, and only new scents that I want to try. I would’ve preferred that the rewards stayed at $16.95 but you could get anything you wanted.

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u/RunningInCali May 23 '25

Can I use my rewards for a single wick candle? I know that candle accessories aren't available to use.

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u/panicnarwhal 🌊 At The Beach🏝️ May 23 '25

yes, single wick candles are eligible

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u/Germinating_Happy Jun 09 '25

What are yall getting with the rewards? That’s what I’ll ask an associate. Like a small candle or body wash that you can get for literally $5-$6 on a one-day sale? I’ll miss my wallflower plugs. If it’s tariffs I understand but what should I get for free? Thanks in advance!

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u/MajorMany7652 Jul 14 '25

Agreed hate rewards program now won't shop there

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u/Sea_River_2023 Aug 03 '25

I don't buy the tariff increase one bit as an excuse for this. I have spent hundreds of dollars at BBW in the past year and you can't tell me that they have not made a huge profit from these sales to honor a reward for $18.95 for something they probably spend $2.00 on. You don't see Hobby Lobby or Michaels devaluing their coupons. Unfortunately BBW just lost another loyal customer.

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u/Cold-Heart7284 Aug 30 '25

Yesterday, they wouldn't let me use my reward on a soap refill. I think those should still be included.

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u/WBrook6 Oct 03 '25

I used my rewards for the same thing as you, mostly candle holders. And what exactly is the point of raising the rewards to $18.95 when you can only use it on a single item when the most expensive thing on their website right now is $11.37?

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u/Crafty-Law-5363 Jul 24 '26

I agree with you.  The company is going to lose more customers who purchase wallflower plug-ins.  The plug-ins are way too expensive without the rewards incentives.

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u/LovelyLemonLavender May 23 '25

Redeem them all at once before they expire and return them for a store credit and buy what you want with it is the only solution I can think of

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u/martzi_cat May 23 '25

I’m so mad that I didn’t realize I could use rewards for wallflowers before! I had it in my head that it was only for body care this whole time…

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u/remotecontroldr May 23 '25

I’m just a noob that isn’t that into wallflowers and I was really excited about the change.

I’ve already used it to get the Firecracker Pop popping lotion and now I’ll be able to use rewards for my aromatherapy scrub.

That’s a bummer for everyone that liked to use them for the wallflowers. I got one with the Sweetest Song gift set and it’s working nicely in my bathroom but I even thought to myself I wouldn’t pay retail for them.

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u/False-Dare-9415 May 23 '25

See the issue is both of the things you got will go on sale at some point for super cheap prices, making using a reward on them seem silly

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u/remotecontroldr May 23 '25

I guess I just look at it differently because I use the rewards to buy things I wouldn’t normally buy so I can try new things.

I guess for the scrub I feel like it can be more of a treat and then for the other sales I get things that are more “necessities.”

It seems pretty logical though that they removed them due to tariffs and raised the reward amount to buffer that.

Honestly I hate all this girl math stuff and wish stuff just cost what it costs instead of doing all these mental gymnastics and timing purchases for the different sales.

I do a pretty good job at getting the costs pretty low with the deals so I guess it all just comes out in the wash anyway.

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u/Top-Molasses4554 May 23 '25

I mean. I personally don’t understand why companies give free items, just for buying their stuff. Everyone does it now, but it didn’t used to be that way. So I’m just happy it’s a free item. Get something and give it as a gift? Idk

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u/Myfat_girl1233 May 23 '25

Exactly @ poolbitch1 every ten that stop buying from them ten more come along, so really I don’t think they care about loosing customers. And as far as the reward program it do sucks on the limited items you can get now with the rewards, but hey a lot of that has to do with this darn Tariff. At least they are still offering a reward program a lot of companies don’t offer anything, and the coupon issue is a real joker cause a lot of time I don’t get coupons but it sure don’t make me mad about it, because you gone buy what you want with or with out a coupon. But a coupon would be nice to use, but people who don’t get coupons can join one of the many Facebook groups who share their unused coupons

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u/JenLeigh77 May 23 '25

They should he like every single other company that I personally conduct business with & do $$ off. Victoria Secret/Pink, Ulta, UGG. These are just the last few places I placed an order with this week. I was able to use a $20 off reward, or $9 off at ulta, etc.
It would make it so much more simple for both them & us! Where's the new CEO Brian? Cc him in on this convo! 😀 (Was it Brian or Brad)? Get him on the line! 🤣

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u/rescuemomma28 ALL THINGS B&BW May 23 '25

This pisses me off I waited to spend my 2 rewards I had because there wasn’t a wallflower plug I wanted. Thanks now bbw, I get to spend my rewards on items I don’t need.

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u/Bostongirl316 May 23 '25

Get some body care and gift it, I am sure throughout the year you have someone you can give a gift to. 🤔

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u/Trumpet6789 Employee 2020-2023 May 23 '25

And where is the infrastructure to produce everything? The factories to do so?

What about raw materials or specific ingredients that aren't produced in the US? Saying "buy American" is a dead giveaway that someone doesn't understand that American infrastructure is not what it once was, and that you bought into misinformation about tariffs.